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splendorlex

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If you could completely start over, how would you do it?
« on: November 04, 2019, 04:09:20 PM »
I made a similar post a couple of years back, but never really went beyond that.

I bowled regularly from roughly 2002 until about 2011. I bowled both in regular old mens leagues, and also bowled in the ABT. (I even won a couple of tournaments, but my handicap helped!) I elected to give up bowling to save on money, but 7 years later things are much better in that regard, and I often start to think about getting back into bowling.

I had some bad habits, and I'm hoping that perhaps the layoff will give me a good opportunity to fix them. If you could start the whole thing over, how would you go about it? Would you start with some lessons before anything else?

 

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Re: If you could completely start over, how would you do it?
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2019, 04:33:43 PM »
I made a similar post a couple of years back, but never really went beyond that.

I bowled regularly from roughly 2002 until about 2011. I bowled both in regular old mens leagues, and also bowled in the ABT. (I even won a couple of tournaments, but my handicap helped!) I elected to give up bowling to save on money, but 7 years later things are much better in that regard, and I often start to think about getting back into bowling.

I had some bad habits, and I'm hoping that perhaps the layoff will give me a good opportunity to fix them. If you could start the whole thing over, how would you go about it? Would you start with some lessons before anything else?

Shoes and lessons are a good start for sure.  A good coach can help you find the equipment (balls, etc) that will work best for you.

(edit:  If I started over I would drill everything finger tip to start with and buy maybe one urethane ball instead of the mini arsenal I currently have).
« Last Edit: November 05, 2019, 05:19:35 PM by BowlingForDonuts »
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Re: If you could completely start over, how would you do it?
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2019, 06:53:48 PM »
Started because it was fun, stayed because it was challenging.

Should’ve just let it stayed in the fun category.

When I got too serious, it was more like a job than it was fun.

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Re: If you could completely start over, how would you do it?
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2019, 02:53:04 PM »
Would have used equipment that properly fit my hand when I was a youth instead of throwing my dad's hand me downs as a teenager.  Developed some bad habits trying to make old equipment hook and got used to having to squeeze to hold on to the bowling ball.
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Re: If you could completely start over, how would you do it?
« Reply #4 on: November 08, 2019, 09:55:33 AM »
When I started bowling in 80s as a kid and learning how to hook the ball, my father taught me how throw a full roller, which was the preferred roll in the 60s.  It took me some time to transition to semi-roller, but the damage was done.  Ultimately, I ended up more on the side with massive rotation and not under the ball with moderate/average rotation.  It's something I have worked on but it just doesn't feel comfortable or right.

If I could start over, I would have built the muscle memory needed for getting better leverage from the start.

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Re: If you could completely start over, how would you do it?
« Reply #5 on: November 08, 2019, 10:10:55 AM »
I would have been born left-handed.....  :P  :P  :P
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Re: If you could completely start over, how would you do it?
« Reply #6 on: November 08, 2019, 02:38:15 PM »
Buy a White Dot for my first custom ball, not a Vector One. Pretty sure it was way too much ball so I could get away with high tilt/rotation instead of just rolling it forward. Didn't work well with reactives.

Now trying to get a better roll but it takes effort and is inconsistent.
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Re: If you could completely start over, how would you do it?
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2019, 04:08:10 AM »
Starting over? Like with BowlingForDonuts, I would start with learning how to roll the ball fingertip on day 1, and get a coach. - Pretty happy rolling 15lbs, and I fear 16lbs would just wear me out.

My teenage years was averaging 150 with an old 16lb conventional drilled Turquoise Hammer plastic ball. Had to fight a lot of bad habits; The usual: Squeezing the ball, pulling on the back swing and on the down swing. Going for speed and accuracy than learning how to roll the ball.

Its more fun rolling the ball and watching it arch into the pocket than chucking it down the second or first arrow.  :P

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Re: If you could completely start over, how would you do it?
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2019, 05:09:07 AM »
Oh, so I'm not the only one given some really bad conventional grip ball growing up.

What do I have to show for it, and trying to make it work and hook, well years to unlearn bad habits (still doing that like 25 - 30 years later. Oh, two broken fingers (diagnosed years after the fact by my anatomy teacher, why are my fingers crooked and can't bend them).

Finally just gave up on bowling with my thumb. I can't hold ball  that way, and suspect my two broken fingers may have something to do with it. Not sure.

Start w/ lessons, and learn to bowl how you want to. That would be so much easier than working to  unlearn stuff.

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Re: If you could completely start over, how would you do it?
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2019, 06:51:20 PM »
I think that I would have learned the two handed delivery as it seems to me to be such an advantage from the standpoint of getting so much pin action and it seems to me that you don't have to be as accurate with hitting your target.
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Re: If you could completely start over, how would you do it?
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2019, 07:56:11 PM »
I agree that most 2 handers have more than average revs and therefore they do get more pin action than at least me.
However, I disagree that they don't have to be accurate.  Most of the local 2 handers are very inaccurate due to being off balance during the delivery.  And as such they are "spraying shots" all over the lanes and their averages are nothing to write home about.
Those who have mastered the 2 handed delivery are extremely accurate and their averages prove it.

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Re: If you could completely start over, how would you do it?
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2019, 11:03:35 AM »
When I started bowling in 80s as a kid and learning how to hook the ball, my father taught me how throw a full roller, which was the preferred roll in the 60s.  It took me some time to transition to semi-roller, but the damage was done.  Ultimately, I ended up more on the side with massive rotation and not under the ball with moderate/average rotation.  It's something I have worked on but it just doesn't feel comfortable or right.

If I could start over, I would have built the muscle memory needed for getting better leverage from the start.

I'm a full roller too, and have had much success, and some serious sadness on the lanes. I never worried too much about it at all. The only annoying thing is answering the full roller drilling question over and over, and over again.

As far as what I would do if I were to start over....I'd learn to cut down my angles more, bowl a little straighter. While I can do it, it's definitely not my strength today. I grew up learning while Mark Roth came on the scene, so we all wanted to crank it up.