Post by: sir dyno on October 30, 2005, 11:11:43 PM
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dynothane and lane 1.... is there any better of a combination? things and saws are adictive
who needs to messure with a bomb
Post by: KDawg77 on October 31, 2005, 07:12:28 AM
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Post by: sir dyno on October 31, 2005, 07:20:14 AM
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Stop whining, I hope he kicked your azz.
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not exactly... all you know what i am talking about
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"I shall spend my life preparing... and one day my chance will come...." - Abraham Lincon
to who much is given, much is expected - somwere in the bible...
brand new member of the F.O.S. with a brand new hybrid dirty bomb
dynothane and lane 1.... is there any better of a combination? things and saws are adictive
who needs to messure with a bomb
Post by: Cbjdc on October 31, 2005, 08:36:40 AM
-I am just aggrevated after being told that if lefthanders had the same shot as right handed bowlers that we would never win anything.
First this comes from a redneck who throws a puma and a white dot. He says that the puma is the most advanced ball on the market. UHM.......Sure
This is the people they allow to bowl now.
Post by: Strapper_Squared on October 31, 2005, 08:53:16 AM
I personally like the challenge of being able to read and adjust to lanes. And if it really get too bad and you just can't take it any longer, there really is nothing preventing you (at least I don't think so) from switching over to the left side
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Post by: sir dyno on October 31, 2005, 09:08:46 AM
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Make the adjustment........
making the change is not really a problem BUT... i believe that right handers are slightly better than lefts because rights HAVE to know how to change more often then left
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"I shall spend my life preparing... and one day my chance will come...." - Abraham Lincon
to who much is given, much is expected - somwere in the bible...
brand new member of the F.O.S. with a brand new hybrid dirty bomb
dynothane and lane 1.... is there any better of a combination? things and saws are adictive
who needs to messure with a bomb
Post by: DukeHarding on October 31, 2005, 09:20:35 AM
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Make the adjustment........
making the change is not really a problem BUT... i believe that right handers are slightly better than lefts because rights HAVE to know how to change more often then left
That is a ridiculous blanket statement.
I know a lefty, that says the opposite:
"Lefty's are better than righty's, as we can square up, righty's can't."
Depends on the experience, and the talent of the bowlers. If you're talking about a house hack, fine...other wise it's pretty insulting, and tiring.
You just need a little cheese, with your whine.
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Post by: Berreez on October 31, 2005, 10:28:55 AM
I’ve once bowled on a team that was all lefties and we won the tournament! Needless to say the righties didn’t have much to say about that. We took away their excuse!!! Did we have to make adjustments, of course but it wasn’t any big deal.
On average I would have to say that if a lefty has a shot the shot very seldom leaves, but if we don’t there isn’t anyone to help us open our side up like the right-handers do. Then we have to make adjustments to that by going straighter, changing ball speeds, hand positions, tilt or axis rotations or balls.
Again it all goes back to how the lanes were setup. Most of the righties that are complaining are house hacks (my opinion) anyway. If they were as good as they think they are then they would have found away to adjust. You guys sound just like those damned Democrats, whining all the time about something not being fair!!!
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Post by: mrfjmt on October 31, 2005, 10:57:39 AM
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The best of both worlds. We have a young man who has established an ave with both hands and with both hands carries an over 200 ave.
Come leaague time, during practice he tosses balls with both hands to determine which side plays better and then bowls that league with which hand he has determined to give the best shot.
He never complains.
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Post by: LuckyLefty on October 31, 2005, 12:50:59 PM
I've seen him bowl an 816 in a tourney with a 300 up the left side.
That was about 5 years ago.
I asked him when he decides to bowl right or left. He says I bowl on the left when the shot is better. 8 times out of 10 that I've seen him the last few years he was on the right!
Hmmmm!?
