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LG Chem/Du Pont(DOW)/BASF et al
« on: June 04, 2019, 06:11:29 PM »
Looks like one or more of these guys have come up with a new formula for bowling ball resins.


Or at least a new way to sell shit.


Funny, every ball manufacturer seems to be pushing that THEY have a new cover stock. Like they alone came up with this brilliant new idea to "blend" urethane and resin(which is also urethane, just with other additives) and viola, it's just the bestest thing ever.


Yep, mine(Covert Tank) is sitting in the pro shop right now, drilled, as I type this. I will be picking it up in an hour or so. No doubt those poor SOB's tomorrow night will be pouting when I shoot a 1200 series on them(4 game league).  ;D
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Re: LG Chem/Du Pont(DOW)/BASF et al
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2019, 07:02:15 PM »
Looks like one or more of these guys have come up with a new formula for bowling ball resins.


Or at least a new way to sell shit.


Funny, every ball manufacturer seems to be pushing that THEY have a new cover stock. Like they alone came up with this brilliant new idea to "blend" urethane and resin(which is also urethane, just with other additives) and viola, it's just the bestest thing ever.


Yep, mine(Covert Tank) is sitting in the pro shop right now, drilled, as I type this. I will be picking it up in an hour or so. No doubt those poor SOB's tomorrow night will be pouting when I shoot a 1200 series on them(4 game league).  ;D

The over/under is a game and half before you switch to a Venom ball and save your series.  From what was rumored I thought the chemical makers were telling the bowling industry they weren't making money on the resins any more.  Me thinks this is being forced.
« Last Edit: June 04, 2019, 09:01:04 PM by BowlingForDonuts »
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Re: LG Chem/Du Pont(DOW)/BASF et al
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2019, 08:06:24 PM »
Funny, every ball manufacturer seems to be pushing that THEY have a new cover stock. Like they alone came up with this brilliant new idea to "blend" urethane and resin(which is also urethane, just with other additives) and viola, it's just the bestest thing ever.


Clearly, this tactic would never work.  Violas are sad instruments, and sad doesn't sell.

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Re: LG Chem/Du Pont(DOW)/BASF et al
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2019, 09:39:25 AM »
Looks like one or more of these guys have come up with a new formula for bowling ball resins.


Or at least a new way to sell shit.


Funny, every ball manufacturer seems to be pushing that THEY have a new cover stock. Like they alone came up with this brilliant new idea to "blend" urethane and resin(which is also urethane, just with other additives) and viola, it's just the bestest thing ever.


Yep, mine(Covert Tank) is sitting in the pro shop right now, drilled, as I type this. I will be picking it up in an hour or so. No doubt those poor SOB's tomorrow night will be pouting when I shoot a 1200 series on them(4 game league).  ;D

The over/under is a game and half before you switch to a Venom ball and save your series.  From what was rumored I thought the chemical makers were telling the bowling industry they weren't making money on the resins any more. Me thinks this is being forced.


Rumored from where? If the chemical companies aren't making a profit on their products, one of two things will happen; raise the prices or discontinue the product line.
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Re: LG Chem/Du Pont(DOW)/BASF et al
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2019, 10:10:51 AM »
Funny, every ball manufacturer seems to be pushing that THEY have a new cover stock. Like they alone came up with this brilliant new idea to "blend" urethane and resin(which is also urethane, just with other additives) and viola, it's just the bestest thing ever.


Clearly, this tactic would never work.  Violas are sad instruments, and sad doesn't sell.

Yea, yea. But my keyboard doesn't have the "a" with a grave accent.  :P


And I'm just too damn lazy to switch...
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Re: LG Chem/Du Pont(DOW)/BASF et al
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2019, 10:30:17 AM »
Funny, every ball manufacturer seems to be pushing that THEY have a new cover stock. Like they alone came up with this brilliant new idea to "blend" urethane and resin(which is also urethane, just with other additives) and viola, it's just the bestest thing ever.


Clearly, this tactic would never work.  Violas are sad instruments, and sad doesn't sell.

Yea, yea. But my keyboard doesn't have the "a" with a grave accent.  :P


And I'm just too damn lazy to switch...

Yeah a better choice would be trumpets....they're happy & upbeat! MB a little silly little kazoo...….yeah that's the ticket!

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Re: LG Chem/Du Pont(DOW)/BASF et al
« Reply #6 on: June 06, 2019, 01:45:53 PM »
Milo,

What do you think of the Covert Tank? I put about 6-8 games on mine throwing only on the birthday party pattern (2 day old lanes). It had a urethane esk motion, but it did allow for some lane shine to build on it. First night of summer league, I shot a 711 and it was a completely different motion thanks to the head oil. I am actually impressed with the reaction.

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Re: LG Chem/Du Pont(DOW)/BASF et al
« Reply #7 on: June 06, 2019, 02:57:57 PM »
Milo,

What do you think of the Covert Tank? I put about 6-8 games on mine throwing only on the birthday party pattern (2 day old lanes). It had a urethane esk motion, but it did allow for some lane shine to build on it. First night of summer league, I shot a 711 and it was a completely different motion thanks to the head oil. I am actually impressed with the reaction.

I tossed mine a few frames last night for the first time. Interesting ball, not exactly urethane, but not resin either. Hard to describe. It hooked more than I was expecting.

