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High RG balls
« on: November 01, 2019, 09:53:26 AM »
Roto Grip has a new ball coming out, the Wild Streak in their HP3 line. It is a 3000 grit solid cover with a 2.60 RG and 0.048 Diff. Under what conditions or during league on THS will a high RG ball fit?
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Re: High RG balls
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2019, 10:04:15 AM »
Primarily med/light, to light oil conditions, thatís typically what higher rg balls are designed for. (Conditions that get the ball down the lane further, less flare, meaning not grabbing the lane nearly as early).

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Re: High RG balls
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2019, 11:09:22 AM »
That ball still has quite a bit of flare potential st .048  Contrast to the very popular Purple Hammer at 2.65, and
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Re: High RG balls
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2019, 11:57:33 AM »
Primarily med/light, to light oil conditions, thatís typically what higher rg balls are designed for. (Conditions that get the ball down the lane further, less flare, meaning not grabbing the lane nearly as early).

Hope this helps.

RG and diff are not the same thing.

Higher the rg, the harder it is to get revving early.

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Re: High RG balls
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2019, 04:24:29 PM »
Correct Doom, I was just giving him a general idea of what is usually means ( Always different factors that can change with the rg/diff.

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Re: High RG balls
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2019, 04:54:41 PM »
High RG, med high diff and strong cover stock is same formula as the Fight (granted significantly different core).  Guessing this is going to be a much better ball though (have a feeling won't need as much oil as the Fight did).  OP can see Fight video to see at least general idea of what ball motion may look like. 
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Re: High RG balls
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2019, 01:57:54 AM »
High RG makes the ball harder to rev up during the release (but that's rarely a problem), and it bleeds energy off less easily than a low RG piece. This is a great asset when you want the ball to react late and bridge less oily lane regions. So it's good for lighter lane conditions, shorter oil, and can be helpful for low speed players.
The big differential can - depending on the drilling layout - be exploited to get the ball into its roll phase earlier. With the high RG, the ball can push well down the lane, but you might need that re-orientation power from the core to make the ball hook well (read: finish the hooking phase in time when the ball enters the pins). That needs some good timing and an even better ball driller, though.
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Re: High RG balls
« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2019, 09:11:13 AM »
I had a Fight. Loved the differential on it but hated the push of it on THS. I did find out that it was especially good on sports patterns however!

It required me to play straighter! It became a niche ball for me. Big hit far downlane!

For low rev bowlers or bowlers with minimal speed this is a plus!

This ball will probably be similar, though more useful on medium to light conditions.

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Re: High RG balls
« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2019, 10:57:10 AM »
I think there is a niche out there for high rg balls that hadnt been totally addressed.  Note the popularity of the urethane purple hammer at 2.65.  Also, going way back,  brunswick particles were among the best out there and featured rgs approaching 2.60. 

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Re: High RG balls
« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2019, 11:11:52 AM »
Since I bowl on a desert for league I pretty much have to use high RG balls.   Really fell in love with my Desperado TSE recently which is also mildly asymmetric.  So is my Mojave which it may well replace. High RG, lower diff mildly asym with a weaker cover gives me a great look for whatever reason but as you say kind of niche.
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Re: High RG balls
« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2019, 11:28:27 AM »
I think there is a niche out there for high rg balls that hadnt been totally addressed.  Note the popularity of the urethane purple hammer at 2.65.  Also, going way back,  brunswick particles were among the best out there and featured rgs approaching 2.60. 
+1. One of my favorites ever was tje Danger Zone HPD. The cover was light load particle, so it needed a core that wanted to push a little bit to get the ball to not burn too quickly. When shiny, it was extremely versatile for me. It still didn't get through the fronts like reactives (a good thing when you want the ball to slow down still), but it didn't completely sacrifice the look down the lane. Just wasn't a hockey stick off the friction. Will be interesting to see how this is compared to the Fight.
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Re: High RG balls
« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2019, 11:59:00 AM »
I had a Fight. Loved the differential on it but hated the push of it on THS. I did find out that it was especially good on sports patterns however!

It required me to play straighter! It became a niche ball for me. Big hit far downlane!

For low rev bowlers or bowlers with minimal speed this is a plus!

This ball will probably be similar, though more useful on medium to light conditions.



I had a Fight as well and the R4S cover was strong. The best it ever reacted for me was on short-medium length sport patterns that had volume up front.

Wild Streak will just depend on the cover strength. If it's a strong cover, it'll probably be more niche like the Fight. If the cover is more in the middle strength-wise, it could be a pretty interesting release.
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Re: High RG balls
« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2019, 12:28:11 PM »
Sounds like it will be between the Idol and Idol Pro in cover stock strength.  Pretty sure will be more versatile than the Fight just by not having the ridiculously niche oversized core alone.  Light bulbish core looks much better.
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