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xrayjay

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<300 revrate and THS
« on: June 05, 2015, 12:37:06 PM »
Over the years I've seen so many high rev bowlers who don't hit their spot twice in a row on the same lane; some have poor mechanics; yet post high games or averages. Well all know their high rev rate gives them bigger room for error.

So, how does, or what can a lower rev player like myself do to keep up with guys like these on THS?

I've bowled non THS with many of these guys and I get my points from these guys. It's actually fun to watch these guys struggle with making difficult spares after missing the pocket. But on THS, these guys on most nights, they'll smoke me. Even if I post 215-225 scores, it's not enough going up against these guys who post 230-240's.

What should a lower rev player work on to get better? Or What should a lower rev player do on THS to compete with these guys?

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kidlost2000

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Re: <300 revrate and THS
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2015, 12:10:02 AM »
Creating a wall on the fresh throwing grit would be doing them a favor.

Another option would be throwing plastic down 2nd arrow.

Or the other option is improve spare shooting,  and work on striking more.  Use equipment that gives you the best look for your area. Most try throwing big hooking balls and struggle.  Usually a good mid to low performance ball allows you to get lined in and kille the pocket with very little change in the lanes/your line.
« Last Edit: June 06, 2015, 12:11:57 AM by kidlost2000 »
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

avabob

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Re: <300 revrate and THS
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2015, 11:56:37 AM »
The reason higher ball speed is important is the high friction today.  Biggest problem low rev guys face that you out hook your revs. That causes weak tens when you cover too many boards.  That is why urethane can out carry resin sometimes if it lets you go more direct.  THS rewards speed and revs because there is so much friction outside.  I found a long time ago that one reason I can score almost as well on many flatter patterns is because I can play straighter and my carry is better.  THS always forced me to go around the oil line, or tame down to urethane ( new Ride is proving another good alternative ).
« Last Edit: June 06, 2015, 03:58:05 PM by avabob »

Azaelv

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Re: <300 revrate and THS
« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2015, 06:50:35 AM »
Straighter is better, go on 4-6 board, most of the light hits are gonna be a strike or at least that happens to me

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Re: <300 revrate and THS
« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2015, 11:34:14 AM »
All very good advice. As a low rev super senior myself, I can identify with your dilemma. I cannot "out-average" a lot of the high rev youngsters on our regular season (THS) league. Their power, coupled with lots of friction to the outside
gives them a much wider pocket to shoot at most of the time. I bowl in a
summer sport league and I too, have much more success against the kids because
here, the advantage goes to those who generally thrown straighter, and where accuracy is at a premium.

The "solution" for you will involve trial and error but the all suggestions above are a very good place to begin. For me, I tend to have a much higher speed -to-rev ratio
with low-moderate axis tilt. Therefore, I usually fare better staying in the drier portion
of the THS a majority of the time.  I also throw the ball pretty straight. Because of
my speed, I tend to use stronger cores & coverstocks the majority of the time---- even on the flatter patterns, but especially on THS. For this reason, urethane  and plastic balls are almost never an option for me. On the other hand, my teammate (a good super senior, himself) has tremendous success with urethanes, due to his slower speed and higher rev rate. He can "ball down" as the shot goes away, when
I most often cannot. I will often go to balls with less surface, but ones that still
have strong cores/covers. This tends to work best for me but it might not be the best
option for you.

My advice is to keep experimenting . Try the suggestions from the previous posters.
It's all good advice to add to your toolbox.

Best of luck!

avabob

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Re: <300 revrate and THS
« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2015, 10:53:12 AM »
Bergman brings up something important here.  Different speed and rev rates often require different strategies.  I am also a low rev, lower axis rotation super senior, but with slow to medium ball speed.  As a result I make use of shinier shells and sometimes urethane to maintain rotational energy while going more direct.  Bergmans higher ball speed is more conducive to using stronger surface while still going fairly direct.

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Re: <300 revrate and THS
« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2015, 11:13:41 AM »
I used to get trapped in between the crankers and the dumpers on our house shot, which was long and heavy from 10 to 10, and out of bounds past 3. I started using medium strength pearls with long pins and would make the surface less aggressive (Control it, etc). I could stand in the dirt all day.

Another thing I did was use a strong ball with a 1 or 2 inch pin to pap with a hole on the pap. I could jack on it and it never jumped. These are ideas, but for slower speeds, go long pins, surface management, and move less all night.