Of course, it's completely in the wrong place on Motiv's ball chart. In box finish, it is NOT a light oil ball. But Motiv seems to have a habit of under rating their ball performance.
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Re: LG Chem/Du Pont(DOW)/BASF et al
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2019, 03:03:09 PM »
Not going to disagree with the underrated hook potential and the motion. It truly is... different.

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Re: LG Chem/Du Pont(DOW)/BASF et al
« Reply #9 on: June 06, 2019, 03:21:12 PM »
Looks like one or more of these guys have come up with a new formula for bowling ball resins.


Or at least a new way to sell shit.


Funny, every ball manufacturer seems to be pushing that THEY have a new cover stock. Like they alone came up with this brilliant new idea to "blend" urethane and resin(which is also urethane, just with other additives) and viola, it's just the bestest thing ever.


Yep, mine(Covert Tank) is sitting in the pro shop right now, drilled, as I type this. I will be picking it up in an hour or so. No doubt those poor SOB's tomorrow night will be pouting when I shoot a 1200 series on them(4 game league).  ;D

The over/under is a game and half before you switch to a Venom ball and save your series.  From what was rumored I thought the chemical makers were telling the bowling industry they weren't making money on the resins any more. Me thinks this is being forced.


Rumored from where? If the chemical companies aren't making a profit on their products, one of two things will happen; raise the prices or discontinue the product line.

+1.  TL;DR something is going on but not sure what and won't parrot rumors catch out of context.
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Re: LG Chem/Du Pont(DOW)/BASF et al
« Reply #10 on: June 06, 2019, 08:16:39 PM »
Black Pure Hammer was very similar technology. Very weak, low pourous resin that mimicked a urethane shape downlane. With a "resin push" through the first half of the lane

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Re: LG Chem/Du Pont(DOW)/BASF et al
« Reply #11 on: June 07, 2019, 12:12:28 PM »
Milo,

What do you think of the Covert Tank? I put about 6-8 games on mine throwing only on the birthday party pattern (2 day old lanes). It had a urethane esk motion, but it did allow for some lane shine to build on it. First night of summer league, I shot a 711 and it was a completely different motion thanks to the head oil. I am actually impressed with the reaction.

I tossed mine a few frames last night for the first time. Interesting ball, not exactly urethane, but not resin either. Hard to describe. It hooked more than I was expecting.

Of course, it's completely in the wrong place on Motiv's ball chart. In box finish, it is NOT a light oil ball. But Motiv seems to have a habit of under rating their ball performance.

Motiv's charts for light, medium amd medium heavy are based on Mo asshole's opinion that the average bowler has 22 mph ball speed at the pin deck. :(
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Re: LG Chem/Du Pont(DOW)/BASF et al
« Reply #12 on: June 07, 2019, 12:23:09 PM »
Milo,

What do you think of the Covert Tank? I put about 6-8 games on mine throwing only on the birthday party pattern (2 day old lanes). It had a urethane esk motion, but it did allow for some lane shine to build on it. First night of summer league, I shot a 711 and it was a completely different motion thanks to the head oil. I am actually impressed with the reaction.

I tossed mine a few frames last night for the first time. Interesting ball, not exactly urethane, but not resin either. Hard to describe. It hooked more than I was expecting.

Of course, it's completely in the wrong place on Motiv's ball chart. In box finish, it is NOT a light oil ball. But Motiv seems to have a habit of under rating their ball performance.

Motiv's charts for light, medium amd medium heavy are based on Mo asshole's opinion that the average bowler has 22 mph ball speed at the pin deck. :(

That's refreshing!!

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Re: LG Chem/Du Pont(DOW)/BASF et al
« Reply #13 on: June 07, 2019, 12:34:09 PM »
Milo,

What do you think of the Covert Tank? I put about 6-8 games on mine throwing only on the birthday party pattern (2 day old lanes). It had a urethane esk motion, but it did allow for some lane shine to build on it. First night of summer league, I shot a 711 and it was a completely different motion thanks to the head oil. I am actually impressed with the reaction.

I tossed mine a few frames last night for the first time. Interesting ball, not exactly urethane, but not resin either. Hard to describe. It hooked more than I was expecting.

Of course, it's completely in the wrong place on Motiv's ball chart. In box finish, it is NOT a light oil ball. But Motiv seems to have a habit of under rating their ball performance.

Motiv's charts for light, medium amd medium heavy are based on Mo asshole's opinion that the average bowler has 22 mph ball speed at the pin deck. :(
It's in comparison to other balls in the lineup. Mo has nothing to do with Motiv.

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Re: LG Chem/Du Pont(DOW)/BASF et al
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2019, 06:52:28 PM »
Milo,

What do you think of the Covert Tank? I put about 6-8 games on mine throwing only on the birthday party pattern (2 day old lanes). It had a urethane esk motion, but it did allow for some lane shine to build on it. First night of summer league, I shot a 711 and it was a completely different motion thanks to the head oil. I am actually impressed with the reaction.

I tossed mine a few frames last night for the first time. Interesting ball, not exactly urethane, but not resin either. Hard to describe. It hooked more than I was expecting.

Of course, it's completely in the wrong place on Motiv's ball chart. In box finish, it is NOT a light oil ball. But Motiv seems to have a habit of under rating their ball performance.

Motiv's charts for light, medium amd medium heavy are based on Mo asshole's opinion that the average bowler has 22 mph ball speed at the pin deck. :(
It's in comparison to other balls in the lineup. Mo has nothing to do with Motiv.
Yeah, that's...Radical  :P And their ball chart (not yet updated for Counter Attacks) admits they have no light oil or dry lane balls.
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