Post by: Bjaardker on May 20, 2003, 04:58:06 PM
I'm at work right now, but when I get home I'll post all the info that you might find of intrest.
On a quick glance it didnt sound like the stuff was going to give you a third arm or anything. But I've never heard of the active chemicals they're using in it.
I'll post it all when I get home.
Post by: da Shiv on May 21, 2003, 08:38:21 PM
Shiv
Post by: Curly on May 21, 2003, 08:57:36 PM
Guess thats the price of convenience. Odd how that stuff tastes good 'till I read the ingredients label. Thanks for reminding me that I should eat better.
-Mike
Post by: 10 In The Pit on May 21, 2003, 11:20:06 PM
Post by: Strider on May 22, 2003, 01:14:12 AM
Our company makes a competing product for Thompson's Water Seal. Embarrassingly cheap and simple to make.
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Post by: Doc Hollywood on May 22, 2003, 08:15:27 AM
They left the renew it, control it, clean and dull, and of course the Elixir.
Well funny thing is I don't use the hook it any more so it wasn't a total loss.
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Post by: charlest on May 22, 2003, 08:21:38 AM
quote:
I just got back from Vegas at a tournament and the airlines confiscated Hookit from my bag as they said it can't go on the airlines.
They left the renew it, control it, clean and dull, and of course the Elixir.
Doc
Owner and Inventor of
DOC'S MAGIC BOWLING BALL ELIXIR
Have you any idea how in the name of _____ that they made that determination:
Hook-it is dangerous and the others are not?????
I really, really, really want to know.
Post by: da Shiv on May 22, 2003, 08:21:50 AM
Shiv
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Post by: Bjaardker on May 22, 2003, 11:19:01 AM
I'll post tonight. Promise.
Post by: Bjaardker on May 22, 2003, 04:00:02 PM
Here's the down & dirty info:
SECTION I IDENTIFICATION
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Trade Name: Hook It
Product Code: NT-SL516
U.S. D.O.T. Shipping Name: Combustible Liquid N.O.S.
Technical Name: Mixture containing N-Methyl 2 Pyrrolidone
U.S. D.O.T. Primary Hazard Class: Non Regulated
ID #: NA1993
SECTION II HAZARDOUS COMPONENTS:
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Butyrolactone CAS#:96-48-0
N-Methyl 2 Pyrrolidone CAS#:872-50-4
Other Components, if any, are considered to be non hazardous as per OSHA
SECTION III PHYSICAL & CHEMICAL CHARACTERISTICS
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Flash Point: 197ºF ASTM D-56 Tag Closed Cup
Specific Gravity(H2O=1): 1.02
Vapor Density (air=1): Greater
Evaporation Rate (BA=1): 1.2
% Solids: 8%
Weight (lb./gal): 8.43
Solubility in Water: Slightly Soluable
Appearance & Odor: Creamy red liquid, Cinnamon odor
Kinematic Viscosity @ 25ºC : 2600-3100 ops
SECTION V REACTIVITY DATA
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Stability: Stable
Conditions to Avoid: Strong Acids & Oxidizers
Hazardous Decomposition Products: None, but mixtures of acids and/or oxidizers may cause harmful by-products
Hazardous Polymerization: Will not occur.
SECTION VI HEALTH HAZARD DATA
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Signs of Exposure
Eyes: Irritation, redness, blurred vision
Dermal: Irritation, redness, burning
Inhalation: Dizziness, Resp. tract irritation
Ingestion: Nausea, vomiting.
They also sent one with the trade name as Flash Cut Accelerator, all the rest of the data was the same. I would assume they are the same thing.
So does anyone know what the heck N-methyl 2 Pyrrolidone is?
Edited on 5/22/2003 4:12 PM
Post by: Bjaardker on May 22, 2003, 04:13:53 PM
Here's some things.
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N-Methyl Pyrrolidone (NMP)
N-Methyl-2-Pyrrolidone (NMP) is a powerful solvent with broad solubility for resins and high chemical and thermal stability. It is completely soluble with water at all temperatures and is soluble with most organic solvents.
Benefits/Applications
NMP, known for its low toxicity and solvent power, is rapidly becoming the product of choice for paint strippers, agricultural chemicals, and process solvent applications. As a cosolvent, NMP can improve the gloss of floor polishes. Because of its high solvency and low volatility, NMP is used in automotive and industrial cleaners with solvents like hydrocarbons, terpenes, propylene carbonate and P-Series glycol ethers. It also has application in the electronic industry as a photoresist stripper. NMP can also be a replacement for 1,1,1-tricholoroethane (111T) in demanding applications like the cleaning of metal parts. It is recyclable by distillation, readily biodegradable and essentially non-toxic to aquatic life. It is not on the Hazardous Air Pollutants (HAPs) list of the U.S. 1990 Clean Air Act Amendments.
