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Home Pro Shop Owners - Who is your supplier
« on: November 28, 2014, 12:05:59 PM »
Our pro shop lost its lease due to the Bowlmor/AMF corporate decision.  I bought one of his Drills and am going to drill out of my garage.  Classic will not sell to me because I am not in a brick and mortar pro shop.  Who do you order from and what kind of a discount can I get.  Buddies and some of the other shops sell balls at the same price that we sold in the shop, so I can't give any of my customers a break on the balls.  Any suggestions?
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Re: Home Pro Shop Owners - Who is your supplier
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2014, 12:15:43 PM »
No legitimate distributor will or should sell to any garage shops...
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Re: Home Pro Shop Owners - Who is your supplier
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2014, 01:04:53 PM »
I'd call your staff's company and explain to them what happend.  If they value you I'd think they would offer suggestions on how to get your business recognized.  Talk to a creditor and see if you could get a small business loan.  Follow your dreams, bowling needs your support.

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Re: Home Pro Shop Owners - Who is your supplier
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2014, 01:09:29 PM »
No legitimate distributor will or should sell to any garage shops...

Why?

As long as you have a tax number and/or the proper permits for operating a business. What difference does it make if you operate out of a garage?
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Re: Home Pro Shop Owners - Who is your supplier
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2014, 01:15:07 PM »
JustRico I normally agree with much you have to say but feel you are wrong about this. 


Do you live in a small town with only one small bowling alley and no pro shop?   Do you have to drive 300 miles to get any work done on a ball?   And when you do go to one of the highly recommended pro shops in the big city and they drill a conventional ball with the grip a half inch too long, do you want to drive back to get the work redone and have them charge you to fix their mistake?  (Actual event experienced by another bowler who did not learn of the mis-fit until many months later by another more experienced bowler - he thought it was normal to have to stretch his fingers into the ball).  That is the situation here in our small town.  Thankfully, we have a person who is willing to drill out of his garage to provide the missing services that are not available otherwise.  If it was not for drillers like them, some bowlers would just give up the sport because help was not readily available to them.



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Re: Home Pro Shop Owners - Who is your supplier
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2014, 02:02:04 PM »
JustRico I normally agree with much you have to say but feel you are wrong about this. 


Do you live in a small town with only one small bowling alley and no pro shop?   Do you have to drive 300 miles to get any work done on a ball?   And when you do go to one of the highly recommended pro shops in the big city and they drill a conventional ball with the grip a half inch too long, do you want to drive back to get the work redone and have them charge you to fix their mistake?  (Actual event experienced by another bowler who did not learn of the mis-fit until many months later by another more experienced bowler - he thought it was normal to have to stretch his fingers into the ball).  That is the situation here in our small town.  Thankfully, we have a person who is willing to drill out of his garage to provide the missing services that are not available otherwise.  If it was not for drillers like them, some bowlers would just give up the sport because help was not readily available to them.

I couldn't agree more with you.

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Re: Home Pro Shop Owners - Who is your supplier
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2014, 02:10:52 PM »
I said garage shop not one that ACTUALLY purchases a tax ID number plus sets up as if a legitimate business...there are too many, let me reiterate TOO MANY garage shops that screw legitimate businesses by undercutting....we check google maps with any new account
I deal every type of volume shop and actually have a few that have pro shop/businesses in their garages that are better than many shops....

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Re: Home Pro Shop Owners - Who is your supplier
« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2014, 02:55:30 PM »
I am with justrico
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Re: Home Pro Shop Owners - Who is your supplier
« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2014, 03:34:51 PM »
There are some that even with tax id numbers will not sell to home shops. Bowling is changing to the point in many smaller markets where it is the only option.

If you start calling distributors in your region it should not be an issue. Most proshop cost aren't much under online prices especially when factoring shipping.

