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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: hammajangs on April 13, 2015, 01:35:20 AM
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....for my 15 year old daughter. She only throws 12# but I'm moving her up to 13, hoping for heavy 13. She says she good with the 12#'s but it's about that time for her to move up. Her ball speed is slow and more controlled, maybe 11mph on a good day.
Her current 3 ball arsenal is a FreakNFrantic,, a Shout, and a white dot. The white dot is automatic, so looking for 2 more balls that complement each other. With her slow speed, not looking at the big oiler balls, but more mid range to low end.
Any suggestions for a good 1-2 punch? I'm thinking Rocket and Ride.
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Forza and panic, one is solid and the other is pearl i guess
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The two new pieces from Radical, Rack Attack Solid and Pearl would fit that young lady very well.
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Motiv Forza and Tag
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I would personally dodge the Forza with only 11 mph. The Tag looks to be a good ball so far. If there is a need for something stronger, I would lean toward the Shock. A little more control and usable for her speed.
I guess I should say I recommend Motiv since they have the same core shape in all weights of their balls. Not everyone does.
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Defiantly not the Forza, with that ball speed. Probably the Venom Shock and Ascent in the Motiv line.
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Hammajangs - I think you have this already covered, the Rocket and Ride would be excellent choices to replace the FreaknFrantic and Shout.
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900 Global makes an interesting matched set of balls too, called the All Day and All Night. Start your set with the All Day and when you see some transition you pick up the All Night to finish.
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Thank you for the suggestions. No 900 Global at the pro shop here, but got most everything else, or can easily get it.
I know it didn't come out yet, but also keeping my eye out on the Soul/Soul Mate, also thinking about the Gold Rhino Pro/LT-48 combo.
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Grease Monkey POW! - good for those medium / medium-heavy patterns & Grease Monkey Whack! for those medium-light / medium patterns. The pefeormance you get at the price you pay is a really great value.
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Thanks RB, i actually just won a 14# Grease Monkey Whack in a raffle a few days ago. I told her that I would give it to her to try, but she refused, saying that it's too heavy for her. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Thanks spmcmcgivern, i forgot about the core thing in lighter balls.
Does this affect balls lighter than 13 or 14?
Also, anyone know off the top of their heads what companies do this? I was showing her the responses, and being a girl, she's leaning towards the Rocket/Ride combo, but she hasn't decided yet. I'm in no way implying that those are girly colors, just that she likes the colors, LOL. But when it's time, I know she will throw that aside and pretty much let me (with all of your input, of course) decide on what is best for her.
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The only company that uses the same core on all weights is motiv, some other from 13 and down use a different core, others 14 and down different core, so I would go motiv due to the weight she will be using.
And as milo said, maybe the forza might be too strong but try some cover changes and it should be good, plus IMO from what I've seen, the overall hook of the rocket vs the motiv is pretty similar.
best regards
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Radical uses the same core design in each line in all available weights. Like most companies you will get slight differences in the RG factors but the core design in each Radical line will be the same from weight to weight.
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First impression is Radical also has the same core shape in each ball.
Nothing wrong with Radical equipment, but I like what Motiv has done recently which is why I suggested them for your case.
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Radical uses the same core design in each line in all available weights. Like most companies you will get slight differences in the RG factors but the core design in each Radical line will be the same from weight to weight.
Didnt know that! nice to hear it
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I'm reviving this thread because I still didn't decide what to get my daughter for her 1-2 punch.
Again, the reason for the balls is because I'm going up to 13# from 12#.
Been hearing a LOT of great stuff about the Motiv Tag. My initial choice was the Rocket and Ride, but I hardly hear anything about those balls now.
So if I go Tag, (her ball speed is only 10mph, and her strong ball is a FreakNFrantic) do you guys think this is strong enough as her first ball? How about a Ascent or a Rebel Tank as her step down! (Replacing a Shout). Which one, or something else?
Looking at making the purchase within the next week or 2.
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With the Freak'n Frantic, the closest to that would likely be either the Tribal Fire or the Tag, so you are in the ballpark with having something similar. With slower speed, the Tag could potentially fit the bill here and may be better. The Tag uses a solid cover but is designed to be very clean up front and saves its energy for the backend. Of course, the cover can be adjusted as needed.
If she needs something stronger to go up from the Tag, go with the Venom Shock. This is one of the most versatile balls in the Motiv lineup and works well on many different patterns.
The Forza is going to probably be a bit too strong with her speed at this point. It's a great benchmark ball but would likely be overkill for the time being.
I've found Motiv to have great covers. For example, I have a Covert Revolt as my medium-heavy ball and used it a lot this past season along with my Sigma Sting. The covers hardly soaked up any oil. This is in contrast to my Storm/Roto stuff which absorbs a lot more oil in the covers. They also take surface changes well.
The one thing to give a heads up on is that Motiv overall tends to be a bit smoother than Storm/Roto. Therefore, you may need to slightly adjust layouts. But, they are more similar to Storm/Roto in overall reaction compared to other brands. Personally, I find their line to be a bit more versatile too and not have as much niche type reactions. Overall, they make great stuff and they're only getting better.
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Do you guys think a Storm Ride would be a good ball down from the Tag? The reason I am asking is because I won one, but it's 14#, and it's too heavy for her. If I can trade it at the shop for a 13#, should I go that route? Either that, or I can go 15 and use it myself and get her something that compliments the Tag better.
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Took my daughter to the shop today and the operator said he's not bringing in any Motiv balls for now, so I told him what I was planning and asked about a few balls. He recommended the Radical Rack Attack or the Soul/Soul Mate. We chose the Radicals but he recommended jumping to 14# instead of 13#. I was a bit concerned about that but agreed. The first game, trying to get used to the weight, she was dropping the ball and had a hard time controlling her aiming. Shot 119 with the solid. (The pearl was still being drilled)
Then things started to click. By the middle of the second game, the pearl was dropped off at the lane. We could clearly see the difference in the two balls. The solid was more archy, more heavier rolling. The pearl went longer with a very nice, more defined left turn. They both hit hard and continuous.
By the third game, she was in love with these balls, shooting in the 190's. She loved the shape and control of the Rack Attacks, and she's glad she made the jump to 14's. Thanks everyone for input.
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Glad she likes them. Hope she has many high scores with them.