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Djarum

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Looking for a smooth ball for drier lanes
« on: July 18, 2008, 12:35:21 AM »
Ok. I'm bowling on older synthetics, and as of late the lanes have just had screaming backends. Fairly playable when fresh, but when they start getting blown open, this starts presenting trouble for me. I purchased last year a jolt pearl for dryer conditions. But this ball is way too skid flippy, even after I dulled the surface. The pin is already under bridge, so I'm not sure if redrilling will help.

What I am looking for is something that is going to be smooth on dry backend, toasted up lanes. I really don't care about brand.

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Re: Looking for a smooth ball for drier lanes
« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2008, 04:37:00 PM »
LaneMasters Hornet..drilled mine for length...doesn't over react and carry is superb.
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Re: Looking for a smooth ball for drier lanes
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2008, 05:34:22 PM »
try a light load particle ball.. I drilled up a ebonite big time ball for exactly the same thing you are talking about.. put the pin above my ring finger(alittle to the right)and kicked the cg into my palm,(no weight hole) in the middle of both fingers.. I changed the surface to a 1000 abby pad.. the ball reads the fronts nicely and doesn't over react to the dry backends.. so you have an idea of the way I throw the ball I'm not a tweener but I'm not a cranker either(in between them).. something worth thinking about, give it a try..            slashrr69
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Re: Looking for a smooth ball for drier lanes
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2008, 05:53:14 PM »
Maybe a viz-a-ball of your favorite cartoon character or pro team.  Drill it strong so it has some finish.  If its too long then dull it up w/some sand paper & then re-polish it if you have to.
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Re: Looking for a smooth ball for drier lanes
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2008, 06:33:51 PM »
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Ok. I'm bowling on older synthetics, and as of late the lanes have just had screaming backends. Fairly playable when fresh, but when they start getting blown open, this starts presenting trouble for me. I purchased last year a jolt pearl for dryer conditions. But this ball is way too skid flippy, even after I dulled the surface. The pin is already under bridge, so I'm not sure if redrilling will help.
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Dj,

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 You may need one or two mods to the JP.
1. Smooth it to 4000 grit Abralon via 1000, 2000 and 4000 grit Abralon pads.
2. Redrill it with a 5" - 5.5" pin to PAP, with the pin UNDER the level of the bridge area, possibly under the middle finger.
 
I suggest trying the surface mod first. Then the redrilling, if the surface mod does not work fully or enough.
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Re: Looking for a smooth ball for drier lanes
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2008, 06:44:39 PM »
Dj,

For exactly the same conditions you have described I use...

a 14lb Columbia Scout Hi-Flare...(1 pound lighter than normal)

Drilled Pin over Bridge with the slight CG kick...

It has served me very well to include shooting 300 with it in Albuquerque in 2006 at the State Tourney.  It is a steal at 45 bucks or so and would fit in there perfectly ...

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Re: Looking for a smooth ball for drier lanes
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2008, 08:15:21 PM »
Lane #1 Starburst XXXL. You can never go wrong with plastic, and this has a good core and will hit hard.
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Re: Looking for a smooth ball for drier lanes
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2008, 11:32:51 PM »
I have a weak drilled Emerald Vibe that I love for dry lanes.  The Razyr should also work well but I haven't drilled one yet.
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Re: Looking for a smooth ball for drier lanes
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2008, 11:52:54 PM »
Razyr is going to be one of the best dry lane balls. You could go with a scout, which was previously mentioned in this post, but the Razyr has no buisness of being in the same category as the Scout.

Hammer classifies the Razyr as Maximum Length and Moderate Backend movement for dry-lanes.

check out some of these videos:

Britton- http://youtube.com/watch?v=iivoKOE0mgA

Buddies- http://youtube.com/watch?v=gLIrtYWTwHQ

Jeff Ussery on Hammer website- http://www.hammerbowling.com/products/balls/ball_razyr.php



