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Title: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: BeerLeague on August 01, 2019, 07:02:10 AM
My Wed nite league starts Aug 22nd ...... The LAST thing I want to do in August is be inside a bowling alley.  34 weeks -- UGH.  After 30 years of this stuff, I'm almost ready to hang it up.  The issue is, once it gets cold, dark and nasty outside I will miss it.

Why can leagues start when we roll the clocks back and end when we roll them forward -- that would be perfect.  8)

Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: Bowl_Freak on August 01, 2019, 08:10:23 AM
Find a league to meet your criteria. Good luck though. I always look forward to the start of the league but after about 20 weeks in going to the same place week in and week out, i'm ready to be done also but that's why they have travel leagues and I'm bowling 2 this season.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: earlyrolling on August 01, 2019, 09:12:54 AM
34 weeks is ridiculous. It ought to be split in half into 2 seasons - 17 weeks each.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: HankScorpio on August 01, 2019, 09:21:39 AM
Can’t wait.

Sure, sometimes it’s tedious doing the same thing 30 weeks in a row, but I’ve got some of my best friends on my two teams. I look forward to having an excuse/opportunity to see them every week.

Bowling is supposed to be fun. If it’s not, quit.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on August 01, 2019, 09:28:12 AM

I'm ready.  After barely picking up a ball all summer it's time to re-visit my footwork, practice, and get going.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: milorafferty on August 01, 2019, 09:29:46 AM
I'm looking forward to it this year more than usual. There have been years where I considered not bowling due to my work schedule, but I'm ready to go this time.

If/when it gets to the point of "dreading" the start of league, I will be done bowling.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: kiefenstien on August 01, 2019, 10:00:07 AM
I'm in 3 leagues that are 33 weeks longs.
All the leagues are talking about going to 28 weeks and even a couple leagues are talking about going to a 4 man teams.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: mrwizerd on August 01, 2019, 10:36:48 AM
I'm looking forward to leagues starting up again...to either find out how many bad habits I picked up from bowling a challenge league this summer or finding out how much the challenge league helped me.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: leftybowler70 on August 01, 2019, 11:13:07 AM
Good question. Life definitely has happened to me this season where it’s been more challenging than ever to continue to bowl on a consistent basis.   But after getting my life in order slowly little by little, I feel I’m ready to get back out there, although I wonder how much do I have left in the tank.

But as a few of you mentioned, (milo) you’ll know when it’s time to hang em up, but these old bones still have it in them.  ;D
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: mainzer on August 01, 2019, 11:13:39 AM
Always look forward to starting
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: SVstar34 on August 01, 2019, 11:55:55 AM
Not really dreading, but going through grip changes and still need to plug and re-drill a few balls
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: northface28 on August 01, 2019, 12:16:40 PM
My favorite time of the year is the last night. I like bowling, I HATE league.  Slow bowling, guys/gals taking some breaks between games,etc its just exhausting. My teammates know what they're getting, I will pay for the full season and maybe show up half the time. Certain teams stress me out, I simply wont bowl against them. I bowl on Monday nights and I will not miss monday night football to bowl. Inclement weather? Im not risking life or limb to bowl 3 games of league. If it wasnt a sport league I wouldnt go at all. I stopped bowling house shot leagues 4 years ago and I could not be happier.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: ignitebowling on August 01, 2019, 12:31:28 PM
Not at all.  Its a 20 week scratch doubles league that starts in September.  We bowl four games and are in and out in about 2 hours.

Can't wait for it to start…… laughing at the 36 week leagues starting up this week and next. Enjoy that 9 month grind
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: northface28 on August 01, 2019, 12:39:55 PM
Not at all.  Its a 20 week scratch doubles league that starts in September.  We bowl four games and are in and out in about 2 hours.

