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Dogtown

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Method and theory behind creating a SHIM
« on: July 05, 2013, 01:21:32 PM »
I understand what the SHIM is and how it creates an advantage for bowlers. 

Can someone explain some different methods for creating a SHIM and why?

PLEASE don't turn this into an argument about why bowlers should or should not create SHIMS.  I'm just looking for some methods and education on when to use them.

I appreciate any information you are willing to share!!!!

 

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Re: Method and theory behind creating a SHIM
« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2013, 11:52:00 PM »
To score big, you either need friction to the outside or hold on the inside.  Most house shots already have tons of friction outside, so there's no reason to try to create hold.  I would say it's more common for power players to look for hook, and down and in players to look for hold.

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Re: Method and theory behind creating a SHIM
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2013, 08:15:58 AM »
On a house shot, the shim is already there by design.only reason to create one is on a flat pattern.

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Re: Method and theory behind creating a SHIM
« Reply #18 on: July 07, 2013, 03:44:14 PM »
As an old guy the old definition of shim I use is the one that they use to put in the wick machines. 

However what guys are talking about today is the tendency of high rev players to ignore the oil pattern and try to blow a hole in the pattern from inside right out of the gate.  It has been going on for 15 years.  The ironic thing is that these guys not only blow up the shot for other guys, but typically don't score as good as they could if they tried to play the pattern and let it open up on a more direct angle. 

A good example of what I am talking about was last winter in a senior tourney I bowled.  They used the Paris 50 foot pattern which none of us seniors was going to open up very quickly.  Instead we all started playing very square up second arrow.  It took a 220 average to make the cut.   I was talking to a good young player about it the next week, and he said it was a good thing the kids weren't playing it.  "We would have blown it up for everyone."

   

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Re: Method and theory behind creating a SHIM
« Reply #19 on: July 07, 2013, 05:23:10 PM »
Bob, 100% right. I think one of the issues with crankers starting too deep and ruining the shot for everyone else is that after a 3-4 game league session, they still have room to move. But in a longer block, there is no where to move. Also, I have thought for years that many of the high rev players start out using balls that are too strong for their game, which accelerates the problem more.

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Re: Method and theory behind creating a SHIM
« Reply #20 on: July 07, 2013, 08:48:37 PM »
Also, I have thought for years that many of the high rev players start out using balls that are too strong for their game, which accelerates the problem more.

Great point that not many people seem to grasp. Heavy oil to them means get strong covered ball in their hands, and when they do so, they actually have to get left because they hook so much. Often times on the fresh its better to use a medium strength tame ball with some surface to get it to pick up, yet not overhook, and keep you from splitting, 9-pinning, etc. Then as the lanes dry in that initial spot and force you to move left, you put a little stronger cover in your hands to hook more. If you play them right, you find a look on the fresh that will carry, and as you move left manipulate covers and hand to keep the same ball motion thru the pins. But most will think more oil more ball, even if it requires them to start at 18 on the fresh :/

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Re: Method and theory behind creating a SHIM
« Reply #21 on: July 07, 2013, 08:55:51 PM »
I forgot to include that I have seen plastic balls used in the college bowling environment to create shim, both successfully and unsuccessfully. Its most successful in higher volume short patterns, because every shot carries oil down the lane and you are not going to burn through the pattern very quickly. However, you need to be smart about where you are trying to carry the oil. If its too close to the head pin, to take advantage of the shim, your break point will be too close to the headpin, but if you are too far away from the headpin, your ball may not be able to climb the mountain that you just created, or you could even see some artificial overwall, where if your ball gets right of the shim spot, it hooks too much, or if it gets on the shim and never makes it to the dry it doesnt hook enough. Lots to think about here :)

And people that complain about the young guns with the rev rates destroying their hold need to learn to adapt, there are ways.

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Re: Method and theory behind creating a SHIM
« Reply #22 on: July 07, 2013, 09:47:05 PM »
Not about adapting to what the young guns do.  They have shown they can't play the shot properly for themselves in a long format. 

I really got a kick out of watching the guys on the Badger pattern.  Guys who could go straight, and not fight the pattern pretty much had the boomers lunch. 

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Re: Method and theory behind creating a SHIM
« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2013, 11:52:54 PM »
Not about adapting to what the young guns do.  They have shown they can't play the shot properly for themselves in a long format. 

I really got a kick out of watching the guys on the Badger pattern.  Guys who could go straight, and not fight the pattern pretty much had the boomers lunch. 

Not to knock you here, no style is necessarily greater than the other. BUT, there are positives to that game, even over the long blocks. It does not always work, but more often than not, players with high rev rates can create more room for themselves on the lane and better ball motion through the pins. The badger open is an exception, not the rule, and at different stages in qualifying Rash, Tommy Jones, Bill Oneill, Mike Fagan, Chris Barnes were in the top 5. Some of them are pretty good at playing straight, but they are typically power players.

What irks me is to see "Not about adapting" anywhere within a bowling discussion.

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Re: Method and theory behind creating a SHIM
« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2013, 09:30:25 AM »
What irks me is to see "Not about adapting" anywhere within a bowling discussion.


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