Author Topic: HAUS machine - anyone work on them? (Read 3348 times)

BT · « **on:** May 11, 2003, 05:12:40 PM »

I posted this under Coverstocks forum with no replies .... thought maybe someone would see it here sooner...

Had a ball plugged yesterday at my pro shop. After using the router and, scraper to cut the plugged holes down it was put into the HAUS machine. I was watching the ball move around and, noticed a definite repeating pattern. The pin tended to stay between 2 of the sanding disks.... Anyone have any experience with what may cause this? Shouldnt the ball have a VERY random pattern in order to hit all areas of the ball sufficiently?

CoachJim · « **Reply #1 on:** May 12, 2003, 08:19:47 AM »

I don't have direct experience, but the haus machine at the pro-shop I use had this same problem. There was something wrong with the piece that pivots the ball at the bottom of the machine. It had stopped spinning, making the ball turn in one direction. Check the pivot pin and see if it is turning.

BT · « **Reply #2 on:** May 12, 2003, 08:36:50 AM »

Jim,

Was wondering about that but, arent there 2 types of machines? I am not familiar with the machine so not sure. In looking under the machine I noticed a small motor on one of the links to one motor. I am assuming this is what changes the spinning action? The pivot pin you are talking about... is this the round (maybe 1- 1 1/2 inch dia.) pad at the very bottom of the ball? This wasnt even touching the ball as it was working. I asked about that and the younger kid in the shop thought that was just used when unloading the ball. (place for the ball to rest when sanding backs move away from the ball)

BT

mrteach3 · « **Reply #3 on:** May 12, 2003, 08:48:13 AM »

BT,

There are not two types of Haus machines, just one. The difference that you see in the two machines is a kit you could buy to stop the problem with the ball spinning in one place as you described. The kit would disengage one of the motors for not even a second in order to change the direction the ball is spinning. The kit works very well. This kit is now installed on all of the Haus machines. Since we got ours very soon after they came out, we had to buy the kit. From what you describe, that machine has the kit on it already. The other issue can stem from using older scotch brite pads. When the pads become old from use, then even the kit won't stop the ball from spinning in one direction.

And the little disk is there to rest the ball on when putting it in or taking it out. The person you talked to is correct on that one. It has nothing to do with changing the direction of the ball spinning.

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CoachJim · « **Reply #4 on:** May 12, 2003, 08:48:37 AM »

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Was wondering about that but, aren't there 2 types of machines? I am not familiar with the machine so not sure. In looking under the machine I noticed a small motor on one of the links to one motor. I am assuming this is what changes the spinning action? The pivot pin you are talking about... is this the round (maybe 1- 1 1/2 inch dia.) pad at the very bottom of the ball? This wasnt even touching the ball as it was working. I asked about that and the younger kid in the shop thought that was just used when unloading the ball. (place for the ball to rest when sanding backs move away from the ball)

BT

The other machine is made by Jay Hawk, I am not familiar with it, I have seen it, but never seen it in action to know how it works.

That disk at the bottom of the machine is the pivot pin, it is like you said a round disk with a pin that touches the bottom of the ball and rotates the ball in the opposite direction that the pads are rotating to make the pads come in contact with all parts of the ball. If the pin is broken off the disk, then you will have to replace the disk. Until you get the replacement, you will have to move the ball by hand other wise it will start sanding flat spots into the ball.

BT · « **Reply #5 on:** May 12, 2003, 09:21:02 AM »

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And the little disk is there to rest the ball on when putting it in or taking it out. The person you talked to is correct on that one. It has nothing to do with changing the direction of the ball spinning.

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That disk at the bottom of the machine is the pivot pin, it is like you said a round disk with a pin that touches the bottom of the ball and rotates the ball in the opposite direction that the pads are rotating to make the pads come in contact with all parts of the ball. If the pin is broken off the disk, then you will have to replace the disk. Until you get the replacement, you will have to move the ball by hand other wise it will start sanding flat spots into the ball.

Ok, 2 different answers here...

The "oscillator" as shown on the HAUS website is what I think you are talking about Teach. Yes, looks like the motor I saw on the machine.

Wondering now about that "pin"? I dont remember seing any pin in the center of that round disk at the bottom of the ball. Also was looking for some sort of drive motor on that and, there isnt anything as I remember. That was what I meant by two different models. Sounds like maybe an older one had a pin and the newer ones have an Oscillator motor like Teach is referring to?

CoachJim · « **Reply #6 on:** May 12, 2003, 09:32:03 AM »

That might well be, like I said I don't have first hand experienc with the machine other than telling you the problems my ball driller has experienced. I do remember seeing a motor on the bottom of his and the disc with a pin on one edge of it the spun the ball. Maybe there is an older version, my proshop guy has had a haus machine for the past 4 years.

BT · « **Reply #7 on:** May 12, 2003, 09:43:01 AM »

Jim,

I have a feeling you are right about an older version. I don't have any experience with these either but, when my ball was in there I wanted to make sure it was working properly and, it just didnt look right to me. I certainly dont need any eggs. I'll look at his machine again next time I'm in there and see if there's a pin on that disk. Although if there's no motor on that disk I suppose it's a mute point anyway.

THANKS for the help guys! Appreciated!

BT

Constantine · « **Reply #8 on:** May 12, 2003, 10:02:37 AM »

From my experience with the Haus, if you have keep it regularly maintained or it won't allow the ball to spin freely. The three motors need to have equal pressure on the ball or the ball won't rotate properly. I suspect that the machine in question needs to be broken down, cleaned and oiled like in the video that comes with the machine.
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mrteach3 · « **Reply #9 on:** May 12, 2003, 10:38:48 AM »

BT,

Cons. makes a good point. We take our machine apart every few months to clean and grease it up. Otherwise you get some interesting problems.

Also, the flat spot thing. Just an interesting point. One of the good things about the machine is that it will not allow the ball to get smaller than is allowed by ABC specs. We left a ball in there for a long time with the diamond cut wheels and then measured it. Eventually during this process it stopped spinning almost altogether. We took it out and measured it. Sure enough, it was the diameter allowed by ABC specs. Nice to not have to worry about it.
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TheDude · « **Reply #10 on:** May 12, 2003, 10:46:27 AM »

I was given the Catalogue for Ebonite's Capital proshop equipment and there was a version of the haus machine in there. My distributor was going throught the catalogue with me when i was purchasing my drill press and he showed me there version of the haus. it had a small wheel on the bottom he said to help the ball move more freely.

Also noted they have a big Vending machine for small bowlers supplies, like ez slide and grip powder.

it's a bit out of our budget but i can dream.
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