Can't wait for it to start…… laughing at the 36 week leagues starting up this week and next. Enjoy that 9 month grind


I need a league like this. The grind of all those weeks, 4 man teams, starting at 7:30 not getting done until 10:30/11, Im exhausted just thinking about it.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: Impending Doom on August 01, 2019, 03:56:34 PM
I haven't bowled league in years. Career, kids, wife, all take enough of my time to not want to go get murdered in brackets by some nozzles. I would join a sport shot league, or a mixed league with my wife.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: BowlingForDonuts on August 01, 2019, 04:28:32 PM
Yeah my league starting sooner than I want but glad season is long as I only bowl it for the league card and the cheap open bowling rate.  Pre-bowl most weeks anyway (just for fun triples league).  Saves me a ton of money.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: tunaman4u2 on August 01, 2019, 04:33:04 PM
We had a summer league from July 11th to September 11th on Sunday nights in Boston area

Damn right I passed on that. I don't ski or bowl in the summer
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: Steven on August 01, 2019, 05:37:06 PM
My Wed nite league starts Aug 22nd ...... The LAST thing I want to do in August is be inside a bowling alley.  34 weeks -- UGH.  After 30 years of this stuff, I'm almost ready to hang it up.  The issue is, once it gets cold, dark and nasty outside I will miss it.

Why can leagues start when we roll the clocks back and end when we roll them forward -- that would be perfect.  8)

Perfect for you, but not the proprietor who has to keep the doors open year round.
 
If one of my teammates was on the fence like you, I'd encourage him to pass. I only want to bowl with people who want to be there, and want to win.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: ignitebowling on August 01, 2019, 06:19:04 PM
Not at all.  Its a 20 week scratch doubles league that starts in September.  We bowl four games and are in and out in about 2 hours.

Can't wait for it to start…… laughing at the 36 week leagues starting up this week and next. Enjoy that 9 month grind


I need a league like this. The grind of all those weeks, 4 man teams, starting at 7:30 not getting done until 10:30/11, Im exhausted just thinking about it.

Exactly. Even worse with 5 men leagues. 

USBC and proprietors can't figure out why leagues are shrinking
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: Gill Man on August 01, 2019, 07:26:53 PM
I always look forward to the start of league season.
Our Tuesday night league has 54 5-man teams this year, with 3 or 4 current or former PBA bowlers and a high number of top quality bowlers. Should make for a very competitive league. This will be the largest league I've ever bowled in - last year it was 46 teams.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: northface28 on August 01, 2019, 09:37:03 PM
I always look forward to the start of league season.
Our Tuesday night league has 54 5-man teams this year, with 3 or 4 current or former PBA bowlers and a high number of top quality bowlers. Should make for a very competitive league. This will be the largest league I've ever bowled in - last year it was 46 teams.

Where do you live?
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: bcw1969 on August 01, 2019, 09:55:46 PM
Our anchor man may not be returning but I am still looking forward to the start of the season. made an inventive change to my bowling over the summer and really want to see how I do. Last season our Thursday nite mixed league filled up all 56 lanes....during the spring we became an amf/bowlero center, but I am told we will have at least mid-high 40's for teams..so that's neat.

Brad
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: Jesse James on August 01, 2019, 11:13:57 PM
I always look forward to the start of league season.
Our Tuesday night league has 54 5-man teams this year, with 3 or 4 current or former PBA bowlers and a high number of top quality bowlers. Should make for a very competitive league. This will be the largest league I've ever bowled in - last year it was 46 teams.

I must be a wierdo or something! I'm with you! I always look forward to the start of  league season!

I will tell you this though......one of my 5 leagues has only 32 weeks in it, and that is very satisfying!
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: jumba98 on August 02, 2019, 03:56:17 AM
Your not weird man, I can't wait to start. I bowl a 3 man scratch league that has 4 seven week quarters, and a 4 man travel league with 33 weeks. 3 months off is plenty!
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: Bowlaholic on August 02, 2019, 05:46:01 AM
Steven quoted "If one of my teammates was on the fence like you, I'd encourage him to pass.  I only want to bowl with people who want to be there, and want to win."
Could not have said it better myself. 
I can't wait for the start of the season (August 21st.)  We took second place (both halves) last season.  First place is on our radar for this season, so the team is super pumped. Let's get it on!
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: Good Times Good Times on August 02, 2019, 08:27:32 AM
Eh, for me........it's yes and no.

I dread the time where it gets dark at like 4:30PM and I get home from work, take care of things, then head out when it "feels" like it's midnight but it's only like 6:20 or so.

