Author Topic: mushtare da man.. (Read 8731 times)

zeus · « **on:** February 02, 2006, 01:23:21 PM »

the wonder boy took high honors this week firing an 852
do not know if this was a "pre-bowl".

Nails · « **Reply #16 on:** February 04, 2006, 06:05:04 AM »

For a legal shot, all you need is 3 units of oil on every board. Never mind the fact that some machines are incapable of putting oil on the last board or two, or that the governing body won't bother to measure these things. It's almost impossible to put out an illegal shot. You can make such an incredibly easy shot that there's no advantage of laying out an illegal one. I'd be willing to bet a large sum of money that the shot Mushtare throws on is legal. There are plenty of other things to question, however.
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LuckyLefty · « **Reply #17 on:** February 04, 2006, 08:55:05 AM »

Why is it that people mix up the skill to tear up a house shot with the skill to tear up a difficult shot?

Two different skills!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS this kid is POWERFUL...His physique reminds me of Babe Ruth! Good thing you guys weren't around when the Babe starting hitting twice as many homers as any other player....if you had the power you might have crucified him!! As you are trying to do here.
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Cbjdc · « **Reply #18 on:** February 04, 2006, 09:14:59 AM »

my problem and I have taken a different perspective then before. I was all about bashing the kid. However, my problem is this. If you shot an 800 or 300 or heck even a 900. You dont go running around the bowling community bringing attention to yourself. You let your accomplishment speak for it self then let the accolades come in. I just keep reading things that this kid posts about how the lanes were like this, or he struck 36 times cold without practice, or he can tell when he is gonna leave ten pin. I can see the later sometimes its a feel thing that everyone knows sometimes.

Another way of looking at this is that its like golfing and having an ace on a par 3 without anyone watching. Now does it count or doesnt it. You only know for yourself unless someone is around to see it happen.

But my point here is this, lefty or whoever you guys can put your .02 cents on this, but I would be more readily excepting of this kids accomplishment if I didnt keep hearing the yipping from him. Trying to defend himself, or have he dad handle all the press, or this or that. So that makes me really doubtful.

NOTHUMB · « **Reply #19 on:** February 04, 2006, 09:24:00 AM »

I posted the first time that his 900 was mentioned on the board.

I said---congrats---but ridiculous.

It is ridiculous. It shouldnt happen once much less how many times it happened. Whether or not he actually shot the 900s by merit is another issue.

My issue is that it makes this sport into even more of a joke. I always say, you can only bowl as well as you can on your given set of conditions. Apparently he is doing his best. Its still a joke.

People attacked me when I criticized him---and now look, everybody is on the bandwagon. Gee, if you all would just face the truth---ITS A JOKE.
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ChrispyBrownies · « **Reply #20 on:** February 04, 2006, 10:30:28 AM »

i agree with nothumb. 852? was this one sanctioned or in practice? with handicap or bumpers or lots of handicap(or all of the above

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oh well. . .
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LuckyLefty · « **Reply #21 on:** February 04, 2006, 11:20:12 AM »

As written by Lefty in the Zone...it was in league with everyone else bowling.

What happened to when prodigies came around and people admired them and tried to emulate them.

I've watched the tape and I have always wished I was a better walled condition bowler.

Bowled with a guy this week that went like 27X 26x to finish night and the 3 times he didn't strike were bad luck! He has a GREAT area release though He doesn't throw it as powerfully as this kid.

You know what I'm talking about ...the area release thumb out a long time before the fingers ball staying on the fingers forever! In bowling secrets of the pros

High Scoring Made Simple..by Bill Horvath

Bill explains the secret is this early release of the thumb which leads to tremenendous area. Having a great match of speed and revs also helps and strenght like this kid appears to have doesn't hurt much either.

Thsi kid has what Bowling Secrets above talks about...it will not surprise me if he throws ANOTHER 900 or two in the next two years(OF Course on a walled condition!)! And some might be in practice and some might be in prebowl.

If people had reacted like this when Roger Bannister broke 4:00 in the mile or Vasilev Alexeev broke 500 pounds in the Clean and Jerk these guys may have been burned at teh stake.... Instead the 4 minute mile was broken many times immediately after people believed it could be done. Instead the 500 pound clean and jerk was broken about 30 times in the next two years....Now people believed. But times have changed...Disdaining accomplishment is a national disease!

