Post by: Ragnar on October 04, 2006, 02:00:28 AM
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Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on October 04, 2006, 10:07:31 AM
What have the counter people said about it? If they don't do anything at that point, then I would say is there another place you can go to? There's a bunch of good places by me but only one has a really great approach for sliding.
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Post by: Atochabsh on October 04, 2006, 10:09:32 AM
Bowled in one house that was in very bad disrepair. The approaches were synthetic, but they were like a quilt. Made up of blocks of appraoch material. And they were not all level. Just happened that a raised seam was right on my 10 pin board. Tripped over it for a game and then just decided to move away from that board totally to avoid injury.
Until someone sues them and wins (which are two different things) you probably won't be able to get them to change their maintenance routine. And winning a law suit won't be easy since a lot of bowling alleys have a sign that says bowl at your own risk. Not that a measly sign would help them if you were badly injured, but just move over a bit and hopefully you'll find a more consistent approach area.
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Post by: Tweener92 on October 04, 2006, 11:03:51 AM
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Rags, I learned a long time ago to walk up on the approach to where I intend to slide and check to see if I will stick. That became part of my pre shot routine yrs ago.
One does have to time that action so as to not bother bowlers on either side of you. After that becomes part of your routine, other bowlers will begin to expect to see you do that and it poses no problem.
If I find an area that will cause me to stick, I either go to the desk or page them and request they come and clean that area. Thus far, I have never been refused.
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Post by: pin-chaser on October 04, 2006, 11:04:22 AM
I like to shoot the 10 sliding on the corner and looking at 23. But I fing on syntheics I have to slide 5 right of the corner and look at 20. I dont like it but I dont like sticking.
I have ordered some additional heals (made of leather) that should be delivered today that might help me with this problem for my dynaroo's. I will let you know.
For the record, I am a big guy, 260lbs and I apply a much larger force down when I slide. Anything remotely tacky completely destroys my physical game and I end up changing my timing completely to compensate. Adjusting my timing to a early timing helps me with sticky/tacky approaches.
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Post by: jimensminger on October 04, 2006, 12:17:45 PM
synthetic approaches were built for the centers not the bowlers,...they are the worst...be careful.
Post by: Pinbuster on October 04, 2006, 12:25:31 PM
I use a slide sock with a red leather heel. I only take them off if the approaches are like ice.
I would rather slide too much than stick and be thrown forward.
I’ve been surprised that houses have gotten away with synthetic approaches. Plus many have seams deep on the approach that you can hang up on.
They are so inconsistent and a safety hazard. You would have thought some lawsuits would get them away from using them.
It appears you either have to change your game to plant at the foul line or go to a heel sole combination that will always slide.
But even then you get surprises.
Sawbones while I do what you suggest on synthetics they sometimes will change during the session and I hate to test slide everytime. You’ll slide fine one time and then stick/slip on the next shot in that area.
Post by: Brickguy221 on October 04, 2006, 01:03:29 PM
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Post by: Ragnar on October 04, 2006, 01:24:09 PM
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Post by: se7en on October 04, 2006, 01:49:18 PM
The difference in quality of experience is night and day. With that said, try to find out who's above the center's management and write them a well thoughtout letter about the job the center's management is doing. Try to get others to do the same.
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Post by: Joe Jr on October 04, 2006, 01:57:39 PM
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Post by: Fluff E Bunnie on October 04, 2006, 03:05:18 PM
Why aren't we successful?!! Anyone? Bueller?
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Post by: Bluff on October 04, 2006, 03:13:51 PM
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Post by: 302efi on October 04, 2006, 03:15:57 PM
Plant your dam foot and rip the ball !
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Post by: JohnP on October 04, 2006, 03:31:39 PM
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Post by: charlest on October 04, 2006, 05:17:29 PM
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I used to have lots of problems with approaches, either sticky, slick, or sticky/slick in areas. Then about two years ago I bought my first Bowler/s Slide Sock (link below). Now I don't even test the approaches before I throw my first shot. I highly recommend this product. I learned about it at a Senior PBA tournament where quite a few of the bowlers were using it. Gary Dickinson gave me the web site address. -- JohnP
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Just bouught one. Unless I haven't worked the slide fibers enough to condition them, it doesn't make me slide any more than my Lind's EXXXTras with my homemade teflon cleats. I'll have to check in with Smash4-9 to see what he recommends.
Bob,
I hope you're feeling better this afternoon. Those falls can really hurt you. I don't check all along the foul line; a friend of mine has that problem: he'll slide fine for most of the area, but sticks badly when shooting 10 pins, sliding at the gutter edge.
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Post by: Smash49 on October 04, 2006, 06:29:50 PM
The best thing to do is to rub it into the carpet behind the bowler's area for about 4 or 5 minutes the first time you use it. It's not going to be really slick but will be consistent. You should be able to go just about anywhere and the feel will be the same. After a while it will become normal and you should not even notice any changes to the approach. People ask what it is equivilent to 6,8 or 10 sole and the answer is all of them! It should give the correct feel regardless of approach condition. That is what makes it different than the flannel socks. It maybe that it is equal to your home made solution but when you go to a different center it will adapt where the teflon will not.
