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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: Zanatos1914 on June 17, 2012, 06:09:19 PM
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Lately i have been bowling allot of games and now my leg knee 2 is starting to bother me allot.... Currently i am bowling 3 leagues and also practicing on weekends, could 2 many games be the reason my knee is bothering me.. I have heard of several things like balance being the problem but if that is the problem how do you fix the problem if you bend you leg when you are releasing the ball...
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I think it is difficult to decide what is the solution because we don't really know what is the exact cause other than the generic, "too much bowling".
It could be
- a bad type of knee bend, not on balance.
- too much weight,
- not enough slide (jamming the knee),
- or not enough muscle supporting the knee,
- or something else.
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I had this problem last summer and I was not sliding enough, causing my knee to jam. After throwing 12 games in 1 night, my knee was hurting a ton the following morning and swelled up to where I had to put ice on it and take Motrin. It also turned out that I partially tore a ligament in my left knee. I could still walk on it but it hurt like something I don't want to experience again.
You may just need to take a look at the slide sole and make changes if needed. Also, wearing a neoprene knee sleeve temporarily will not hurt as it will help support the knee and can prevent some pain. I also did some strength training with physical therapy to rehab the knee, and I continue to do those exercises now to keep my left knee strong. All of that worked out for me really well.
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Thanks for the response.. Will take the advice but its hard switching shoes in the beginning of season because it affects my timing. Seating down extending and bending my knee i feel something pop could be cartilage..
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Thanks for the response.. Will take the advice but its hard switching shoes in the beginning of season because it affects my timing. Seating down extending and bending my knee i feel something pop could be cartilage..
Maybe it's best to see an orthopedist or a physical therapist or a sports threapist?
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That is what I did. Physical therapy along with the sliding sole changes. The therapy helped me regain strength in my left knee and haven't had problems since.
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I currently have some pain on the outside of my left knee. I believe it to possibly be a LCL (lateral collateral ligament) sprain. I can feel it when I bowl and play golf, but it doesn't bother me that much, but afterwards it does "burn" quite a bit. I did recently chage to some dynaroos from my SST5s and I think it helps a little bit. Eventually though, I will need to see an orthopedist or sports injury therapist because I doubt it will just get better on it's own.
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I developed a similar problem a couple of years ago. It turned out to be a flaw in my delivery. I was turning my slide foot in during delivery. I'm right handed, so my foot was turned about 45 degrees or so toward the right in relation to my hips. This placed a lot of pressure on the knee. Once I changed my slide so that my toe was pointed straight, it took the pressure off my knee and it hasn't bothered me since.
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That possible also - we check on that as well
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Could be a lot of different issues. As some have stated some of them already I will not repeat them. I had issues a few years ago with my knee. The cause of mine was me bringing my trail foot to far around and causing my knee to twist. I started to keep the trail leg behind me a little more and that solved the problem. With out seeing you bowl it is hard to tell. Might want to find someone who is a coach and have them watch to see what they might think. Hope you get it figured out soon. Also sounds like a trip to the doctor is a good idea.
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I have had knee pain after having knee surgery. Get some insoles for your shoes. Some for knee pain. Helped me alot. ;)
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I have been fighting knee pain for years and after seeing a surgeon and physical therapist they both said the same thing. It is caused because:
1) Neglecting the strengthening of the inner muscle of the thigh
2) Hamstrings are tight
3) Lack of stretching
After a few months of PT the pain was going away.
I would start at looking at strengthening and stretching before anything.
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I have been fighting knee pain for years and after seeing a surgeon and physical therapist they both said the same thing. It is caused because:
1) Neglecting the strengthening of the inner muscle of the thigh
2) Hamstrings are tight
3) Lack of stretching
After a few months of PT the pain was going away.
I would start at looking at strengthening and stretching before anything.
Which exercises did they prescribe for strengthening the inner thigh?
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For me, putting a Teflon pad on my sliding shoe was the answer. Once I did that and changed my heel to one that would stop me, my knee pain went away.
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Kind of difficult to explain the movements. It wouldn't hurt to see a PT to ensure you are doing the correct movements.
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I have bowled for over 40 years with a torn acl in my left knee. It has only caused me a problem one time about 7 years ago. Had to withdraw from a tournament with severe pain. I went to an orthopaedic surgeon who did an mri and confirmed for the first time the old acl tear. Rather than surgery he put me on an aggressive pt program for 6 weeks. I have not had any problems since.
All of this pre supposes that you have good mechanics in you approach and are not putting abnormal strains on the knee.
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Thanks for all the replies -- Think i need some film on how you should approach the lane because its my inner knee.. I have no push at all right now...
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As stated, a little difficult to say without seeing your physical game and approach. I also highly agree with Charlest on seeing a physician or therapist to ensure not any extensive damage has already been done.
My personal teaching and method regarding leverage and balance is that the amount of centering the sliding foot to torso or chest for proper balance is relative to the bowler's physical lift effort. Seeing as how you're a "no thumber", I'm "assuming" you turn the ball fairly well or strong at the point of release, therefore necessitating a stronger balance position with your sliding foot/leg.
What I mean by this is that strokers or those who don't impart a lot of lift at the point of release do not need to have the sliding foot as centered to chest or torso. It can be off centered to the left some or even a lot depending upon physical attributes and varying strengths of the individual. However, if you utilize a fair amount of muscle effort to deliver the ball, it would help to have your sliding foot beneath you and centered vs being off to one side.
No different then the police drunk driving test, lifting one leg while you're standing upright. We should feel some need to either extend our arms outward in order to balance ourselves or we should feel the pressure being applied to one leg while it is trying to support the entire body weight while not being centered. We aren't built like flamingos... ;)
Here's how you guys can test my theory. For those of you who fall off your shot after you deliver the ball, try a few shots reducing the lift effort physically (don't throw as hard or turn as much) until you don't fall off. Once you can do this, that is the "allowable" amount of lift effort that you can apply for that particular finishing position that your sliding foot is in. If you want to increase lift, start getting your left foot more centered towards body or chest and this should help you also not fall off as well. Hope this helps some...