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Re: Looking for a smooth ball for drier lanes
« Reply #24 on: July 19, 2008, 12:26:51 AM »
Avalanche Pearl at 4000 abralon + Secret Sauce = maximum length, control, and minimum hook.
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Re: Looking for a smooth ball for drier lanes
« Reply #25 on: July 19, 2008, 12:30:19 AM »
Black Tornado Sparkle by Ebonite!!!
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Re: Looking for a smooth ball for drier lanes
« Reply #26 on: July 19, 2008, 08:29:57 AM »
I have the Avalanche Solid, pin over middle finger (~5-1/2" from axis) with the CG under the ring, no weight hole and box finish.  This ball gets a lot of length and a very rolly, controllable backend.  I can use this more up the boards on a fresh shot, and move inside a bit once the heads start to dry up a bit.  I've considered knocking the shine off the ball and leaving it at 2000 Abralon to give it a slightly earlier read.  For the price, you can't go wrong, and with PK18 coverstock, longevity won't be an issue.
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Re: Looking for a smooth ball for drier lanes
« Reply #27 on: July 19, 2008, 09:20:11 AM »
The ball I'm having the best success with on drier lanes is my Resurgence. For me this ball has never had a huge backend move, which makes it very controlable. I've never seen anyone else use the ball so I don't know if it's just mine or if all are the same.
Anyway, my bowling style is a stroker. I like to play around the 2nd arrow. My ball has 2-1/4" pin length & is drilled with the pin over my ring finger. I also added polish to the ball. That seemed to bring it to life on the dry stuff.
I've also got a Twisted Fury & it acts like it might be useable on drier lane conditions but I can't say for sure. I've only had it a couple weeks but it also doesn't have a huge backend move. My only gripe with the ball is it hits like a bug on a windshield, in comparison to my other stuff.
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Re: Looking for a smooth ball for drier lanes
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2008, 08:49:52 PM »
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quote:
Ok. I'm bowling on older synthetics, and as of late the lanes have just had screaming backends. Fairly playable when fresh, but when they start getting blown open, this starts presenting trouble for me. I purchased last year a jolt pearl for dryer conditions. But this ball is way too skid flippy, even after I dulled the surface. The pin is already under bridge, so I'm not sure if redrilling will help.
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Dj
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Dj,

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 You may need one or two mods to the JP.
1. Smooth it to 4000 grit Abralon via 1000, 2000 and 4000 grit Abralon pads.
2. Redrill it with a 5" - 5.5" pin to PAP, with the pin UNDER the level of the bridge area, possibly under the middle finger.
 
I suggest trying the surface mod first. Then the redrilling, if the surface mod does not work fully or enough.
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Edited on 7/18/2008 8:05 PM


Charlest,

It already is drilled pin under, right between my fingers.

I've played with the surface some. I took it down to 800 no polish, and it tamed down the backend, but not much. Then I tried polishing it to 2000 with polish, and as soon as it hit the dry, it creates huge uncontrolable angle and is horribly over under when the lanes break down. I think its a good ball, on the right condition. Did well on the viper pattern with it. I have yet to take it to 4000.

Dj
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Re: Looking for a smooth ball for drier lanes
« Reply #29 on: July 21, 2008, 06:36:52 PM »
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Ok. I'm bowling on older synthetics, and as of late the lanes have just had screaming backends. Fairly playable when fresh, but when they start getting blown open, this starts presenting trouble for me. I purchased last year a jolt pearl for dryer conditions. But this ball is way too skid flippy, even after I dulled the surface. The pin is already under bridge, so I'm not sure if redrilling will help.
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Dj
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Dj,

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 You may need one or two mods to the JP.
1. Smooth it to 4000 grit Abralon via 1000, 2000 and 4000 grit Abralon pads.
2. Redrill it with a 5" - 5.5" pin to PAP, with the pin UNDER the level of the bridge area, possibly under the middle finger.
 
I suggest trying the surface mod first. Then the redrilling, if the surface mod does not work fully or enough.
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Charlest,

It already is drilled pin under, right between my fingers.

I've played with the surface some. I took it down to 800 no polish, and it tamed down the backend, but not much. Then I tried polishing it to 2000 with polish, and as soon as it hit the dry, it creates huge uncontrolable angle and is horribly over under when the lanes break down. I think its a good ball, on the right condition. Did well on the viper pattern with it. I have yet to take it to 4000.

Dj
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If you've already taken it to 800 grit, I doubt if 4000 grit will help. 4000 will allow it to go longer, but reduce the backend a bit. 800 will have allowed it to burn up in the midlane as much as possible, IF you still had enough energy left ot hit.

At this point, I'd try a really mild backend ball, like the Blue/Green Centaur.
It comes 1000 grit matter (which is really 2000 grit Abralon) and is very smooth - virtually a urethane reaciton with resin hit (I remain astounded at its hitting power.). You can take the surface to 4000 grit for more length, but I suspect that would not be necessary. BTM listed its backend as 11.5, which I think is the smallest number there is a Looooong time.


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Re: Looking for a smooth ball for drier lanes
« Reply #30 on: July 21, 2008, 06:38:32 PM »
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The ball I'm having the best success with on drier lanes is my Resurgence.


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