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milorafferty

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Valentino's UFO on Urethane
« on: September 26, 2016, 11:10:33 AM »
Has anyone tried Valentino's UFO on urethane?


I have developed a real problem with spare shooting and don't want to go to back to plastic. I currently use the Arctic Sniper and due to my short comings as a bowler, I just can't come to terms with putting less hand in the ball for spares consistently.



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Re: Valentino's UFO on Urethane
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2016, 11:30:47 AM »
I use UFO to refresh the polished urethane cover on my Mix. It seems to give a slight bit more push to the ball.
 
You didn't seem to have problems with spare shooting using your Sniper the last time I saw you bowl. If the Sniper is moving, you must have burned a decent track in it.
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Re: Valentino's UFO on Urethane
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2016, 11:47:01 AM »
Quote from: Steven on September 26, 2016, 11:30:47 AM
I use UFO to refresh the polished urethane cover on my Mix. It seems to give a slight bit more push to the ball.
 
You didn't seem to have problems with spare shooting using your Sniper the last time I saw you bowl. If the Sniper is moving, you must have burned a decent track in it.

That was the original Sniper. It was plastic, which comes with it's own problems of cracking. I'm using the Arctic now and it's a urethane pearl. I did have a problem with the track, but the pro shop did a total resurface, which did help, for maybe a week.

When I first got the Arctic, it wasn't that big of a problem. But lately, I'm having real issues. THS, Sport, Nationals etc, I've been hooking away from left and right side spares to the point that it's totally in my head.

A perfect example is this year at the Open in Reno. Team event I was 180, 184, 197. Which made me a few dollars in brackets and actually led our pair in scoring. BUT, the 180 was with 6 strikes, the 184 was with 7 strikes and the 197 was with an open 9th and 10th frame because of poor spare shooting. No splits or washouts, just missing 10's, and a couple of 8/9 pins.

I've lost all confidence in being all to make the ball hold the line.
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Re: Valentino's UFO on Urethane
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2016, 12:01:39 PM »
It won't hurt to try UFO. I tried it the first time after noticing my Mix starting to grab after a slight track had set in. I hit it on the spinner with two applications, and that fixed the problem. I've continued to apply UFO every month or so.
 
Maybe the Urethane on the Arctic is more aggressive than the Mix. I really don't know, but the UFO can't hurt.
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Re: Valentino's UFO on Urethane
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2016, 12:10:38 PM »
Just ordered some and will give it a shot.
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Re: Valentino's UFO on Urethane
« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2016, 01:27:08 PM »
UFO works on resin covers to reduce hook, reduce backend by clogging the pores to reduce/prevent oil absorption (one of the ways that makes resin hook). It is also a polish that shines the ball.

Since urethane does not hook by oil absorption, this factor should not affect urethanes. It will only polish them to add length. Urethanes, as far as I have learned, hook less when polished and go longer before hooking.

So, in theory, only the polish change is in effect for using UFO on urethanes. So, for that matter, yo can use any polish on urethanes with the same effect.
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Re: Valentino's UFO on Urethane
« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2016, 01:29:14 PM »
Maybe I need to try this stuff on my Maxim. It can hook 15 boards off of the 10 pin if I am not careful... i threw directly at the 10 pin on a 3,6,10 spare knowing it would hook last night and it hooked far enough to chop the 3 off dead on
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Re: Valentino's UFO on Urethane
« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2016, 01:34:27 PM »
Quote from: charlest on September 26, 2016, 01:27:08 PM
UFO works on resin covers to reduce hook, reduce backend by clogging the pores to reduce/prevent oil absorption (one of the ways that makes resin hook). It is also a polish that shines the ball.

Since urethane does not hook by oil absorption, this factor should not affect urethanes. It will only polish them to add length. Urethanes, as far as I have learned, hook less when polished and go longer before hooking.

So, in theory, only the polish change is in effect for using UFO on urethanes. So, for that matter, yo can use any polish on urethanes with the same effect.

That was what I originally thought too. But in real life, it didn't work that way, at least on my Arctic Sniper. As soon as it hits the dry, it will make a left hand turn.

So I need to figure out a solution. Well, other than actual practice of course. :-)
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Re: Valentino's UFO on Urethane
« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2016, 01:44:21 PM »
I can only relay what I've experienced with the Mix. The UFO does seem to add a little bit of push. The ball hardly wrinkled from the beginning, so the difference isn't huge by any stretch. I didn't try regular polish before to compare against, so I don't know what if any difference there might be.
 
But I'm perplexed by how much reaction to friction Milo is seeing with his Arctic. From what I understand about it's hook potential, that shouldn't be happening on most conditions we see.
 
Unless he's developed some manly-man revs I didn't foresee.  :)
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Re: Valentino's UFO on Urethane
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2016, 02:19:35 PM »
Quote from: Steven on September 26, 2016, 01:44:21 PM
I can only relay what I've experienced with the Mix. The UFO does seem to add a little bit of push. The ball hardly wrinkled from the beginning, so the difference isn't huge by any stretch. I didn't try regular polish before to compare against, so I don't know what if any difference there might be.
 
But I'm perplexed by how much reaction to friction Milo is seeing with his Arctic. From what I understand about it's hook potential, that shouldn't be happening on most conditions we see.
 
Unless he's developed some manly-man revs I didn't foresee.  :)

My Rev's have increased but I think my tilt has changed as well. The combination of the two is probably why I have developed this problem.

I'm beginning to think the Arctic Sniper is part reactive(the pearl part), which gives it some movement.


I ordered some UFO and will report back once I get a chance to try it.
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Re: Valentino's UFO on Urethane
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2016, 02:51:04 PM »
My wife has the Arctic Sniper and it does have some movement in it.  It isn't a Mix, that is for sure.  It appears it is almost enough for a dry lane ball.
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