Because of its exceptional performance and relatively low toxicity, NMP is the leading substitute for methylene chloride in paint strippers, graffiti removers, and other products for consumer and industrial cleanup. NMP can be used safely and effectively in all its current applications when used with appropriate personal protective equipment.
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Here's a data sheet from BASF on NMP:
http://www.basf.com/businesses/chemicals/diols/pdfs/n-meth-p.pdf
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Butyrolactone
Definition: A hygroscopic, colorless liquid obtained by the dehydrogenation of 1,4-butanediol. It is used as a solvent for epoxy resins.
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Other than just that definition I've been unable to find anything else on Butyrolactone. There is another type, Gamma-Butyrolactone.....baaaaaad stuff.
Post by: scruffy weasel on May 22, 2003, 04:18:04 PM
its a liquid solvent used in processing resin compounds and petroleum products, low toxicity
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Post by: charlest on May 22, 2003, 04:25:53 PM
First draft prepared by Dr Bengt Ã…kesson, Department of Occupational & Environmental Health, University Hospital, Lund, Sweden
Published under the joint sponsorship of the United Nations Environment Programme, the International Labour Organization, and the World Health Organization, and produced within the framework of the Inter-Organization
Programme for the Sound Management of Chemicals.
World Health Organization
Geneva, 2001
Exerpts -
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A 23-year-old laboratory technician was occupationally exposed to NMP during her first 20 weeks of pregnancy. The uptake via the lungs was probably of minor importance, as the NMP was handled at room temperature. Hand rinsing of glassware with NMP and cleaning up of an NMP spill in week 16 of pregnancy may have brought about a much larger uptake through the skin. During the 4 days following the spill, malaise, headache, and nausea were experienced. Examination of the pregnancy at week 14 showed no signs of delayed development; however, at week 25, signs of delayed fetal development were observed, and at week 31, a stillborn fetus was delivered. Stillbirth in this period of pregnancy is unusual. However, as the level of exposure is unknown, it is impossible to establish if exposure to NMP is the causative factor (Solomon et al., 1996; Bower, 1997).
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Workers exposed to NMP in working areas with air concentrations up to 280 mg/m3 reported severe eye irritation
and headache. With the methods of assessing the exposure level (sampling on charcoal and tracer gas method)
and the response (observation and informal interview), it is impossible to develop a concentration–response
relationship (Beaulieu & Schmerber, 1991). Six volunteers exposed to 10, 25, or 50 mg/m3 during 8 h in a chamber study registered their symptoms, before the start of exposure and then every 2 h for 16 h, in a questionnaire on a scale from 0 to 10 (0 = no symptoms and 10 = not tolerated). The volunteers displayed none of the following symptoms: eye or respiratory tract irritation; hacking cough, nose secretion, or blockage, sneezing, itching, or dryness in the mouth and throat, or other symptoms in upper airways; itching, secretion, smarting pain, visual disturbances, or other symptoms such as headache, dizziness, and nausea; and other symptoms.
Here's the MSDS for N-methyl 2 Pyrrolidone :
http://msds.lyondell.com/servlet/COM.td.ehswww.servlet.FileStreamServlet?P_LANGU=E&P_SYS=1&P_SSN=4581&P_REP=27&P_RES=5914&EXT=.pdf
Edited on 5/22/2003 4:26 PM
Post by: MI 2 AZ on May 22, 2003, 04:28:14 PM
Thanks for posting the info.
In case you need some websites with MSDS info, here are some links for future reference, hope they help:
http://www.msdssearch.com/
http://www.ilpi.com/msds/#Misc
http://www.chemquik.com/site/cq/freecq.asp
http://www.msdssolutions.com/en/index.asp
Post by: da Shiv on May 22, 2003, 06:52:53 PM
My next question is: What's in this stuff?>
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Edited on 5/22/2003 6:52 PM
Post by: Bjaardker on May 22, 2003, 08:58:11 PM
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Amazing. Thanks to everybody for this overload of information. Compared to most MSDS that I've seen, this stuff sounds positively harmless.
That's exactly the conclusion I came to as well.
Glad to hear it personally, I still thing the smell is way overpowering.
Post by: scruffy weasel on May 22, 2003, 09:21:22 PM
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Post by: Leftyhi-trak on May 23, 2003, 05:35:13 AM