I was looking for a list of coaches in my area, just being curious to who they are.

Then I found this....

http://bowl.com/TheCore/Info/

I've decided you guys are right...growing membership in our great game is stupid.

 
As usual, your response is to take things to the silly extreme, and then use the opportunity to take more shots at the USBC.
 
Of course we want growth in membership. That's not in question. What is in question are your proposed solutions. Especially at the 'franchisee' level, they show a fundamental lack of understanding of business/marketing. If you'd accept this reality, maybe there could be some reasonable discussion. Unfortunately, I think you'd rather moan and complain.

Quote from: morpheus on November 02, 2016, 07:39:41 PM

I've decided you guys are right...growing membership in our great game is stupid.

 
As usual, your response is to take things to the silly extreme, and then use the opportunity to take more shots at the USBC.
 
Of course we want growth in membership. That's not in question. What is in question are your proposed solutions. Especially at the 'franchisee' level, they show a fundamental lack of understanding of business/marketing. If you'd accept this reality, maybe there could be some reasonable discussion. Unfortunately, I think you'd rather moan and complain.

I completely understand the concept I proposed, what exactly is it about the franchise concept you disagree with because it's the same thing practiced by many organizations?

Quote from: morpheus on November 02, 2016, 07:39:41 PM

I've decided you guys are right...growing membership in our great game is stupid. In fact we need less people which fortunately for us has happened every year for three decades due to socioeconomic changes. In fact, I'm now convinced other sports have suffered similar organized membership declines approaching 80% just like bowling. It does seem odd that other professional sports don't seem to be paying their athletes less than in the 1980's like bowling, but I'm going to just dismiss that since it's not relevant. I'm so glad you guys set me straight with your logical reasoning and powers of deduction, I just purchased my membership in The Core and am heading down to join a league. Well, I was going join a league, but then I realized we don't want to grow membership so I went to an online forum to convince people to join unsanctioned leagues...and we have now come full circle.

You're welcome, glad we could clear that up for you. Carry on.

It's rather liberating not being constrained by logic or common sense...no matter what anyone says I just tell them they're wrong. It's almost like I'm eight years old again!

We noticed...

Thanks, I do a pretty good miloraffery imitation...

Sorry, but there is no substitute for the real thing.

I found a new profile picture for you...

Quote from: spmcgivern on October 31, 2016, 08:05:03 AM

I have yet to hear a valid reason to even raise membership.

Just summarizing comments made by others on this thread.

This was directed at your assumption the number of members in USBC dictates the success of it.  The USBC should be judged at the services it provides its members.  If you want to receive those benefits, then you become a member.  If not, you don't. 

I agree having more members makes costs cheaper.  But what do you think the cost to actively acquire one member is?  It isn't free.  It isn't cheap.  Yet you want USBC to devote huge funds to try and acquire more members, and I am sure you would be so supportive of whatever method they choose. 

You already have a group of people who look at league bowling in a more negative light than in the past in the proprietors.  Bowling centers have been devoting more lanes and more time to recreational bowling and less to leagues bowling.  (My first experience was Rock 'n Bowl in the 80s)  This will inherently reduce league membership.  But that is USBC's fault somehow.

Centers have to make money to be in business.  My bowling center makes more money with 1/2 the house full of open play than it does on a full house league.  My center won't even allow leagues to take the whole house anymore.  So that is what the proprietor will try to achieve.  Gone are the days of leagues paying the bills and open play being your profit.  It takes a combined effort to stay afloat.

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You already have a group of people who look at league bowling in a more negative light than in the past in the proprietors.  Bowling centers have been devoting more lanes and more time to recreational bowling and less to leagues bowling.  (My first experience was Rock 'n Bowl in the 80s)  This will inherently reduce league membership.  But that is USBC's fault somehow.

It is USBC's and Manufacturers fault. Simple Reason. Money. It is much cheaper to purchase sound equipment and lights than to have a high quality lane oil machine. League bowlers want to use their big hook monsters. When the lanes dry up and scores go down, the league bowler complains. Rock n' Bowl is pretty simple, play loud music. Nobody cares about lane conditions.

The ball companies are just producing the product their customers demand.