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Hook Juice / That Purple Stuff
« on: January 09, 2018, 07:46:38 PM »
Been bored at work these first few days of 2018:
www.HookJuice.com

www.ThatPurpleStuff.com


Just a little fun poke at each....
Maybe Ron will buy the URLs from me now, what a terrible CEO not even owning these URLs... 8)

 

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Re: Hook Juice / That Purple Stuff
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2018, 11:42:04 AM »
What does the OP hope to accomplish besides some kudos from a few dozen strangers on a very obscure bowling site that probably 90% of bowlers in the U.S. have never even visited?

You've already bought the domains, you apparently "know the secret sauce" to the cleaners and hook juice. Why not go all the way and open a store, bottle your own version, sell it for less and start making money? Why not, you have all the answers right OP? What are you waiting for?

Is marketing a brand on your own  money and promoting it nationwide too time consuming for you?
Do you not like money?
Do you not have time for a side business venture?
Do you not see the value in the bowling ball cleaner market?
Are you afraid of failing?
Are you afraid that you have all keys to success based off of the CtD brand, but due to your own procrastination and fear of competition that you would take on the side project and fail?
Are you afraid of the backlash from the people who actually support Ronald Hickland Jr. and his products?

I'm a Team CtD member and support Ron Hickland Jr. because I like him as a person and he's given me countless hours of training, coaching, and help to my physical game and arsenal out of the kindness of his heart and wanting to see bowlers grow along with the sport. He's done all of this without asking for any payment from me, and for that I will continue to support his brand and pay it forward by giving to others in the game what people have given me.

He's building a brand and a loyal community of people who love the sport and want to see it grow. Your troll job is only that. A troll job. People will forget in a few weeks and you'll have nothing to show for it, while Team CtD is out loving the sport and loving the community that it's fostered.

Those who can, do.
Those who can't troll.

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Re: Hook Juice / That Purple Stuff
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2018, 01:03:40 PM »
What does the OP hope to accomplish besides some kudos from a few dozen strangers on a very obscure bowling site that probably 90% of bowlers in the U.S. have never even visited?

You've already bought the domains, you apparently "know the secret sauce" to the cleaners and hook juice. Why not go all the way and open a store, bottle your own version, sell it for less and start making money? Why not, you have all the answers right OP? What are you waiting for?

Is marketing a brand on your own  money and promoting it nationwide too time consuming for you?
Do you not like money?
Do you not have time for a side business venture?
Do you not see the value in the bowling ball cleaner market?
Are you afraid of failing?
Are you afraid that you have all keys to success based off of the CtD brand, but due to your own procrastination and fear of competition that you would take on the side project and fail?
Are you afraid of the backlash from the people who actually support Ronald Hickland Jr. and his products?

I'm a Team CtD member and support Ron Hickland Jr. because I like him as a person and he's given me countless hours of training, coaching, and help to my physical game and arsenal out of the kindness of his heart and wanting to see bowlers grow along with the sport. He's done all of this without asking for any payment from me, and for that I will continue to support his brand and pay it forward by giving to others in the game what people have given me.

He's building a brand and a loyal community of people who love the sport and want to see it grow. Your troll job is only that. A troll job. People will forget in a few weeks and you'll have nothing to show for it, while Team CtD is out loving the sport and loving the community that it's fostered.

Those who can, do.
Those who can't troll.

-DJ Marshall
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 Get a grip there Mr. “Team CtD National Staffer”.

 Ronald Hickland, OUT OF HIS OWN MOUTH, said that hook juice alters the chemical structure of the balls coverstock.

 That, INHERENTLY, makes it “illegal” per U.S.B.C. standards.

 So you, donning you armor of loyalty, jump to defend him by belittling someone who has EVERY RIGHT to say and do what he has?

 RONALD HICKLAND, MR. “LOVES BOWLING AND BOWLERS AND WANTS TO SEE THE SPORT GROW” is the one who dropped the ball here. All he had to EVER do was provide the proof that his product was approved for use.

 He didn’t because either it isn’t approved, or he just doesn’t care enough to do so.

 Is it your opinion that people should just be able to flaunt the rules and sell anything they want to to the public, all because they are “nice people who care and have helped people out of the kindness of their hearts”?  BULLSHIT!

