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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: jomanj on August 31, 2013, 11:45:31 AM
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I understand rule 400, but is there a way that I could bowl and get in things like mystery and high game and be able to win money?
I am 17 btw
Any help would be appreciated :D
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I understand rule 400, but is there a way that I could bowl and get in things like mystery and high game and be able to win money?
I am 17 btw
Any help would be appreciated :D
Looking at Rule 400 No, if you want to keep your Youth Membership. If you win money, you've violated the rule.
Youth Membership Eligibility - Rule 400
USBC Youth membership is available to individuals who have not reached their 20th birthday prior
to August 1 of the current bowling season and have maintained compliance with Item a below.
Individuals who purchase Youth membership in a summer league and turn 20 prior to August 1 will be
allowed to complete the summer league. The age limitation is waived for those authorized as mentally
challenged.
a. Except as provided in Item b, a youth may not bowl, substitute or pace in any bowling activity
which offers any of the following as prizes:
1. Cash or bonds.
2. Merchandise exceeding $500 in value.
b. Youth may bowl in singles competitions (including side competitions/brackets) offering such prizes,
provided, prior to bowling:
1. The competition agrees to award the youth’s prize in the form of a scholarship; or
2. The youth signs the USBC Singles Competition Prize Waiver waiving his/her rights to any prize in
violation of this rule.
In youth competition, youth members may participate in side competitions/brackets provided all
entries are returned 100% in the form of scholarships only and awards comply with Item a above.
Buying or selling of earned prizes is prohibited.
Any youth bowler deemed in violation of this rule is subject to disciplinary action including the
potential loss of youth membership.
NOTE: There are no limits on scholarship amounts or entry fees (must be paid directly to the
tournament director/manager) and reimbursement of actual travel expenses into the next
higher level of competition or any tournament or event. (Receipts must be provided upon
request.)
The prizes authorized by a state high school athletic association or a collegiate athletic association
recognized by USBC and USBC Collegiate are not subject to the limitations of this rule.
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Thanks for the response
I really have no interest in bowling youth anymore. I just wanna know how or if I can bowl adult and win cash prizes being 17? And if I can, then how?
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If you are not interested in bowling youth anymore go adult...unless you want to stay in for college and scholarships
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My son wanted to go this route as well, until I told him that he would have to pay his own way. League fees, pots, side pots, and all other expenses....then he decided to stay in youth league. If you can pay your own way, and remember, it's a commitment for the duration of the season, then go for it.
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if you want to bowl adult just sign up for a league. you dont have to sign a waiver or anything. you just automatically lose your youth eligibility and chance at scholarship money. you just make the money in the form of cash instead. you do not lose any collegiate elligibility either since mens bowling is run under usbc collegiate instead of NCAA.
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The collegiate rules for men may change in the near future. I know the governing body of mens college bowling was having a discussion about putting some rules in place that would mimic those that the NCAA use. How far this discussion went and how likely it would be put into place I do not know.
Since you are 17, your going to need your parents to sign a consent form and then send it to the USBC. Basically this is a letter saying that you are giving up your youth status to go and bowl adult leagues and your parents agree to allow this.
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As stated just go and sign up on any adult league and your ready to go. More options for bowling then in youth events.
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i would tell you to stay youth as long as you can, you are not missing anything going adult, and there honestly isnt any huge amounts of money bowling in adults leagues. You will have more fun at youth and college tournaments.
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He can still bowl college. Witchita State bowls the Tulsa open every year for money.
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He should have a consent form signed by his parents so they are aware of this! We had a youth that wanted to bowl as an adult and we had his dad sign the form to make sure everybody was on the same page! He's still is a minor and his parents should be made aware so they can give their consent! If not they may not want him to bowl as an adult yet! Matt Mcneil is going to be bowling for Wichita State because he still has college eligibility and look at the money he's made bowling! Just my $.02, Bruce
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Thanks for your replies, I found what I needed to know.
The reason I am making the jump to adult is because I've done what I wanted to do in youth bowling. Traveled, had my fun, won, lost, dealt with the politics of people who are out to get you. Did it since the day I could walk and it burnt me. Took a 1 year break, and decided to move up and join some old friends.
