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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: joeyyant on August 14, 2015, 03:59:43 PM

Title: Looking for most aggressive ball on the market
Post by: joeyyant on August 14, 2015, 03:59:43 PM
I am going to try team USA trials  and was wondering what us one of the most aggressive ball on the market. Not worrying about layout. I know it is a tough and loaded question
My arsenal: Game breaker 2, Gamebreaker 2 (hybrid overseas release), Game breaker 2 gold, Forza, revolt vengeance, rocket.  Getting a red window legend pearl and a used guru(but trying a sarge easter grip)  Had the code of honor and loved it but it is starting to crack on me.
Title: Re: Looking for most aggressive ball on the market
Post by: tommyboy74 on August 14, 2015, 04:14:16 PM
The strongest on the market based on BTM numbers IIRC is the Guru Mighty (62 or 63 rating).  After that, there is the Original Mastermind, Hyper Cell, AMF Pure and Motiv Jackal to name a few.
Title: Re: Looking for most aggressive ball on the market
Post by: avabob on August 14, 2015, 04:17:09 PM
In my experience pure aggressive can lead to a very condition specific ball.  If I was looking for something super aggressive I think I would look at the Paradox.  Not quite as high a number as a couple of others, but looks like it might have a better core shell matchup. 
Title: Re: Looking for most aggressive ball on the market
Post by: leftybowler70 on August 14, 2015, 05:18:04 PM
Tommyboy, that would be the Guru Master, it has the highest BTM hook rating.
Title: Re: Looking for most aggressive ball on the market
Post by: joeyyant on August 14, 2015, 05:59:34 PM
Thanks for all the quick responses. I never really liked really heavy oil bowling balls because they tend to get too much over under for me. I heard lots of good things about the paradox and it does seem like a more versatile ball then some of the other higher end equipment . Also how similar are the guru and the guru master?
Title: Re: Looking for most aggressive ball on the market
Post by: tommyboy74 on August 14, 2015, 06:16:01 PM
Tommyboy, that would be the Guru Master, it has the highest BTM hook rating.

Thanks, just mixed the 2 names up.
Title: Re: Looking for most aggressive ball on the market
Post by: Dave81644 on August 14, 2015, 10:17:48 PM
Go with the Paradox, I normally wouldn't buy something that strong, but its an amazing piece
I wouldn't have believed unless I saw it with my own eyes
It carrys everything from everywhere is what 1 guy described it to me before I got it.
 ball of the year candidate IMO
Title: Re: Looking for most aggressive ball on the market
Post by: billdozer on August 14, 2015, 11:18:40 PM
Hyper cell man, that core is so proven its not funny. 
Title: Re: Looking for most aggressive ball on the market
Post by: Rightycomplex on August 15, 2015, 08:57:49 AM
Guru Master is the Strongest ball on the market. 7 boards more than the Guru. And the Paradox is an awesome piece. Versatile drillingwise as well. But so is the Master. I dont think you'd lose either way you when you made your decision.
Title: Re: Looking for most aggressive ball on the market
Post by: Metal_rules on August 16, 2015, 03:45:22 PM
Hyper cell man, that core is so proven its not funny. 
I AGREE 100%
Title: Re: Looking for most aggressive ball on the market
Post by: Dave81644 on August 16, 2015, 06:49:40 PM
I have 2 team mates that love their hypercell
however, both have said the cover isnt lasting, seems to be losing reaction after some cover touch ups
1 of them bought another one cause he did so well in a few tournaments with it
maybe its oil soaked, I dont know, he said he had it baked and it isnt the same anymore
Title: Re: Looking for most aggressive ball on the market
Post by: avabob on August 17, 2015, 11:47:32 AM
That brings up the other problem with super aggressive shells.  I have never seen any super aggressive solids from any company that didn't lose a significant portion of their reaction rather quickly. 
Title: Re: Looking for most aggressive ball on the market
Post by: LookingForALeftyWall on August 17, 2015, 12:19:11 PM
I tend to throw higher end balls in a rejuvenator/detox twice as much as my mid range balls. Those high end solids really soak up oil quickly. I also do a lot more surface prep on them as well.

It's definitely a lot of maintenance but well worth it for getting the proper performance on a higher volumn shot. 

And for what it's worth, I am a big fan of the Hyper Cell Solid.
Title: Re: Looking for most aggressive ball on the market
Post by: HankScorpio on August 17, 2015, 01:50:11 PM
That brings up the other problem with super aggressive shells.  I have never seen any super aggressive solids from any company that didn't lose a significant portion of their reaction rather quickly. 

For what it's worth, I've had surprising longevity with my Brunswick Mastermind. I've had it for 6+ months of consistent use, with no apparent loss in reaction. It has been impressive, to say the least. While I prefer Storm/Rotos pearl asyms to Brunswick, I might stick to Brunswick for solid asyms in the future.

Then again, maybe I just got lucky.
Title: Re: Looking for most aggressive ball on the market
Post by: robertbrowder on August 17, 2015, 02:10:47 PM
+1 on the Guru Master
Title: Re: Looking for most aggressive ball on the market
Post by: Medichal on August 17, 2015, 09:38:08 PM
dv8 thug corrupt excellent hard hitting ball on heavy oil with carry down
Title: Re: Looking for most aggressive ball on the market
Post by: spmcgivern on August 18, 2015, 08:30:25 AM
You seem to have a lot of symmetrical pieces.  A lot of manufacturers are producing balls with high-end covers on symmetrical cores.  I personally don't like asymmetrical cores and thus I stay with symmetrical.

For an event like team trials, I feel the more important thing is to have a well rounded arsenal where you have defined steps you know work when going between balls.  Having a plan of attack for different patterns and having the ability to make changes to your plan as needed is important.  Having equipment that meets as many of those demands as possible is more important than having the hookingest ball on the market.

I would take the equipment you have now and experiment on the shots from last year's trials to get an idea of what you need.  The shots will not be too much different this year.  Experiment with surfaces and angles of attack to determine what you need instead of what you want.

I wish you the best of luck!
Title: Re: Looking for most aggressive ball on the market
Post by: joeyyant on August 18, 2015, 09:43:07 PM
You seem to have a lot of symmetrical pieces.  A lot of manufacturers are producing balls with high-end covers on symmetrical cores.  I personally don't like asymmetrical cores and thus I stay with symmetrical.

For an event like team trials, I feel the more important thing is to have a well rounded arsenal where you have defined steps you know work when going between balls.  Having a plan of attack for different patterns and having the ability to make changes to your plan as needed is important.  Having equipment that meets as many of those demands as possible is more important than having the hookingest ball on the market.

I would take the equipment you have now and experiment on the shots from last year's trials to get an idea of what you need.  The shots will not be too much different this year.  Experiment with surfaces and angles of attack to determine what you need instead of what you want.

I wish you the best of luck!
Thank you very much. I will be practicing non stop on last years shots. i love symetrical balls and I agree I am going to tweak some covers and play around with some cover changes.  Again I appreciate all the tips and responses.
Title: Re: Looking for most aggressive ball on the market
Post by: Dave81644 on August 19, 2015, 09:22:05 PM
Track Paradox livestream link on you tube from yesterday
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnP1QgIDESc&feature=youtu.be

well done IMO
great info