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BigBaller

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Why a 1:30 drilling???
« on: December 19, 2009, 04:00:49 AM »
O.K. i have been bowling for 25 years and i used to spend more time practicing and caring how i bowled. I never got into the specifics or the little intracacies of bowling, i just roll the ball and i adjust to the pattern that is there.
Every ball i have is drilled 1:30.
I have:
1) Scorchin Inferno
2) Angular One
3) The one
4) Hammer Big Block Diesel
5) Storm Natural

Every thing is very even except for my angular. I am not trying to be a proffesional, just have fun and enjoy a little success here and there. I love bowling nationals...


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Re: Why a 1:30 drilling???
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2009, 12:22:52 PM »
A 1:30 drilling, also called label leverage, is considered to be a utilitarian drill that is "flare safe", which means it puts the holes in places where it is very unlikely to roll over them.  It GENERALLY is a smoother reaction because it USUALLY puts the pin reasonably closer to your pap than other drillings.

 While it is an adequate drilling in most cases, having every ball you own with the same drilling limits your reaction shapes, especially on a house shot where many balls react the same anyway.

 Have a good proshop check your pap and talk about the possibilities of different drillings and how they would effect a change in your ball reaction before just spending a bunch of money experimenting.
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Re: Why a 1:30 drilling???
« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2009, 10:10:37 AM »
1:30, 3 o'clock and 430...  "are the times of day" <<<  Mo Pinel

But what Jag said is pretty much on the money... However most of those "older" drilling's had the MB in or near the track...  While today you may still see the pin at what looks like 1:30, >> forgive me Mo... But the MB's are placed in stronger positions.

But the single most important thing today is to clean your ball....and maintain the cover stock...

Cause I don't care who drills your ball or where the pin is,  if you don't maintain the cover, you ball will be short lived...
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DON DRAPER

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Re: Why a 1:30 drilling???
« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2009, 12:27:24 PM »
i''ll take a ball drilled 1:30 all the time provided the surface of the ball matches the lane condition. i can adjust everything else( speed control, axis rotation, angle of attack, etc ).

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dizzyfugu

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Re: Why a 1:30 drilling???
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2009, 06:15:19 AM »
Label leverage has its selling point - main thing is that the ball driller can punch a ball up without much risk. The ball will hook, with littel effort for both driller and player, and everyone is happy.

It is therefore a good beginner setup, because you can do it without knowing a PAP as reference.

Another selling point is the reaction you get: smooth hook, strong midlane read, tame back end. Ideal for beginners because the ball won't run away on the back end.

The drawbacks:
You have little back end, and the break point is early. On short or thin oil you can get into trouble with rolling out. Length can become a problem.

I would not put such a layout on a strong mass bias ball. For a high tracker its puts the MB into the track area, and the result can be a funky reaction, even flaring backwards. On symmetrical core balls, this is no issue.

As juggernaut put it, the label setup is a utilarian solution. You cannot do much wrong, but it offers IMHO little benefits, esp. if you want to exploit a ball's characteristics or need a ball that handles a special condition. A whole arsenal is IMHO not a very smart approach, it would not be very versatile, or at least more limited than necessary.
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Re: Why a 1:30 drilling???
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2009, 09:55:36 AM »
As others have mentioned, the problem with the clock system in general is that it doesn't use the customer's PAP location.  "Pin at 1:30 by the ring finger" can be weak for a low tracker and strong for a high tracker.  We have systems that base the layout on the customer's PAP and should use them.  The only time I would use the clock system is when a customer is changing from either a house ball or a conventional grip to a fingertip grip.  Then it's a guess where the PAP on the new grip will end up. And I usually recommend an entry level reactive resin ball with a pancake core to this type customer, so layout isn't so important.  --  JohnP

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Re: Why a 1:30 drilling???
« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2009, 06:04:50 PM »
Every ball i have ever had has been drilled 1:30. I have never had a problem with it. On dry lanes i get into trouble, i get to much in the mids. The guy that drills my stuff is one of the better in the area i live in, he was a regional pro and most in my area go to him. I trust him as he has drilled the last 10-15 balls for me. He has told me i don't really need anything more than that.
I only carry a 205-215 average on a typical house shot, i was at 195 in the PBA expierience league last year.
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Re: Why a 1:30 drilling???
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2009, 07:05:57 AM »
Yes, depending on one's PAP it can be a strong drilling for some and a weak drilling for others. If it works for you great but it's not for everyone.
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BigBaller

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Re: Why a 1:30 drilling???
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2009, 06:37:02 PM »
My pap is 5 1/4 over 1/2 up.
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Re: Why a 1:30 drilling???
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2009, 10:29:15 PM »
So for you that's probably about a 4 1/2" pin to PAP, fairly strong.  But for someone with a PAP of 4" over and 1 1/2" up it would probably be about a 2" pin to PAP, fairly weak.  --  JohnP