I do enjoy a lot of the people I bowl with.  I've bowled with one of the best bowlers in NKY/Cincy history (a HOF'er) for something like 15-16 years now and I try not to take that for granted. 

I do wish league were on sport conditions or was a traveling league, that would be fun.  I haven't done that since the youth days.

My Friday team is moving houses.  Smaller 16 lane house but there are some players and $ in play.....I like that.  Change of scenery will be nice.

So, for me, there are pros and cons.  I truly see both sides on this topic.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: billdozer on August 02, 2019, 07:48:07 PM
Post labor day, end on April 1stish.... The only issue with that is I don't like to go to Nationals until May and when League stop I get out of practice quick.... Especially like timing-wise.


But yes I'm dreading the startup. 😂😂
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: Gill Man on August 02, 2019, 08:06:51 PM
I always look forward to the start of league season.
Our Tuesday night league has 54 5-man teams this year, with 3 or 4 current or former PBA bowlers and a high number of top quality bowlers. Should make for a very competitive league. This will be the largest league I've ever bowled in - last year it was 46 teams.

Where do you live?

Northface,
I live on the southeast side of Indianapolis.
The league is Double Deuce at Expo Bowl on the southside of Indy.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: Bowler19525 on August 02, 2019, 10:24:07 PM
I don't dread the bowling part.

I do dread dealing with people on the league who forget their primary task is to bowl when it is their turn.  It is pretty simple.  When your name comes up, get up and bowl.  Your teammates, food, drinks, and phone will be waiting for you when you get done with your frame.  Bowling wouldn't take 3 hours if people are ready to go when it is their turn.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: itsallaboutme on August 03, 2019, 06:17:00 AM
Being ready isn't getting up from your table on the concourse when it's your turn.  Being ready is greeting your teammate as they come off the approach. 
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: Bowler19525 on August 03, 2019, 07:38:46 AM
Being ready isn't getting up from your table on the concourse when it's your turn.  Being ready is greeting your teammate as they come off the approach. 

I agree.  But at this point I would just settle for people just getting up when it is their turn.  It is becoming quite an epidemic at my bowling center.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: northface28 on August 03, 2019, 08:13:47 AM
Being ready isn't getting up from your table on the concourse when it's your turn.  Being ready is greeting your teammate as they come off the approach. 

Yep. I’m at the ball return before the arrows hit my name, I’m there to bowl, not jerk off.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: Metal_rules on August 03, 2019, 11:10:34 AM
I don't dread it at all. But at the moment I am only full time in 1 league, I will sub in a few others. With my work schedule, I have to get up at 4:30am, so I wont bowl in any leagues that finish after 10:30pm. I am also at the point where I would rather bowl on a sport condition league instead of the house shot and be challenged instead of it being  a carry contest. Anyways let the season begin, oh wait, I did bowl all summer in a trio league. I am ready to go.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: Impending Doom on August 03, 2019, 07:24:14 PM
You know, I just found out that a center in town is offering a scratch sport league. Spoke with my wife, and got the OK to shoe up. Honestly, this is the only way I'd consider bowling league. I need to get back into bowling shape, and a sport shot is perfect. Now it's motivation to hit the gym and really assess arsenal choices.

I love having to think. :)
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: SG17 on August 03, 2019, 07:39:50 PM
I don't dread the bowling part.

I do dread dealing with people on the league who forget their primary task is to bowl when it is their turn.  It is pretty simple.  When your name comes up, get up and bowl.  Your teammates, food, drinks, and phone will be waiting for you when you get done with your frame.  Bowling wouldn't take 3 hours if people are ready to go when it is their turn.


My sport league is the 2nd league of the night; following a womens league.  The ladies in this league have 2 or 3 teams that never finish on-time unless they are short a bowler or 2.  God help us if 2 of those teams are facing each other; we could start an hour late. 


