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just a bit upset..
« on: November 22, 2012, 11:36:36 AM »
Hey guys last night I had two ballsdrilled. When I got home I noticed one wasn't drilled right. I asked for a stacked drill pin over the ring and it got drilled pin over ring with cg in the palm. A label leverage you might say. I am furious but what if anything can I do? I know he'd fix it for free but I am not gonna have a brand new ball that's never been thrown plugged.
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Re: just a bit upset..
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2012, 03:52:30 PM »
Thanks Rico, a good point and I always appreciate your feedback. In this particular case, the ball was an original Inferno that was stacked under ring. I was attending a camp in Texas and heard such rave reviews from one of the students I was bowling with about what a difference it made, that I pluged and redrilled the Inferno to exactly what the OP has on his drill when I got back home. For me, it was a difference compared to what I had before, same house, albeit a week later. TO my eye, I was getting less backend. I totally concur with your thoughts though, it takes more than just my casual observation to definitely indicate the difference. Respectfully though, I still agree with the OP's point...
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Re: just a bit upset..
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2012, 04:09:09 PM »
Working with Bill Wasserberger and Billy O at Brunswick taught me how to look at ball motion unbiasedly....reaction ALWAYS looks different at the foul line than it does from the concourse or on CATs...glad you had an Inferno while I was there (:
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Re: just a bit upset..
« Reply #18 on: November 22, 2012, 04:52:55 PM »
It was during that time indeed. Still one of my all time favorites... :)

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Re: just a bit upset..
« Reply #19 on: November 22, 2012, 05:38:27 PM »
There were a few good ones back then
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Re: just a bit upset..
« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2012, 07:11:56 PM »
My brother in law still throws a radical inferno.
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Re: just a bit upset..
« Reply #21 on: November 23, 2012, 09:06:19 PM »
Dude you obviously have no clue what goes into creating proper ball motion....you obviously thinks its just buy a ball and it'll fix all! And when it doesn't roll like you think it should, it's the balls fault, the ball drillers fault or the lanes suck....
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Re: just a bit upset..
« Reply #22 on: November 23, 2012, 09:26:07 PM »
Actually the cg is only about 1/2" from where you wanted it...and as it has been stated about 9 times already...unless you were putting an extra hole in it...

IT WON'T MAKE A DIFFERENCE....

Sorry I'm not an esteemed PBA title-holder....but one works for me and knows absolutely nothing about core dynamics and ball motion.  I can ask him how much 1/2" means and get back to the poster above.

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Re: just a bit upset..
« Reply #23 on: November 23, 2012, 10:47:05 PM »
So any suggestions on what to do with the banshee to make it a little weaker than the 2fast? Or should I drill it to be more aggressive?
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Re: just a bit upset..
« Reply #24 on: November 24, 2012, 01:21:48 AM »
CG NO MATTAH

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Re: just a bit upset..
« Reply #25 on: November 24, 2012, 07:29:27 AM »
So any suggestions on what to do with the banshee to make it a little weaker than the 2fast? Or should I drill it to be more aggressive?

It depends on your PAP, but you could try a P1 hole or surface adjustments.  I would have someone with a good knowledge of motion put a P1 hole in it to decrease flare.  This could make the ball change direction a little harder, but should make it go further down the lane.

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Re: just a bit upset..
« Reply #26 on: November 24, 2012, 09:39:39 AM »
Dude you obviously have no clue what goes into creating proper ball motion....you obviously thinks its just buy a ball and it'll fix all! And when it doesn't roll like you think it should, it's the balls fault, the ball drillers fault or the lanes suck....

jesus christ I'm not going to obsesses over where they place a couple of big dots on the ball. god damn crybabies.

 No, you are just going to obsess over your lack of understanding as to why your modern marvel doesn't seem like a strong ball, or any of the other seven threads you started that asked the same basic question.

 You are either an obvious idiot, or just someone out to ruffle feathers. EITHER WAY, I can join charlest by now letting you join the members on my ignore list.
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Re: just a bit upset..
« Reply #27 on: November 24, 2012, 10:05:24 AM »
As noted you are getting yourself all twisted trying to seperate the fly speck from the pepper.  You have a former Brunswick Ball Rep telling you that it isn't going to matter.  Let it go.  Go roll your ball and enjoy or tell your driller you didnt get what you asked for and please drill me a new ball.  I am sure he will then show you why you are worried about diddly and you can roll your ball with confidence
 



I am a righty with speed around 17-19 MPH with a pretty decent Rev rate. I prefer down and in anywhere from first to third arrow. I wanted this balled drilled a bit weaker than my fire road which is pin above the RF with the cg swung out right. This ball is basically a mirror image of the fire road. Now the problem I have is what do I do with the eraser banshee that I was going to put between the tropical breeze and the two fast? Was gonna go pin under ring withcg stacked. Not sure now.
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Re: just a bit upset..
« Reply #28 on: November 24, 2012, 12:44:30 PM »
Just curious. Who drilled the ball? The local shop or one in Birmingham.

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Re: just a bit upset..
« Reply #29 on: November 24, 2012, 05:07:56 PM »
Well lets compare apples to apples and see what happens

Pic 01 Outburst with 3.5" pin and 2.5oz top weight
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Re: just a bit upset..
« Reply #30 on: November 24, 2012, 05:09:36 PM »
Now the drilled


65 X 5.5" X 30
and
80 X 5.5" X 30

…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.