My parents are aware of me moving up and I'm not looking for big money or anything, but an occasional hit on mystery or high game would be nice :P.Just goin to bowl with the people I want to an hopefully it reignites the fire I used to have for the game.
And bowling in college no longer intrests me because (this is just my opinion) its pointless and not worth my while being its not a NCAA sport.
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He should have a consent form signed by his parents so they are aware of this! We had a youth that wanted to bowl as an adult and we had his dad sign the form to make sure everybody was on the same page! He's still is a minor and his parents should be made aware so they can give their consent! If not they may not want him to bowl as an adult yet! Matt Mcneil is going to be bowling for Wichita State because he still has college eligibility and look at the money he's made bowling! Just my $.02, Bruce
Is it necessary to put an exclamation point after every sentence?
Anyway, just go adult. I was bowling in juniors when the limit was still 21, and I stayed until I was forced to go adult. I became a better bowler by bowling with adults rather than bowling with kids, most of whom were younger than me, some significantly. Like you, I flamed out and stopped bowling, and I'm just getting back into it after 3 years. I'm already enjoying the game again, so if you feel like youth isn't worth it anymore, just go adult.
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I just hope you're ready for the mega egos, major attitude temper tantrums, house hacks, the 1 bowler who constantly complains about their shot no matter the outcome, and the I know all there is about bowling bowlers that are in every adult league there is.
Either way, you sounds like this is going to be what you want to do. Only 1 thing to do, go out there and join an adult league.
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So I just confused myself all over again...
You must be 18 for adult membership -- so the question is can I bowl in adult WITH youth membership WITHOUT the rule 400 form(so I can get into pots).
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So I just confused myself all over again...
You must be 18 for adult membership -- so the question is can I bowl in adult WITH youth membership WITHOUT the rule 400 form(so I can get into pots).
No, you can't. To bowl in adult leagues, you have to have an adult membership. You would have to forfeit your youth membership to bowl in that adult league.
I would actually say that if you've done all you wanted to in youth bowling, Collegiates is where you should head next, because you may find that while you are the best in your area, you certainly won't be when you're bowling teams or singles in collegiate tournaments. You may find you have a lot to unlearn and relearn because you've kept your view rather narrow.
But we see that the want for money is driving this, so if you want to bowl adults just for the money, wait the last year and go adult.
BL.
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Thanks for the response.
This is just my opinion, but college bowling is NOT what it used to be. Especially for men. If it was an NCAA sport like it used to be, there is no doubt I would still have those aspirations. But now that has all changed, and the schools that used to have a mens program that I was interested in no longer do.
I'm not expecting big money or anything. It's just if I am going to bowl adult I would like the ability to get in pots.
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Thanks for the response.
This is just my opinion, but college bowling is NOT what it used to be. Especially for men. If it was an NCAA sport like it used to be, there is no doubt I would still have those aspirations. But now that has all changed, and the schools that used to have a mens program that I was interested in no longer do.
I'm not expecting big money or anything. It's just if I am going to bowl adult I would like the ability to get in pots.
Umm.. collegiates was never a NCAA sport. It certainly wasn't when I was bowling it in the early/mid 1990s.
BL.
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Didn't mens get the same recognition as a NCAA sport in like 02-04? Guess I was wrong, thanks for the correction. :D
Either way, Nebraska dropped their program and that's where I wanted to go.
And out of curiosity, who did you bowl for?
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It was womens who got the recognition at that tame, and it was around the same time the mens program got dropped there
My mistake :-[
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nebraska has/had a men's team last year...they are a club team. College bowling is one of my greatest memories for bowling. I would give anything to go back and do it again!
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nebraska has/had a men's team last year...they are a club team. College bowling is one of my greatest memories for bowling. I would give anything to go back and do it again!
Totally agree. I bowled club at Texas A&M and it was a great experience. Making regionals was a great experience along with the camaraderie. Definitely recommend bowling collegiately. And if the school you are planning on attending doesn't have a club team, you can always start your own.
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nebraska has/had a men's team last year...they are a club team. College bowling is one of my greatest memories for bowling. I would give anything to go back and do it again!
And on top of that, it is only the women's collegiates altogether that are NCAA-funded. Mens and womens are backed by the USBC.
I went to Nebraska as well, and know for a fact that they have a men's team. I was on it, from 1992-1996.
BL.