REgards,
Luckylefty
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Post by: Ragnar on October 31, 2005, 12:57:09 PM
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Post by: a_ak57 on October 31, 2005, 01:30:53 PM
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Post by: Speedburner89 on October 31, 2005, 02:30:29 PM
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Post by: mrfjmt on October 31, 2005, 02:36:07 PM
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I think I'll bring up the double-edged sword aspect. Sure, if the pattern is there and there is only one lefty he won't have to move a ton. BUT, what if there is absolutely no shot to start out with? He'll be waiting game after game to get a line, while the right side of the lane will break down quickly and the righties will have a better time scoring...
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To that, I would say what SuperSaw wrote in reply #4:
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Since I am a lefty yes I do. That is all I ever hear, " you don't have to deal with what we do, noone else bowls on your side." And I always say the same thing, deal with it or shut up.
Post by: mrfjmt on October 31, 2005, 03:34:50 PM
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I think I'll bring up the double-edged sword aspect. Sure, if the pattern is there and there is only one lefty he won't have to move a ton. BUT, what if there is absolutely no shot to start out with? He'll be waiting game after game to get a line, while the right side of the lane will break down quickly and the righties will have a better time scoring...
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To that, I would say what SuperSaw wrote in reply #4:quote:
Since I am a lefty yes I do. That is all I ever hear, " you don't have to deal with what we do, noone else bowls on your side." And I always say the same thing, deal with it or shut up.
????????? He was defending that we can be shut out very easily?? WTH?
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Yes, a_ak57 was defending lefties, where their condition may not change for the better if not ideal to begin with. To that, I say lefties should "deal with it or shut up" instead of whine about how their shot doesn't "open up" the way it might on the right side. This is in response to SuperSaw's reply that right-handers should "deal with it or shut up" when lefties DO have a great shot to the hole and never have to make a adjustment (sir dyno's initial post.)
Post by: Ragnar on October 31, 2005, 03:36:09 PM
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Post by: scotts33 on October 31, 2005, 03:38:21 PM
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have nothing against lefties, other than fluff-up-five, merkin salesmen with fewer revs than Scott Devers. Now they should be exiled to Lebanon.
Mario--You mean you didn't fall in love with Scott's figure 8 arm swing?
Guess what he does now Mario? Manages & part owner of Arrowhead Lanes in Lafayette, IN.
Scott
Post by: BrunsMAC on October 31, 2005, 04:03:38 PM
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Post by: mrfjmt on October 31, 2005, 04:20:31 PM
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Shutup and deal with the bashing?? LMAO, you guys are just babies with the exception of those who understand how easy we can be shutout also. But if you blame your own poor bowling on the fact that the leftside is 'easier' you've got problems.
Who here has asked you to shut up and deal with any bashing? I understand that the left side isn't always wide open. a_ak57 understands it. However, you can't have it both ways. You can't tell right-handers to "deal with it or shut up" if they complain about lefties having a sweet shot where little to no adjustment is needed...then not expect yourselves to be told to "deal with it or shut up" if you whine about not having that nice little nut you think you deserve.
Post by: LuvThatWhiteDot on October 31, 2005, 05:35:32 PM
I'm righty and STAYING that way
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Post by: mrfjmt on November 01, 2005, 11:43:06 AM
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Didn't you just tell me to shutup and deal with it in that post before or I am I totally off base?? LOL if I was Ill retract that statement, it just seemed like you were telling all lefties to deal with the bashing. I might have misunderstood.
Oh brother, how many times and ways do I have to state this? I'll type it S-L-O-W-L-Y this time so it'll sink in, ok??
1. Sir dyno posts (in all of the lefties' opinion, whines) that lefties never have to make any adjustments and that isn't fair;
2. SuperSaw chastises sir dyno by stating that he should "deal with it or shut up". All of the other lefties contributing to this thread (and some of the righties) agree with this sentiment;
3. a_ak57 offers the often-used lefty argument that while left-side conditions don't change as much or as quickly as right-side condition, this phenomena also has its drawbacks. Namely, that if the condition isn't all that wonderful on the left, it tends to stay not-too-wonderful since there usually isn't as much play on the left to break it down into something else;
4. I contend that lefties often use this argument to explain their inadequate bowling just as righties often use sir dyno's argument to explain theirs. While I would prefer to take the high road and just blow off such lefty rants, or maybe try to offer some insight as to why things like this happen, this is the Internet.