Our proprietor, to his credit, has done everything in his power to speed them and us up such that we are starting and finishing on time.  his efforts actually started to make a difference in the women finishing their league on time last year; so I hope it continues to improve.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: Bowlaholic on August 04, 2019, 06:36:29 AM
I couldn't help notice that many of you mentioned being excited about an upcoming sport shot league.  I was jealous.
Just picked up the fall league flyer from one of our two centers and guess what?  This fall a trios sport shot league will be offered on Thursday nights.
I'm in for sure; but will have to drop from one of the two THS leagues I was going to bowl in. 
Keeping the THS league where our team is very competitive for a first place finish and now the sport shot league.  Life is good in the bowling world!
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: themagician on August 04, 2019, 09:21:28 AM
I couldn't help notice that many of you mentioned being excited about an upcoming sport shot league.  I was jealous.
Just picked up the fall league flyer from one of our two centers and guess what?  This fall a trios sport shot league will be offered on Thursday nights.
I'm in for sure; but will have to drop from one of the two THS leagues I was going to bowl in. 
Keeping the THS league where our team is very competitive for a first place finish and now the sport shot league.  Life is good in the bowling world!


That's the best balance, when I was in college the local house had a sport league I did and I bowled a THS league just to get my confidence back!

Now where i'm at I bowl a league in each of the two houses closest to me, but neither are hard. Fortunately North Central Illinois to Chicago area has quite a few regular tournaments on sport patterns to get a little variety in.

Back to topic, I'm excited about league this year, had my best league year ever two years ago, got too busy in life and it showed this past year as I regressed, and now i've found myself practicing a bit this summer and really looking forward to fall leagues this year.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: rvmark on August 04, 2019, 03:59:03 PM
I am ready for league to start next month.  We finish PBA league this week and will have a 4 week layoff until fall league starts, the big upside of bowling the PBA league this summer was improving my spare shooting.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: LookingForALeftyWall on August 05, 2019, 11:34:29 AM
Not dreading the start of league - it's finding 2 bowlers who average around 200 so my team can fit under an 845 cap in a "highly competitive" league.  It's has not been as easy as I'd hoped it would be...

Which brings me to....if the league is being billed as "highly competitive", how do you have an 845 cap for 4? In this era of scoring, the cap's too low.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: milorafferty on August 05, 2019, 11:47:08 AM
Not dreading the start of league - it's finding 2 bowlers who average around 200 so my team can fit under an 845 cap in a "highly competitive" league.  It's has not been as easy as I'd hoped it would be...

Which brings me to....if the league is being billed as "highly competitive", how do you have an 845 cap for 4? In this era of scoring, the cap's too low.

I've bowled 5 man scratch leagues where the cap was 850. It makes the league more fun AND more competitive in my opinion. I also think it's good for the future of bowling to get more of the 170-180 folks into bowling scratch.

Just my opinion...
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: LookingForALeftyWall on August 05, 2019, 01:52:28 PM
Not dreading the start of league - it's finding 2 bowlers who average around 200 so my team can fit under an 845 cap in a "highly competitive" league.  It's has not been as easy as I'd hoped it would be...

Which brings me to....if the league is being billed as "highly competitive", how do you have an 845 cap for 4? In this era of scoring, the cap's too low.

I've bowled 5 man scratch leagues where the cap was 850. It makes the league more fun AND more competitive in my opinion. I also think it's good for the future of bowling to get more of the 170-180 folks into bowling scratch.

Just my opinion...

Was this recently (last 5 years)?  Also, an 850 for 5 scratch league, on a houseshot sounds inconceivable (170 a man? doesn't sound right)....maybe you meant 1050 for 5? or 850 for 4?
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: milorafferty on August 05, 2019, 02:02:28 PM
No, it was 850 for 5. You could only fit one maybe 2 bowlers with a 200 average. Everyone else had to make the 850 so they would have some 130/140 bowlers. The teams that did the best seemed to be the ones with their highest bowler being a 180 guy and a couple of 160's and 170's.

Still there last time I checked. Defiantly 850 for five person teams. It was a lot of fun, but my average is too high to make a competitive team. Plus, it's a day league with mostly seniors.

Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: LookingForALeftyWall on August 05, 2019, 02:30:47 PM
That's just crazy talk!!!   :o :o ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: milorafferty on August 05, 2019, 02:40:40 PM
I think Dublin bowl still has their 990 scratch league, known as the Dublin Majors. It's five per team and it's probably the biggest league for that house.

