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Title: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: leftybowler70 on February 12, 2019, 12:15:36 PM
Family,

I need help as to find a good, suitable replacement for my Loco pearl, as it’s time to retire it, but can’t seem to find anything out here that’s remotely close.

What would guys recommend? It doesn’t matter what company, thanks I’m advance.
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: Impending Doom on February 12, 2019, 12:18:40 PM
After Dark Pearl
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: AlonzoHarris on February 12, 2019, 12:27:38 PM
Hustle POW, After Dark Pearl, Tundra, Hydra
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: SVstar34 on February 12, 2019, 01:01:47 PM
After Dark Pearl

I think the After Dark Pearl is definitely the closest. Not gonna lie that it was tempting on the wall in Robert Smith's shop on Saturday when I was there
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: bowlingman817 on February 12, 2019, 02:00:33 PM
Twist/Rhino
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: Juggernaut on February 12, 2019, 03:01:02 PM
Twist/Rhino

The Twist is really weak/tame. It is about the weakest reactive I’ve thrown in a long time, and most likely weaker than a Loco Pearl.

 You gonna throw a Twist, you better have plenty of dry to bounce it off of.

 Seriously.
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: CoorZero on February 12, 2019, 03:50:35 PM
After Dark Pearl or Hustle POW. Maybe the After Dark Solid if you want something a touch smoother.
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: leftybowler70 on February 12, 2019, 03:54:25 PM
Thanks for all the response guys; I forgot to mention that I’m looking for just that slight step down from my ink (Ball is sneaky strong) for true light oil conditions.

Doom, i talked to my PSO, and was gonna purchase adp, but the shape is too similar (About 3-4 boards weaker), so I decided to not go in that direction, but boy I really wanna try a global piece.

I also agree with you juggernaut that the twist wouldn’t be quite enough either. The rhino Rhino is a good choice, and I’m gonna give the hydra a try and see what I come up with.

Thanks again guys; If you have anymore suggestions, please lmk.  :)
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: leftybowler70 on February 12, 2019, 03:55:26 PM
Hustle pow is discontinued, last time I checked.
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: CoorZero on February 12, 2019, 03:55:55 PM
I've heard the Hydra is actually pretty beefy for where it's slotted. Very similar to the Tag Cannon, and that's a ball I see a lot of since a teammate has it and throws it often. The thing moves.
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: CoorZero on February 12, 2019, 03:56:54 PM
Hustle pow is discontinued, last time I checked.

I haven't heard or seen that, still up on their site too. Maybe there was confusion with the specific Hustle?
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: bowlingman817 on February 12, 2019, 04:02:46 PM
Hydra is definitely a big step up from the Loco pearl
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: SVstar34 on February 12, 2019, 04:33:22 PM
Hydra is definitely a big step up from the Loco pearl

Yes. My Tag Cannon is definitely more motion than a Loco Pearl I've thrown
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: leftybowler70 on February 12, 2019, 04:39:39 PM
Coor, thanks for your honest assessment...  I was kinda afraid of getting this response from the shop I’m with.  Food for thought (for doom, svs star 34)  What do you think about a after dark solid, drilled weak?
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: Impending Doom on February 12, 2019, 04:50:36 PM
After Dark solid is going to not be as squirty as the pearl and be about 3 to 4boards more and earlier.
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: SVstar34 on February 12, 2019, 05:03:18 PM
I'm a little confused. You're wanting something that is a slight step down from the Ink but the AD Pearl is too similar being 3-4 boards weaker?
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: leftybowler70 on February 12, 2019, 05:17:35 PM
I suggested the solid version, because of the smoother motion; My thinking was a pin down layout, polished where it could give me just that little bit of separation ( slightly earlier/smoother, vs my long and archy ink). Would these 2 work together this way?
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: leftybowler70 on February 12, 2019, 05:22:06 PM
Hustle ink, pin up, 2000 grit, medium conditions
After Dark solid, pin down, polished, light med/ light

What do you think?
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: Impending Doom on February 12, 2019, 07:51:26 PM
Hustle ink, pin up, 2000 grit, medium conditions
After Dark solid, pin down, polished, light med/ light

What do you think?

I don't see the Ink being anywhere close as weak as the After Dark. It's more Boost area. I like this lineup a lot.
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: leftybowler70 on February 12, 2019, 08:47:26 PM
Thank you doom for your input; I’ll consider the red boost, then just decide the kind of shape I need.
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: Impending Doom on February 12, 2019, 09:36:21 PM
Thank you doom for your input; I’ll consider the red boost, then just decide the kind of shape I need.