It's much more fun to stoop to the lowest common denominator and add fuel to the fire. Thus, I offer to lefties who whine about "our conditions don't change, so when (I say "if") it's tough out there, we're stuck playing on hard, sucky conditions the whole time, boo-hoo..." the same, uh, "advice" that SuperSaw does to whiny right-handers - to deal with it or shut up. Don't you think that's fair? Don't you lefties want to be treated equally? If you do, all I'm offering is equal treatment. Nothing more, nothing less.So, Wrongside, does this at all help you see that you aren't being told to shut up and deal with the bashing?
Post by: bowling9883 on November 01, 2005, 11:45:55 AM
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Post by: collegebowler on November 01, 2005, 01:47:23 PM
quote:Congratulations, but there is a slight flaw in your logic. You still only had 5 out of 10 guys on the left side, and righties would love to have that ratio. I bet all of the righties in the tournament had more than 5 guys on their side except for the ones on your pair, so you still didn't have to adjust as much as the average righty.
I’ve once bowled on a team that was all lefties and we won the tournament! Needless to say the righties didn’t have much to say about that. We took away their excuse!!! Did we have to make adjustments, of course but it wasn’t any big deal.
If I was equally talented with both hands, I would definitely bowl left handed. However, there is an advantage to bowling right handed. You get to watch others to see what lines are working, and you can play inside the track to create more area on a tough pattern. This becomes a disadvantage late in a tournament because everyone keeps trying to stay inside the oil line and you have to play 25 at the arrows to keep it on the lane. If a bowler is not comfortable making adjustments or playing deep, they would be better off on the left side.
Post by: DukeHarding on November 01, 2005, 04:58:55 PM
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I would definitely bowl left handed. However, there is an advantage to bowling right handed. You get to watch others to see what lines are working, and you can play inside the track to create more area on a tough pattern. This becomes a disadvantage late in a tournament because everyone keeps trying to stay inside the oil line and you have to play 25 at the arrows to keep it on the lane. If a bowler is not comfortable making adjustments or playing deep, they would be better off on the left side.
Where do the poor leftys go, after you've used up all their head oil?
Throw BBs across, what's left of your pattern?
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Post by: janderson on November 01, 2005, 05:06:32 PM
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Post by: collegebowler on November 01, 2005, 05:24:56 PM
quote:They usually switch to a less aggressive ball and continue to play outside 3rd arrow. I would rather bowl on burnt heads than a desert with lots of carrydown, although neither situation is ideal.quote:
I would definitely bowl left handed. However, there is an advantage to bowling right handed. You get to watch others to see what lines are working, and you can play inside the track to create more area on a tough pattern. This becomes a disadvantage late in a tournament because everyone keeps trying to stay inside the oil line and you have to play 25 at the arrows to keep it on the lane. If a bowler is not comfortable making adjustments or playing deep, they would be better off on the left side.
Where do the poor leftys go, after you've used up all their head oil?
Throw BBs across, what's left of your pattern?
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Post by: outdagutter on November 03, 2005, 08:25:07 PM
But as far as bowling lefties, to me it doesn't matter who it is, in my mind, I can take them.
Post by: outdagutter on November 03, 2005, 08:27:03 PM
But as far as bowling lefties, to me it doesn't matter who it is, in my mind, I can take them.
Post by: outdagutter on November 03, 2005, 08:27:58 PM
But as far as bowling lefties, to me it doesn't matter who it is, in my mind, I can take them.
Post by: DukeHarding on November 03, 2005, 08:52:23 PM
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But as far as bowling lefties, to me it doesn't matter who it is, in my mind, I can take them.
Post it again...
If you post it enough times, you may believe it.
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Post by: outdagutter on November 04, 2005, 12:09:22 AM
