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john.hobson12490

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Hyroad or asylum?
« on: January 29, 2014, 09:21:05 PM »
Which ball, and why? Thanks in advance for your input.

 

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Re: Hyroad or asylum?
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2014, 04:37:29 PM »
I am going to dredge up this thread because I am about to make the same decision. I picked up a Hyroad last October and put a control layout on it in hopes of making it my benchmark ball. On fresh oil, the hyroad doesn't read the mids for me at box finish. I have tried it at 2000 and 3000 abralon but neither seemed to give me the look on the fresh I am looking for. 2000 seemed to burn off too much energy and 3000 was hit or miss at reading the midlane on fresh. My house doesn't usually have the cleanest backends, so I need a ball to get a good read in the mids to prevent over/under and spotty reactions. I am debating replacing my hyroad with an Asylum. From those who seem to have the same issues with the hyroad that I have, do you find the Asylum a better benchmark piece?

I'd suspect your mistake was one I make quite a bit myself. If you put a control drill on the HR, it is probably best used with polish. Once you dull the ball down to 2000 or 3000 grit, the control drill will often make the backend very slow and leave you lots of back row, 1 and 2 pin spares (these balls tend to use up too much energy in the mid-lane.). If you use strong-ish balls like the HR and the Asylum with dull surfaces, you often need stronger reacting drills, not control drills. By stronger I mean smaller VAL angles or pin-up drillings (to be very generic). If you have a higher tilt or more rotation in your release, you don't need smaller VAL angles.
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Re: Hyroad or asylum?
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2014, 07:15:20 AM »
I'd suspect your mistake was one I make quite a bit myself. If you put a control drill on the HR, it is probably best used with polish. Once you dull the ball down to 2000 or 3000 grit, the control drill will often make the backend very slow and leave you lots of back row, 1 and 2 pin spares (these balls tend to use up too much energy in the mid-lane.). If you use strong-ish balls like the HR and the Asylum with dull surfaces, you often need stronger reacting drills, not control drills. By stronger I mean smaller VAL angles or pin-up drillings (to be very generic). If you have a higher tilt or more rotation in your release, you don't need smaller VAL angles.
^THIS!^ Describes the reaction I was getting to a tee. The problem is I didn't like the way the ball handles with polish for me at my center as it made it very over/under on the spotty backends at my house. I already put an order in for an Asylum but thank you for this info so I won't screw up the asylum with a control drilling. I may have my driller plug the hy-road and try a different layout or I may see what I can get for it while it's a single drill. Thanks for your help everyone. I will be sure to update after I get the Asylum to share my findings.
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Re: Hyroad or asylum?
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2014, 03:11:53 PM »
Now that I have both, I can make a fair statement. The Hy-Road skids more on the fresh and arcs into the pocket. The Asylum is early with a very conyinuous roll. Ihave 3 potential benchmark bowling balls in the Asylum, !Q Tour Solid, and Hy-Road. The Asylum is definitely the earliest and rolliest of the 3. For my arsenal, I've decided the !Q will be the best benchmark. The Asylum is at 1000 for heavier volumes of oil. The Hy-Road will be for when I need a ball to skid through the heads and have a nice arc.
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Re: Hyroad or asylum?
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2014, 12:24:06 PM »
So I finally bought the Asylum and got a chance to throw it today and I am 110% ecstatic with my decision. I bowled on a pair that had just finished a kids party and usually at my local house, this would spell disaster for me since I am slightly speed dominant and carrydown is a nightmare. The Asylum handled this absolutely phenomenally. I often run into similar conditions in my second shift league during the winter and always struggle to consistently carry even on decent pocket hit. I found that statement especially true with the Hy-road I have. I love the earlier roll of the Asylum and it definitely suits me much better than the Hy-road. It does need a bit more oil but as long as I didn't get it into the dry too early from too direct of a line, it was a beast. I could even swing it way out to the dry from an inside line and didn't suffer from carry issues. Needless to say, I am in love with this ball and can't wait to get some more games under my belt with it. It will certainly be the first ball out of the bag on a house shot. Thanks again for all the comments and input!
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