 Now, we have, most likely, ALL used something “illegal” to clean our equipment at one point or another. The difference is, I ain’t trying to sell it to anyone else under the auspices of it being fine to use it, thus perpetrating fraud on the consumer.

 Yes, FRAUD!

 He was in the industry long enough, and involved deeply enough, to know what it takes to get product approval. He also knows that without that approval, his product is ILLEGAL TO USE, AND CAUSES ANY EQUIPMENT IT IS USED ON TO ALSO BECOME ILLEGAL, VOIDING THE MANUFACTURERS WARRANTY ON IT AND MAKING IT USELESS!

 His knowledge and experience in the field, open him up to lawsuits from people that use his product, then sue him for screwing up all their equipment knowingly, by frauding them into using an illegal substance that, in turn, made their $1000’s of dollars worth of equipment illegal also.

 You, my friend, need to get some new glasses, because the rose colored ones your wearing now ain’t working for you.
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Re: Hook Juice / That Purple Stuff
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2018, 02:47:47 PM »
That's great that he helps you out. I can say I'm on staff and really do not do anything with it. They let anyone join, which is good to help grow a base of CtD followers, but no much else. I can honestly tell you that I didn't learn a thing by being a part of the group, so I left. It's not worth my time, but that's just my opinion.

Now I must say $40 to $50 per month to be on a monthly subscription is a little much.


What does the OP hope to accomplish besides some kudos from a few dozen strangers on a very obscure bowling site that probably 90% of bowlers in the U.S. have never even visited?

You've already bought the domains, you apparently "know the secret sauce" to the cleaners and hook juice. Why not go all the way and open a store, bottle your own version, sell it for less and start making money? Why not, you have all the answers right OP? What are you waiting for?

Is marketing a brand on your own  money and promoting it nationwide too time consuming for you?
Do you not like money?
Do you not have time for a side business venture?
Do you not see the value in the bowling ball cleaner market?
Are you afraid of failing?
Are you afraid that you have all keys to success based off of the CtD brand, but due to your own procrastination and fear of competition that you would take on the side project and fail?
Are you afraid of the backlash from the people who actually support Ronald Hickland Jr. and his products?

I'm a Team CtD member and support Ron Hickland Jr. because I like him as a person and he's given me countless hours of training, coaching, and help to my physical game and arsenal out of the kindness of his heart and wanting to see bowlers grow along with the sport. He's done all of this without asking for any payment from me, and for that I will continue to support his brand and pay it forward by giving to others in the game what people have given me.

He's building a brand and a loyal community of people who love the sport and want to see it grow. Your troll job is only that. A troll job. People will forget in a few weeks and you'll have nothing to show for it, while Team CtD is out loving the sport and loving the community that it's fostered.

Those who can, do.
Those who can't troll.

-DJ Marshall
Team CtD National Staffer
Las Vegas, NV

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Re: Hook Juice / That Purple Stuff
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2018, 05:30:12 PM »
I agree, I am not part of the subscription model any longer, but what Ron has done for me, going as far back as ten years I know that he's only trying to grow a brand. It's a free market  economy.

You ballreviews guys ate up Beans Secret Sauce for years which could be replicated with 3M Finesse-it compound and peroxide. Where was the hate then? If you don't like the product, don't buy it. Creating a way to damage someone's brand through trolling seems a bit childish to me. But then again.....

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Re: Hook Juice / That Purple Stuff
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2018, 08:03:25 PM »
I have a question..

What the h e double hockey sticks is CtD??

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Re: Hook Juice / That Purple Stuff
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2018, 08:06:30 PM »
I have a question..

What the h e double hockey sticks is CtD??

CTD stands for Creating The Difference which is the company name.

https://ctdbowling.com
« Last Edit: January 10, 2018, 08:09:10 PM by Aloarjr810 »
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Re: Hook Juice / That Purple Stuff
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2018, 08:12:05 PM »
HackJandy stated " $2 an oz. ball cleaners are for suckers". 
Some of us have done very well financially in life and would rather buy the commercial products ($2 per oz.) then having to spend time mixing products like SG, ISO, water, etc. to clean our bowling balls
That does not mean we are suckers!
I don't think any less of my fellow man who chooses to mix their own bargain basement cleaners, whether they have to financially or just simply elect to do so.
But, calling anyone who elects to pay $2 an oz. for a commercial ball cleaner a sucker does not compute and is frankly offensive.