850 for five is a hard one to make, unless the average age is 65+. Then it becomes a lot easier. The one season I bowled it, if you averaged 200 or more, everyone seemed to wish you would just go away. Even your own team.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: Steven on August 05, 2019, 03:34:54 PM

I've bowled 5 man scratch leagues where the cap was 850. It makes the league more fun AND more competitive in my opinion. I also think it's good for the future of bowling to get more of the 170-180 folks into bowling scratch.

Just my opinion...

 
Our Scratch Trio league is capped down to 625 this year. The surfaces are wearing out and taking their toll even on THS averages. Second shift when we bowl can be a real adventure.
 
But I agree the capped scratch format is great for bowling, especially when it forces you to bring in lower average folks. In many cases they work harder to get better.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: themagician on August 05, 2019, 03:37:38 PM

I've bowled 5 man scratch leagues where the cap was 850. It makes the league more fun AND more competitive in my opinion. I also think it's good for the future of bowling to get more of the 170-180 folks into bowling scratch.

Just my opinion...

 
Our Scratch Trio league is capped down to 625 this year. The surfaces are wearing out and taking their toll even on THS averages. Second shift when we bowl can be a real adventure.
 
But I agree the capped scratch format is great for bowling, especially when it forces you to bring in lower average folks. In many cases they work harder to get better.

The only scratch league in my area is a 5 man one with a 1050 cap. Some things have happened in recent years and the house isn't as high scoring as it once was (still the highest scoring house in the area though). The league has adopted a draft, and just to get some balance in it there is always some nice rotations of new bowlers joining.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: TDC57 on August 06, 2019, 07:58:53 PM
At the end of last season I had pretty much decided I was done. After battling wrist issues for the last two years and bowling in a league that started at 7:30 and got done around 10:20 I felt worn down. I have bowled in leagues for 46 years, since I was 15 and loved every minute of it. As soon as league night was over I couldn't wait until next week. But, this past year had taken it's toll. On the final night of our league tournament I tried an older 14lb ball and boy what a difference. Practiced a couple of times and decided to make a bold change. I sold every 15lb ball I had and bought two new 14s and now have a decent 3 ball arsenal. I can't wait for league to start. They are going to discuss an earlier start time at our meeting but I'm not hopeful about having that happen and getting done earlier. Plus, we had a helluva time having 5 bowlers every week. That has to change or I'll be bowling on a different team next year.
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: rmclachlan on August 07, 2019, 04:20:21 PM
I wish our league was shorter.  Right now it is 37 weeks at 35 bucks a week.  It is a super fun league and we appear to be growing again about being down for the last 10 years or so, but it can be a grind at times.  Right now we are at 815 for 4 so it is always a challenge to get the right mix of people to be successful.   But as the last remaining scratch league within a 30 min drive, hopefully, we can keep it going. 
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: batbowler on August 07, 2019, 08:46:25 PM
My Wed nite league starts Aug 22nd ...... The LAST thing I want to do in August is be inside a bowling alley.  34 weeks -- UGH.  After 30 years of this stuff, I'm almost ready to hang it up.  The issue is, once it gets cold, dark and nasty outside I will miss it.

Why can leagues start when we roll the clocks back and end when we roll them forward -- that would be perfect.  8)


That would be the 21st when your league starts. We start the same night for 33 weeks!
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: Bowlaholic on August 07, 2019, 10:01:24 PM
We start August 21st for 37 weeks, with two weeks off for the holidays (Xmas/New Years).  Let's get it on!
Title: Re: Is anyone else dreading the start of leagues?
Post by: hammajangs on August 08, 2019, 12:35:14 PM
We are 1/3 of the way through our season and I'm jumping ship at the end of August.  Our high school season matches (I'm a coach) is at the same time as my league nights, so I will be missing 3 months of bowling that I would have to pay for and have a sub bowl for free. In mid-November, I'm getting a work promotion, so I don't know what my schedule will be, so I found a replacement, and I'm out. 

I really haven't been having much fun due to recovering from hand surgery, and team mates showing up late all the time (for stupid reasons) and dragging *ss all night, holding everyone up and finishing late.  I need a break, and when everything settles down, maybe I can join another league.