If you're looking for a fast transition, pin ups are fabulous, but if.you want to smooth it out a bit, go pin down. Use your favorite pin to pap.
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: leftybowler70 on February 13, 2019, 04:32:42 AM
Yes sir, I have a plan. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: billdozer on February 13, 2019, 11:46:06 AM
Hustle POW, any pearl boost, OR AD pearl.  In that order...

If it was a replacement for the  loco solid then hustle ink, AD solid...
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: leftybowler70 on February 13, 2019, 12:03:45 PM
Bill, I also appreciate your input as well, now that you switched to Global yourself.  I’m strongly looking at the bubblegum boost; Looks very intriguing to me.
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: AlonzoHarris on February 13, 2019, 12:43:06 PM
Hustle POW, any pearl boost, OR AD pearl.  In that order...

If it was a replacement for the  loco solid then hustle ink, AD solid...

Bill how about we get a write up of your journey of going to Global? Ball for ball swaps you made, and what you see out of their pieces.  ;D
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: tkkshop on February 13, 2019, 12:46:08 PM
It looks like your mind is already made up, but may I suggest a Motiv Freestyle Rush?

Loco Pearl   2.57  .025
Rush          2.60   .030
Boost         2.54   .043
AD Pearl     2.56   .030

The closest cores are the Rush and AD Pearl. I would look at placing a similar layout from your Loco Pearl on one of those and adjust surface if needed to control length.
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: leftybowler70 on February 13, 2019, 01:39:56 PM
I’m going to my pro shop today to discuss my options..... the Rush is another ball I considers as well ( I did,however throw the original freestyle and it overreacted off of the dry, and not enough in the oil).

I’m pretty much down to these 2 choices, thanks!
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: tkkshop on February 13, 2019, 01:58:40 PM
I’m going to my pro shop today to discuss my options..... the Rush is another ball I considers as well ( I did,however throw the original freestyle and it overreacted off of the dry, and not enough in the oil).

I’m pretty much down to these 2 choices, thanks!
That is fair. I know they changed the core numbers in the Rush and gave it an upgraded cover. Just food for thought. Both look good for the dry below.

here is Angel's video for the Rush

here is Angel's video for the AD Pearl
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: Impending Doom on February 13, 2019, 02:55:44 PM
Ok, I'm not trying to be a company shill, but I think you'll find the Freestyle over under with that weight block. Numbers mean something, but you also have to look at the core shape, because that's going to dictate motion. The elliptical shape of the Loco and the AD are much more similar than the Freestyle or Boost. Taller cores will create a different motion, regardless of minor RG and diff differences.
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: leftybowler70 on February 13, 2019, 05:20:03 PM
After the discussion with my PSO, I’ve decided I’m the after dark pearl.  Thanks again to all who chimes in to help; So many to choose from, can be confusing at times. :-\

Doom, with your helpful, ambitious nature to promote your brand, I expect you to be at the top in the future, there’s no quit in you. Excited to try a global piece. And it’s from the Utah plant ( I throw mostly Storm/Roto),  I expect a great piece.
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: Impending Doom on February 13, 2019, 07:10:37 PM
After the discussion with my PSO, I’ve decided I’m the after dark pearl.  Thanks again to all who chimes in to help; So many to choose from, can be confusing at times. :-\

Doom, with your helpful, ambitious nature to promote your brand, I expect you to be at the top in the future, there’s no quit in you. Excited to try a global piece. And it’s from the Utah plant ( I throw mostly Storm/Roto),  I expect a great piece.

Well, thank you. It's easy for me to do this. I have some of the best equipment at my disposal and I know a thing or two about ball Dynamics and motion.

But thank you for the compliment. I'm humbled by it.  :)
Title: Re: Loco Pearl replacement?
Post by: billdozer on February 14, 2019, 01:11:00 AM
Hustle POW, any pearl boost, OR AD pearl.  In that order...

If it was a replacement for the  loco solid then hustle ink, AD solid...

Bill how about we get a write up of your journey of going to Global? Ball for ball swaps you made, and what you see out of their pieces.  ;D

I'm always late getting releases..but it like trying roto grip after being a loyal storm guy, except they wouldn't be 2x as many releases.

Ball for ball, I'm a happy guy. Still some holes I need filled, when I do, the write up will happen.