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Title: Heavy Oil Ball
Post by: AlonzoHarris on December 13, 2016, 09:00:18 PM
Heavy Oil ball suggestions? Need a new one. Last one was a Haywire, and it just never paired for me. Cover overpowered the core for my style too much. I'm wondering if I should try doing surface to a MH category ball.
Title: Re: Heavy Oil Ball
Post by: Medichal on December 13, 2016, 10:16:20 PM
dv8 grudge great ball for heavy oil hits very hard you won't be dissappointed
Title: Re: Heavy Oil Ball
Post by: vkowalski1970 on December 14, 2016, 05:46:40 AM
Hammer Scandal!
Title: Re: Heavy Oil Ball
Post by: tloy on December 14, 2016, 05:54:29 AM
NoRules or AlphaCrux  8)
Title: Re: Heavy Oil Ball
Post by: Dave81644 on December 14, 2016, 06:43:02 AM
Hammer Scandal is a beast, symmetrical and predictable
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEw5zAejKrk
Hammer has 3 year warranty

Newest Monster is the Columbia Tyrant, good midlane read and strong backend
https://youtu.be/4PPDGiHvai4
Tyrant has some new Hypershock technology in the cover of this piece

Title: Re: Heavy Oil Ball
Post by: AlonzoHarris on December 14, 2016, 07:03:03 AM
Hammer Scandal!

How do you compare your Scandal to your Haywire?
Title: Re: Heavy Oil Ball
Post by: Cornerpin on December 14, 2016, 07:22:15 AM
I had same results with the haywire, cover was too strong for the core.  I suggest an Alpha Crux for heavy oil.  Recently picked one up and feel the core and cover match perfectly.  Reads midlane really well and eats up the pocket.
Title: Re: Heavy Oil Ball
Post by: Metal_rules on December 14, 2016, 07:40:44 AM
Do some research on the --- No Rules
Title: Re: Heavy Oil Ball
Post by: vkowalski1970 on December 14, 2016, 07:47:39 AM
Hammer Scandal!



How do you compare your Scandal to your Haywire?

I love my Haywire since the day I got it, but I find my Scandal to be just a bit better, a bit stronger and takes surface changes much better. You can really see the difference in strength  of core. The ball rolls great for me at every surface Ive tried it, very predictable motion. The Haywire had been one of my favorites as long as there was plenty of oil, but i lost carry the deeper i moved in. The Scandal just keeps coming...The Scandal/Scandal Pearl combo has been the best solid/pearl same core combo Ive seen in a while for me. By far the best "strong" combo, not even close to any other pair
Title: Re: Heavy Oil Ball
Post by: AlonzoHarris on December 14, 2016, 07:57:12 AM
Hammer Scandal!



How do you compare your Scandal to your Haywire?

I love my Haywire since the day I got it, but I find my Scandal to be just a bit better, a bit stronger and takes surface changes much better. You can really see the difference in strength  of core. The ball rolls great for me at every surface Ive tried it, very predictable motion. The Haywire had been one of my favorites as long as there was plenty of oil, but i lost carry the deeper i moved in. The Scandal just keeps coming...The Scandal/Scandal Pearl combo has been the best solid/pearl same core combo Ive seen in a while for me. By far the best "strong" combo, not even close to any other pair

Awesome I will have to keep the Scandal on the list. I can't honestly think of a time I've heard a negative review of it. I think my issue with the Haywire was that Middle Roll core not having enough diff for how I was hoping to play it. I definitely notice carry issues when moving left.

I'm also wondering if maybe the Phaze II could fill this gap. Slightly weaker cover than that Haywire and stronger core might be a better marriage.
Title: Re: Heavy Oil Ball
Post by: ThomasBowling on December 14, 2016, 08:52:21 AM
Hammer Scandal solid
Title: Re: Heavy Oil Ball
Post by: ryguy119 on December 14, 2016, 09:05:35 AM
Hammer Scandal is money for me. Ball really handles the heavy stuff well. Ball also takes surface changes very well. Before I bought the Scandal pearl i polished up the Scandal and could use it on more conditions. Now that I bought the pearl version I took it back to 500/2000. I great compliment for sure. Also picked up the Heat Xtreme and have that ball right in between my 2 Scandals. A pretty tough 3 ball arsenal to beat for med/heavy conditions.
Title: Re: Heavy Oil Ball
Post by: CoorZero on December 14, 2016, 09:07:56 AM
Do you want a snow tire or something that has a little more pop on the backend? There are a lot of current options for the former but if it's the latter I would go with the Maverick. That ball handles a good amount of oil and stays clean enough to make a very strong move off the back. I'm really liking my Grudge Hybrid for that type of motion too.
Title: Re: Heavy Oil Ball
Post by: Brunswick_fan_BrandonH on December 14, 2016, 09:14:10 AM
I would suggest the Brunswick Absolute Nirvana for a heavier oil ball. It will cut through the heavy oil, not start up early, and have a strong backend motion.
Title: Re: Heavy Oil Ball
Post by: AlonzoHarris on December 14, 2016, 09:17:36 AM
Do you want a snow tire or something that has a little more pop on the backend? There are a lot of current options for the former but if it's the latter I would go with the Maverick. That ball handles a good amount of oil and stays clean enough to make a very strong move off the back. I'm really liking my Grudge Hybrid for that type of motion too.