Smash49
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Post by: JohnP on October 04, 2006, 09:34:09 PM
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Post by: Rabiddog135 on October 04, 2006, 09:44:05 PM
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Post by: newman891 on October 05, 2006, 04:05:06 AM
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These kids making 6 75 an hour dont know how to run the lane machine properly, AND they dont know how to wipe off the dust clumps up by the foul line. I can almost guarentee that is the problem. Where I bowl sometimes there is a pile of dust up by the foul line by the gutter cap.
I take alot of personal offense at that statement. I am 21 years old, been bowling and working in a bowling alley for 3 years. I strip, dust, and oil the lanes and am personally responsible for their keeping as well as the approaches attached thereto. I understand that dust accumulates and that it must be cleaned and taken care of. I apologize for any "kid making $6.75" that doesn't understand what his job entails...but perhaps you should be more apt to pointing the barrel of your aggression towards the OWNERS who lacked the foresight to accurately train such "kids". It isn't fair to be mad at people not doing the things they were never taught were necessary. But hey, I'm biased I suppose.
By the way, I don't even make $6.75.
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Post by: Smash49 on October 05, 2006, 07:12:11 AM
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Post by: charlest on October 05, 2006, 07:14:22 AM
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charlest -- What Smash49 said is exactly true. I don't bowl very often on synthetic approaches. But before I got the sock, every time I did I had problems, usually sticking. In one pro-am tournament I hopped at the end of every shot. With the sock, the first time or two I slide on a synthetic approach, it may feel a little different, but after two or three shots I can forget the approaches and concentrate on my game. I have since bowled in the house I mentioned above and didn't have any problem. -- JohnP
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John,
Funny you should mention this. On the synthetics around here, I usually worry more about slipping, not sticking ... until recently. I think as they wear, they get nicks, like the synth lane surface gets nicks, making the surface rougher. Unlike wood, the synths can't be sanded down back to smooth.
I only tried the Sock for a few frames. I'll definitely try to break it in some more and try it for a more than a few frames.
Live and learn. Thanx!
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Post by: LowRG on October 05, 2006, 07:35:08 AM
Summer, at least in my area means humidity, and with the synthetic approaches, this creates a big sticking problem. The workers in the center can do nothing to help you. Buffing the approaches results in the same problem, trust me, we did it.
And then, in the winter you will all be complaining that the approaches are too slippery. Dont agree? You watch. When the humidty on a barometer drops to under 40%, you will be able to slide to the pin deck.
Personally, I am tired of complaints. Every day i hear something in the summer, when its 95* out and 90% humidity. Deal with it. Why do you think Dexter has interchangable slide soles, along with EVERY OTHER SHOE MANUFACTURER? They are meant to be changed for a reason.
Post by: FBM357 on October 05, 2006, 07:52:31 AM
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charlest -- What Smash49 said is exactly true. I don't bowl very often on synthetic approaches. But before I got the sock, every time I did I had problems, usually sticking. In one pro-am tournament I hopped at the end of every shot. With the sock, the first time or two I slide on a synthetic approach, it may feel a little different, but after two or three shots I can forget the approaches and concentrate on my game. I have since bowled in the house I mentioned above and didn't have any problem. -- JohnP
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John,
Funny you should mention this. On the synthetics around here, I usually worry more about slipping, not sticking ... until recently. I think as they wear, they get nicks, like the synth lane surface gets nicks, making the surface rougher. Unlike wood, the synths can't be sanded down back to smooth.
I only tried the Sock for a few frames. I'll definitely try to break it in some more and try it for a more than a few frames.
Live and learn. Thanx!
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Hey Charlest,
I ordered 'bowler slide sock' from Rob (Smash49) and have been using it for nearly a year now. It's great! Very consistent. Just do as instructed to break it in (i.e. scuff/rub it on some carpet a few times). I grew very tired of constantly changing the soles on my SST LX 6's and dealing with different approaches (i.e. left lane may be stickier than right and so on). Must say, I haven't come across an approach the sock couldn't handle! Good stuff!
BTW, do not, I repeat, do not bowl with it in 'OOB' condition!!! Like stepping out the shower on marble floors = OUCH!!!
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Post by: JohnP on October 05, 2006, 11:03:08 AM
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I only tried the Sock for a few frames. I'll definitely try to break it in some more and try it for a more than a few frames.
charlest -- When I first got my sock, it did take about two or three games for me to get used to it. I scuffed it on the carpet as the instructions say, but when I slid on it the first time it seemed slick. About three games later I had gotten used to it. After a year I turned it inside out and went through the scuffing again. When I slid on it the first time, it felt great. After another year I bought another one, and it was the same as when I turned the first one inside out. So it was just a matter of me getting used to a little easier slide than with the sole of my Linds Customs. -- JohnP