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What would be the "closest" modern equivalent to my V2 Dry?
« on: December 09, 2019, 04:13:48 PM »
The lanes at my center have gotten drier and drier as the season has gone on, so much so that I had to put the Urethanes back in the bag within the last 2 months(blue phantom, crimson) . I recently picked up a used v2 dry---actually bought a used one maybe 10 or so years ago, but at the time didn't click with it and eventually passed it along to someone else. A used one came up on ebay and I bought it and put a drilling on it I am very much liking these days( a 320 degree hook/set drilling) and I really like this ball with that drilling--it works and I don't HAVE to use the urethanes.

The only problem is it is under-weight for me...I normally throw 16 pound( do have a couple that are 15 and change)--but this v2 dry is 14 pound 10 oz...I can throw it but would have Ideally have preferred to come across one closer to my normal weight, but this is what was available-----so my question is, is there a modern equivalent(in reactive coverstock) to my v2 dry?

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Re: What would be the "closest" modern equivalent to my V2 Dry?
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2019, 04:18:00 PM »
Closest thing in my line is an After Dark Hybrid.

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Re: What would be the "closest" modern equivalent to my V2 Dry?
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2019, 04:52:31 PM »
Used to be that last batch of Tropical Storms with the ultra low differential, like .006, before they replaced them with the Surge. Now maybe a Twist?
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Re: What would be the "closest" modern equivalent to my V2 Dry?
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2019, 04:58:40 PM »
With the v2 dry, it's not just about the low differential...the v2 dry is a lower rg than most "drier" lane options....and it's a particle cover, a combo not really seen elsewhere.

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Re: What would be the "closest" modern equivalent to my V2 Dry?
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2019, 05:38:25 PM »
After Dark with a 2 inch pin and some surface

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Re: What would be the "closest" modern equivalent to my V2 Dry?
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2019, 06:09:40 PM »

Motiv Thrill Super Low DIff and High RG pearls. Perfect replacement for your old V2 dry

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Re: What would be the "closest" modern equivalent to my V2 Dry?
« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2019, 07:08:45 PM »
IQ Tour, pin in the middle finger and drill that hole as deep as the drill bit will go.  Adjust surface as necessary. 

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Re: What would be the "closest" modern equivalent to my V2 Dry?
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2019, 07:37:51 PM »
IQ Tour, pin in the middle finger and drill that hole as deep as the drill bit will go.  Adjust surface as necessary.
+1. 2nd best might be the After Dark Hybrid w a 2 inch pin.
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Re: What would be the "closest" modern equivalent to my V2 Dry?
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2019, 10:32:24 PM »
IQ Tour, pin in the middle finger and drill that hole as deep as the drill bit will go.  Adjust surface as necessary. 

Just don't go more than 4.5 inches deep, unless you want to plug and redrill that hole after 8/1/2020.

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Re: What would be the "closest" modern equivalent to my V2 Dry?
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2019, 07:38:50 AM »
I would think the cover on the IQ Tour would be too strong if you cant use urethane.  My suggestion would be anything entry level with a low differential and put the pin close to your axis.  You need a weak cover to get push down lane but little to no flare to keep the ball from changing direction too much and having that smooth transition on the back end.  I had an Ebonite Black Ice that was money when things got a little toasty with a 2 inch pin to PAP.  It was clean through the fronts and super smooth on the back end. 
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Re: What would be the "closest" modern equivalent to my V2 Dry?
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2019, 08:07:05 AM »
If you knew how strong the cover on the V2 Dry was you wouldn't think the IQ cover is too strong.

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Re: What would be the "closest" modern equivalent to my V2 Dry?
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2019, 09:06:13 AM »
Maybe.  But that is also coverstock technology from almost 20 years ago.  From all the times I have seen a V2 Dry go down the lane; there is no way it is a heavier load particle.  You are almost talking about the V2 cover like it is the cover from the AMB Centaur.  How strong could that cover actually be if it was specifically designed for dry lanes?  I had a Track Threat that was a particle pearl that cleared the front part of the lane extremely well.  Conversely, I also had a B/G Centaur that had a very low differential that would still go sideways on drier conditions because of the strength of the cover and it had no particle in it. 

It is just my opinion of course.  But if we are trying to compare something today to something almost 20 years ago in terms of ball reaction, I would think you have to go with a weaker coverstock.  I would take something like a new Messenger (diff on a 16# is .018) and put the pin out close to the axis and call it a day.  Then fine tune it with a surface adjustment if needed.
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Re: What would be the "closest" modern equivalent to my V2 Dry?
« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2019, 09:09:44 AM »
Counter Attack should be considered.  #15 diff .023. 

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Re: What would be the "closest" modern equivalent to my V2 Dry?
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2019, 09:16:41 AM »
Maybe.  But that is also coverstock technology from almost 20 years ago.  From all the times I have seen a V2 Dry go down the lane; there is no way it is a heavier load particle.  You are almost talking about the V2 cover like it is the cover from the AMB Centaur.  How strong could that cover actually be if it was specifically designed for dry lanes?  I had a Track Threat that was a particle pearl that cleared the front part of the lane extremely well.  Conversely, I also had a B/G Centaur that had a very low differential that would still go sideways on drier conditions because of the strength of the cover and it had no particle in it. 

It is just my opinion of course.  But if we are trying to compare something today to something almost 20 years ago in terms of ball reaction, I would think you have to go with a weaker coverstock.  I would take something like a new Messenger (diff on a 16# is .018) and put the pin out close to the axis and call it a day.  Then fine tune it with a surface adjustment if needed.
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Re: What would be the "closest" modern equivalent to my V2 Dry?
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2019, 01:43:52 PM »
Maybe.  But that is also coverstock technology from almost 20 years ago.  From all the times I have seen a V2 Dry go down the lane; there is no way it is a heavier load particle.  You are almost talking about the V2 cover like it is the cover from the AMB Centaur.  How strong could that cover actually be if it was specifically designed for dry lanes?  I had a Track Threat that was a particle pearl that cleared the front part of the lane extremely well.  Conversely, I also had a B/G Centaur that had a very low differential that would still go sideways on drier conditions because of the strength of the cover and it had no particle in it. 

It is just my opinion of course.  But if we are trying to compare something today to something almost 20 years ago in terms of ball reaction, I would think you have to go with a weaker coverstock.  I would take something like a new Messenger (diff on a 16# is .018) and put the pin out close to the axis and call it a day.  Then fine tune it with a surface adjustment if needed.

Now this makes sense to me!! Good advice!
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