To give an idea, what I've been experiencing is struggling in the early games/on the fresh of these heavier sport patterns. Once they get 2-3 games on them I can pull out the Primal Fear and do just fine. I am adding a Dream On soon as well. I guess long story short, I need to fill my Heavy oil control ball position. I feel like the Dream On will handle the MH-H Angular position before transitioning to a strong pearl. I would prefer more diff than the Haywire brought to the table though.
Title: Re: Heavy Oil Ball
Post by: CoorZero on December 14, 2016, 09:47:43 AM
To give an idea, what I've been experiencing is struggling in the early games/on the fresh of these heavier sport patterns. Once they get 2-3 games on them I can pull out the Primal Fear and do just fine. I am adding a Dream On soon as well. I guess long story short, I need to fill my Heavy oil control ball position. I feel like the Dream On will handle the MH-H Angular position before transitioning to a strong pearl. I would prefer more diff than the Haywire brought to the table though.

That helps... and gives you a lot of options to choose from.  ;D

Absolute Nirvana, Grudge, Tyrant, Warrior Supreme, Scandal, Paradox, No Rules, and Alpha Crux comes to mind as the top dogs in that mold for each of those companies. I doubt you would be too disappointed with any of them. My suggestion would to be get whatever one of them you can at the best price.

For what it's worth I threw my Absolute Nirvana for the first time last night and... wow. Very strong, continuous move towards the pocket. If we were anywhere near the top of the standings to compete in position round next week I probably would have switched from it in the first game. But we weren't so I wanted to see what it had to offer as the lanes dried out. Definitely not something to be used when it dries out, but not exactly all roll up front either. It's clean enough to give you nice angle entry to the pocket.

Title: Re: Heavy Oil Ball
Post by: AlonzoHarris on December 14, 2016, 10:04:24 AM
To give an idea, what I've been experiencing is struggling in the early games/on the fresh of these heavier sport patterns. Once they get 2-3 games on them I can pull out the Primal Fear and do just fine. I am adding a Dream On soon as well. I guess long story short, I need to fill my Heavy oil control ball position. I feel like the Dream On will handle the MH-H Angular position before transitioning to a strong pearl. I would prefer more diff than the Haywire brought to the table though.

That helps... and gives you a lot of options to choose from.  ;D

Absolute Nirvana, Grudge, Tyrant, Warrior Supreme, Scandal, Paradox, No Rules, and Alpha Crux comes to mind as the top dogs in that mold for each of those companies. I doubt you would be too disappointed with any of them. My suggestion would to be get whatever one of them you can at the best price.

For what it's worth I threw my Absolute Nirvana for the first time last night and... wow. Very strong, continuous move towards the pocket. If we were anywhere near the top of the standings to compete in position round next week I probably would have switched from it in the first game. But we weren't so I wanted to see what it had to offer as the lanes dried out. Definitely not something to be used when it dries out, but not exactly all roll up front either. It's clean enough to give you nice angle entry to the pocket.

Thanks for the info on the Absolute, the description you give sounds like what I need. I'll do some price comparisons and read through some more reviews. Apparently the Alpha Crux has a bit more pop than I thought too as I watched a few use it in a recent tournament. 
Title: Re: Heavy Oil Ball
Post by: AlonzoHarris on December 14, 2016, 10:26:09 AM
Just had another thought. If the Dream On works out well for me, I wonder if it might be worth it to get a second drilled more control and add surface.
Title: Re: Heavy Oil Ball
Post by: Impending Doom on December 14, 2016, 11:48:25 AM
Just had another thought. If the Dream On works out well for me, I wonder if it might be worth it to get a second drilled more control and add surface.

Yes. Ball is stupid good. (Have I already said that??)
Title: Re: Heavy Oil Ball
Post by: AlonzoHarris on December 14, 2016, 12:23:04 PM
Just had another thought. If the Dream On works out well for me, I wonder if it might be worth it to get a second drilled more control and add surface.

Yes. Ball is stupid good. (Have I already said that??)

Haha I think this is the first you've mentioned it.
Title: Re: Heavy Oil Ball
Post by: Impending Doom on December 14, 2016, 01:57:54 PM
I honestly think that if you took that ball to 1000 and use a strong still, you could use it on 50 feet of clam chowder.
Title: Re: Heavy Oil Ball
Post by: AlonzoHarris on December 14, 2016, 02:58:19 PM
I honestly think that if you took that ball to 1000 and use a strong still, you could use it on 50 feet of clam chowder.

Sold! haha but I will strongly consider a second one setup accordingly if the first one pans out well.

I'm eyeing the Phaze II for the slot as well.