My suggestion for you is not stock anything and make the customer pay up front for any product ordered. Yes on sone ball packages it is worth ordering because of the price. Otherwise no matter what close out price you see for x-outs or closeouts don't order and stock it. It will end with lots of stock sitting around not selling. Same for shoes, bags ect. Without the benefits of walkins being in a bowling alley its a different animal.
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Re: Home Pro Shop Owners - Who is your supplier
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2014, 12:09:27 AM »
     I was in a similar situation. I managed a pro shop for 8 years and finally got tired of being crapped on by the owners. I left and started my own business out of my "garage." I went and registered my business name, got a tax ID and used my supplier at the time. I started my own business for a couple of reasons: 1) I love the sport and 2) I am good at what I do and I feel bowlers need a respectable driller. I operated my business out of my "garage" for 6 years before the center owner and I had a meeting of our differences and I came went back to the center. I own my pro shop and just lease the space. During my time operating out of my "garage" the center where I was located at went through 6 ball drillers in 6 years. When I operated out of my "garage", my pricing mark-up was the same as it currently is at my location at the center. Why did people come to me as to the pro shop at the center? Because I had a reputation as being one of the best not in my city, but in my state. I had customers that came to my "garage" pro shop from over 200 miles annually. When stocking, I stocked about 12 balls of the current line-up of what I felt would sell. I did not stock shoes or bags and ordered upon payment. A decent distributor should work with you given the circumstance knowing you are a legitimate business and promoting the sport as to a garage hack that is just trying to save a buck from utilizing their local pro shop.
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Re: Home Pro Shop Owners - Who is your supplier
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2014, 09:45:48 PM »
Thus lies the problem.

Most legitimate suppliers (distributors) want to sell wholesale to proshops with some volume and represent legitimate business.

Not to someone who wants to get cheap equipment for themselves and a few of their friends.

Perfect Approach I assume you had a relationship with your supplier before leaving the proshop at the bowling alley. So they were willing to continue to work with you due to your previous relationship with them.

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Re: Home Pro Shop Owners - Who is your supplier
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2014, 09:51:13 PM »
Thus lies the problem.

Most legitimate suppliers (distributors) want to sell wholesale to proshops with some volume and represent legitimate business.

Not to someone who wants to get cheap equipment for themselves and a few of their friends.

Perfect Approach I assume you had a relationship with your supplier before leaving the proshop at the bowling alley. So they were willing to continue to work with you due to your previous relationship with them.

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Re: Home Pro Shop Owners - Who is your supplier
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2014, 05:06:52 PM »
JustRico I normally agree with much you have to say but feel you are wrong about this. 


Do you live in a small town with only one small bowling alley and no pro shop?   Do you have to drive 300 miles to get any work done on a ball?   And when you do go to one of the highly recommended pro shops in the big city and they drill a conventional ball with the grip a half inch too long, do you want to drive back to get the work redone and have them charge you to fix their mistake?  (Actual event experienced by another bowler who did not learn of the mis-fit until many months later by another more experienced bowler - he thought it was normal to have to stretch his fingers into the ball).  That is the situation here in our small town.  Thankfully, we have a person who is willing to drill out of his garage to provide the missing services that are not available otherwise.  If it was not for drillers like them, some bowlers would just give up the sport because help was not readily available to them.



What a crock of crap...Of course all real pro shops in the city are going to drill
the ball WRONG....And we all know, the only place where one can get a ball drilled right is in someones GARAGE...

What you really are saying is...If you want IT CHEAP...go to a garage...If you want it done right...go to a real pro shop...you might pay a bit more...but it's usually worth it to A REAL BOWLER...

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Re: Home Pro Shop Owners - Who is your supplier
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2014, 05:08:49 PM »
Generally if you get it done cheap...you get your monies worth...
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Re: Home Pro Shop Owners - Who is your supplier
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2014, 07:40:20 PM »
More money isn't more service. Blanket statements about either are not the reality. Ive got many local shops that are not worth the money if we consider all brick and mortar shops and prices the same.

One doesn't understand dynamics of xhole locations or finding a bowlers pap ect. You get pin up, and pin down for your choices. Have another shop that doesn't believe in lateral pitches for thumbs. They do a little better on layouts and xholes. One of the other drillers is a very good bowler but not when it comes to drilling. The one newer guy I would let drill my equipment besides me is in a center going out of business.

Those who blanket statement price along with proshops in bowling centers are kidding themselves to reality. Bad proshops can still charge high prices when they have the only game around.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2014, 07:42:32 PM by kidlost2000 »
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.