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Re: Hook Juice / That Purple Stuff
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2018, 09:00:58 PM »
HackJandy stated " $2 an oz. ball cleaners are for suckers". 
Some of us have done very well financially in life and would rather buy the commercial products ($2 per oz.) then having to spend time mixing products like SG, ISO, water, etc. to clean our bowling balls
That does not mean we are suckers!
I don't think any less of my fellow man who chooses to mix their own bargain basement cleaners, whether they have to financially or just simply elect to do so.
But, calling anyone who elects to pay $2 an oz. for a commercial ball cleaner a sucker does not compute and is frankly offensive.

And Ron thanks you.  Seriously if you use straight 91% IPA you don't have to mix crap.  It works at least 95% as well as $2 an oz stuff for 5% of the cost (with SG second cleaning at home it works better than Monster Tac once over).  Many of the cleaners are alcohol based anyway.  Do whatever works for you but plenty of hucksters like Ron here to make you feel good about fancy brand X.  I have plenty of money (25 balls and counting most in last 6 months, middle aged with a good day job has its perks) but would rather not spend it on overpriced consumables from the ball companies (who mostly sell re-purposed general cleaners anyway).  Still do whatever the hell you want man.  I could care less.  Just another rando to me so never meant to throw shade your way personally.  Any topic involving hook juice is going to get the word sucker (or equivalent) thrown out there guaranteed.

(edit:  the one $2 an oz cleaner I do recommend people do use at least for resurfaces is clean and dull.  That is the best cleaner on the market, not for every session use obviously)

« Last Edit: January 10, 2018, 10:19:41 PM by HackJandy »
Kind of noob when made this account so take advice with grain of salt.

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Re: Hook Juice / That Purple Stuff
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2018, 09:22:21 PM »
This is a bowling review site where I discovered these products and to my surprise neither had a website. I did indeed buy the URLs for sh-t and giggles as it was so surprising they were available as anyone selling a product online should buy the URL(s) for their product as the costs are so low in general - Marketing 101.

I have tried TPS and it was very unimpressive and thought was overpriced. I will not try hookjuice because the price is ludicrous and the claims are even more. I put up the pages as a spoof all in good fun and tried to make them amusing nothing more, nothing less. Neither page is a commercial venture just opinions and small attempts at humor.

And if this site is so obscure why are you posting on it?




What does the OP hope to accomplish besides some kudos from a few dozen strangers on a very obscure bowling site that probably 90% of bowlers in the U.S. have never even visited?

You've already bought the domains, you apparently "know the secret sauce" to the cleaners and hook juice. Why not go all the way and open a store, bottle your own version, sell it for less and start making money? Why not, you have all the answers right OP? What are you waiting for?

Is marketing a brand on your own  money and promoting it nationwide too time consuming for you?
Do you not like money?
Do you not have time for a side business venture?
Do you not see the value in the bowling ball cleaner market?
Are you afraid of failing?
Are you afraid that you have all keys to success based off of the CtD brand, but due to your own procrastination and fear of competition that you would take on the side project and fail?
Are you afraid of the backlash from the people who actually support Ronald Hickland Jr. and his products?

I'm a Team CtD member and support Ron Hickland Jr. because I like him as a person and he's given me countless hours of training, coaching, and help to my physical game and arsenal out of the kindness of his heart and wanting to see bowlers grow along with the sport. He's done all of this without asking for any payment from me, and for that I will continue to support his brand and pay it forward by giving to others in the game what people have given me.

He's building a brand and a loyal community of people who love the sport and want to see it grow. Your troll job is only that. A troll job. People will forget in a few weeks and you'll have nothing to show for it, while Team CtD is out loving the sport and loving the community that it's fostered.

Those who can, do.
Those who can't troll.

-DJ Marshall
Team CtD National Staffer
Las Vegas, NV

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Re: Hook Juice / That Purple Stuff
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2018, 09:47:56 PM »
Actually those who recognize someone trying to scam bowlers by abusing the misconception that more hook and/or backend is automatically better, those people troll.  There's a very big difference between the words "improve," and "alter." 

What does the OP hope to accomplish besides some kudos from a few dozen strangers on a very obscure bowling site that probably 90% of bowlers in the U.S. have never even visited?

