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Title: How would you deal with this pattern?
Post by: bcw1969 on August 07, 2019, 05:54:30 PM
This weekend I will be bowling on this......... what type of equipment would you use for this. Should I respect the length more than the volume? I have bowled on short before (the pba wolf), but don't think my experiences that  pattern will be of much help now.

Brad
Title: Re: How would you deal with this pattern?
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on August 07, 2019, 06:08:44 PM
TL;DR my cheat sheet - http://www.kegel.net/wpa/2016/3/14/nl10r2ontx0bte4i03rdese2bgj7ft
Title: Re: How would you deal with this pattern?
Post by: bcw1969 on August 07, 2019, 06:24:27 PM
Def going to bring my 2 scorchers...since I put them back to a previous "weaker" drilling, they will still handle and grip with control the front part of the lane but they won't be too much on the back. Add the spare ball and my 6 ball bag has 3 slots left....hmmmmmm

Brad
Title: Re: How would you deal with this pattern?
Post by: Steven on August 07, 2019, 06:48:12 PM
It's a higher volume shorter pattern. How it plays is really going to depend on the condition of the surface and machine used to lay down the pattern. In general, the pattern will play close to the gutter. How you get to the ideal break point will depend on your rev-rate.


Don't assume that the back ends are going to initially be flying, and that you have to revert to weaker equipment. That could be the case, but you might need to use a stronger symmetric to turn the corner and get to the pocket. Be prepared for both scenarios.


Given the higher volume in the first 36', be prepared to experience transition as the oil gets pushed. Have fun.
Title: Re: How would you deal with this pattern?
Post by: SVstar34 on August 07, 2019, 06:48:48 PM
Even though it's 36ft, I'd be focusing more on stronger covers to get through the bigger volume and not go sideways on the back.

Obviously lane surface is a bigger variable with a pattern like this.

Steven covered it pretty well above me
Title: Re: How would you deal with this pattern?
Post by: avabob on August 07, 2019, 07:17:54 PM
Also a lot depends on your style.  7 loads 2 to 2 is a lot of volume outside
  Tame solids, maybe even a strong urethane would be in my bag.  Phase 2 might even work if you have decent speed.
Title: Re: How would you deal with this pattern?
Post by: bcw1969 on August 07, 2019, 07:31:54 PM
Yes the 7 2-2 loads is on the forward pass....but don't forget the 4 2-2 loads on the reverse pass. I am a low rev moderate speed at best stroker.  Strong urethane I could try. I do have a visionary Crow and I have a Brunswick blue phantom which set the limits for low rg and high diff. Surface on the urethanes should get them through the heads, with hopefully no overreaction on the back. I do have 2 purple Ice executioners which visionary described as "Urethane on steroids" even though they are reactive...then there is always my ebonite riptide...that'll grab on anything.

Brad
Title: Re: How would you deal with this pattern?
Post by: LookingForALeftyWall on August 07, 2019, 11:31:03 PM
House topography will dictate where to play, more so than oil pattern. While I agree that the breakpoint should theoretically be near the gutter, it may not be so due to the lanes themselves.

Case in point, the 2017 PBA Xtra Frame Jonesboro Open a few years back:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=crPqGKDFMIc

This was on Cheetah (35 ft pattern) - look at where Lavoie was playing to win the championship.  Not anywhere close to the gutter with a fairly strong ball (Phaze2) and a 400 ref rate.

Long story short: have an open mind about both lane play AND equipment. Bring a well rounded arsenal, not just a couple bags full of weaker balls.
Title: Re: How would you deal with this pattern?
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on August 08, 2019, 07:51:45 AM

Like was alluded to earlier, I first look at how many 2:2 loads, and 7 of them is significant.  Very flat means no miss room outside and no hold area inside.

For me, I like surface on the ball to pick up the mid-lane and control the late movement better.  Our eyes are used to seeing the reaction more side to side, but in this environment I try to imagine managing it more front to back.  Polished equipment can get quirky, especially closer to the pocket. 

People will be all over the place trying to find their shot, which can cause carry-down, yet another problem for polished balls.

Solids that you can control the backends will be your best bet, because staying out of trouble and then making spares is going to be critical.  I just bowled last week on a tougher pattern and 190s felt like an accomplishment.  We also moved a pair every game and so every pair transitioned differently due to people searching for the "easy" line that isn't there.

Best of luck to you.  Relax and have fun with the challenge.

Title: Re: How would you deal with this pattern?
Post by: Good Times Good Times on August 08, 2019, 10:43:34 AM
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Title: Re: How would you deal with this pattern?
Post by: Steven on August 08, 2019, 10:55:32 AM
House topography will dictate where to play, more so than oil pattern. While I agree that the breakpoint should theoretically be near the gutter, it may not be so due to the lanes themselves.

 
That's what I find to be the primary factor in bowling on Sport/PBA patterns. There is usually a "recommended" way to attack a shot, but it's just a starting point to figure out what works for you.

Case in point: I'm always fascinated how a given short PBA pattern at the new stadium in SouthPoint (Vegas) plays relative to the same pattern in my Sport Shot league in an older house. At SouthPoint, I'm getting much more hook at the end of the pattern than I do in my home house. I usually use different lines and different equipment in the two environments. You have to keep an open mind.