You've already bought the domains, you apparently "know the secret sauce" to the cleaners and hook juice. Why not go all the way and open a store, bottle your own version, sell it for less and start making money? Why not, you have all the answers right OP? What are you waiting for?

Is marketing a brand on your own  money and promoting it nationwide too time consuming for you?
Do you not like money?
Do you not have time for a side business venture?
Do you not see the value in the bowling ball cleaner market?
Are you afraid of failing?
Are you afraid that you have all keys to success based off of the CtD brand, but due to your own procrastination and fear of competition that you would take on the side project and fail?
Are you afraid of the backlash from the people who actually support Ronald Hickland Jr. and his products?

I'm a Team CtD member and support Ron Hickland Jr. because I like him as a person and he's given me countless hours of training, coaching, and help to my physical game and arsenal out of the kindness of his heart and wanting to see bowlers grow along with the sport. He's done all of this without asking for any payment from me, and for that I will continue to support his brand and pay it forward by giving to others in the game what people have given me.

He's building a brand and a loyal community of people who love the sport and want to see it grow. Your troll job is only that. A troll job. People will forget in a few weeks and you'll have nothing to show for it, while Team CtD is out loving the sport and loving the community that it's fostered.

Those who can, do.
Those who can't troll.

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Re: Hook Juice / That Purple Stuff
« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2018, 10:10:40 PM »
HackJandy
I don't need Ron H. to thank me because I don't use his products. 
I respect whatever product(s) anyone elects to use and for whatever reason they use it.
I use Tac Up and Clean and Dull. So based on price per oz. accordingly to you that makes me and a whole lot of others suckers.
As I said I respect what you use.  You may try to extend the same courtesy. 
Thank you and goodnight.

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Re: Hook Juice / That Purple Stuff
« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2018, 10:15:18 PM »
HackJandy
I don't need Ron H. to thank me because I don't use his products. 
I respect whatever product(s) anyone elects to use and for whatever reason they use it.
I use Tac Up and Clean and Dull. So based on price per oz. accordingly to you that makes me and a whole lot of others suckers.
As I said I respect what you use.  You may try to extend the same courtesy. 
Thank you and goodnight.

I respect (respect, complete indifference same thing right?) your right to spend your money how you choose and suckers only came up based on the topic being all about suckers.  To each their own as you say.  Posted edit about clean and dull before your post and that is not your typical cleaner (little goes a very long ways) so it is out in the garage.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2018, 10:20:42 PM by HackJandy »
Kind of noob when made this account so take advice with grain of salt.

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Re: Hook Juice / That Purple Stuff
« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2018, 10:44:41 PM »
Well some may think the USBC is being stupid or silly in what their saying about  mixing approved products.

Their not, just because products individually are safe and perform a certain way. Does not mean the same would hold true if those products were combined.

Bleach and ammonia are fairly safe to use individually, but mixed they are VERY dangerous.

So until those mixes are tested, they can't say they are legal to use.
So am I supposed to believe that if I use a paper towel dampened with water is illegal to use to wipe off the film left after using an approved cleaner?

Water not being on their approved chemical list is ass nine (guess legal after all but boy good thing their rules aren't confusing).  Full strength SG being legal but diluted with water (which it is made for and says right on label) being illegal is super ass nine.

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Re: Hook Juice / That Purple Stuff
« Reply #29 on: January 11, 2018, 05:23:38 AM »
On the SG "diluted" with water stuff...

It's not diluted. It's returned to its proper formulation. It's sold as a concentrate. It's not intended to be used in that form. It's fully intended to be mixed with water to return it to its proper mixture. The same mixture it should have been tested at by the USBC.

So I have no idea where it keeps coming up as you can't "dilute" SG. Its on the packaging to NOT use the product in the form it ships in. To use it in its intended and safe formulation, you're supposed to mix water in.

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Re: Hook Juice / That Purple Stuff
« Reply #30 on: January 11, 2018, 07:56:52 AM »
Water not being on their approved chemical list is ass nine (guess legal after all but boy good thing their rules aren't confusing).  Full strength SG being legal but diluted with water (which it is made for and says right on label) being illegal is super ass nine.

This is an incredible display of irony here, the bold text is literally asinine. 
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