And so it is with this accomplishment....those that quote statistics in their heads about why it is improbable to throw the next strike...Won't. Those that don't think they can or are ahead of their average so maybe they should get back to normal...WILL! Those that say...."I've only been bowling for a year and I'm not even lefthanded...I can't win this tournament...WONT!

However, those that think.. "I can do this". "Isn't accomplishment FUN".

"Just because others can't doesn't mean I CAn't".

But like Robert Mushtare thinks...."I have this ability to throw strikes on this type of condition....and I'm just going to keep doing it....OVER AND OVER AND OVER....this is fun!" "I can see it and I can feel it"

I say it every day when I post...."Open the door(your mind) see what's possible...and walk right thru!"

He has shown you the possible...accept the gift.... walk thru the door and explore your OWN personal potential! This is the old style of encountering accomplishment...it is so much more fun than bitterness! And leads to greater accomplishment for you ...whereas bitterness leads to stagnation at your current level!

REgards,

Luckylefty
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DrWackypants · « **Reply #22 on:** February 04, 2006, 12:50:47 PM »

what luckylefty doesnt seem to get. is that people SAW those accomplishments.
They were done infront of audiences, everything was standardized. Roger bannisters dad wasnt operating the stopwatch.

230-n-up-or-bust · « **Reply #23 on:** February 04, 2006, 12:55:34 PM »

...he was, however, manning the sundial...
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LuckyLefty · « **Reply #24 on:** February 04, 2006, 01:56:31 PM »

852 in league this week......everyone watching!

Take it in and Learn what you can from this kid about scoring on Walled conditions!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS if he reported on this board that he had bowled 879 twice...would it change all the assembled masses bitterness? Then I believe we'd see these posts.

"Awesome...keep it up....maybe next time you'll get the elusive one....we're all behind you...that must have been a great feelin! Imagine...just one more!"
One pin...can convert you guys from fans to nasty.....ONE PIN!
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tjj300 · « **Reply #25 on:** February 04, 2006, 09:34:43 PM »

LL, the problem is this. We have a kid here who claims he won the Powerball lottery 4 times; but twice he had the numbers and didn't buy the ticket, once he had a ticket but the lottery commission said it wasn't valid, and he's waiting for the 4th time to be declared a winner. And it's actually easier to win the Powerball than it is to shoot 900.

I wouldn't care if he's the combined reincarnation of the top ten bowlers in history, physics and probability say multiple 900's are effectively impossible.

supernoodle · « **Reply #26 on:** February 04, 2006, 09:46:43 PM »

Thankyou tjj300,that is exactly what I have been saying.I'm glad I am not the only person that talks sense on here!

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LL, the problem is this. We have a kid here who claims he won the Powerball lottery 4 times; but twice he had the numbers and didn't buy the ticket, once he had a ticket but the lottery commission said it wasn't valid, and he's waiting for the 4th time to be declared a winner. And it's actually easier to win the Powerball than it is to shoot 900.

I wouldn't care if he's the combined reincarnation of the top ten bowlers in history, physics and probability say multiple 900's are effectively impossible.

htotheizzo3561 · « **Reply #27 on:** February 04, 2006, 09:53:16 PM »

I have heard rumor that he has sent in a film of himself to Lindenwood University.
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DanH78 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 04, 2006, 10:16:31 PM »

LL, Have you checked ANY of the other bowling sites? Such as Bowl.com. There are multiple allegations that this kid shot 900 with outside help. Just becuase you only saw it here, doesn't mean that's the only place it's being talked about. He is thought a fraud becuase NO ONE witnessed his "900's", if I were in his position I'd make sure someone knew I was chasing history, he is thought a fraud because mechanics have admitted to pin throwing to help other bowlers. And I know it has been explained before, but in case you forgot, pin throwing is the practice of having someone sitting on top of the pin setter and dropping an extra pin on the 6-10 and 4-7 at the moment the ball impacts the pocket. Why are you so dead set that the kid did it? No one has ever repeated a 900, most of the greatest bowlers in the world have NEVER shot 900, yet this child has shot 4 of them in a span of just a few months....you don't find that questionable?
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LuckyLefty · « **Reply #29 on:** February 05, 2006, 11:56:33 AM »

Danh78...alright...now we are getting somewhere.

Someone who is making allegations of fraud!

This happened here before and then there were no more backup of the allegations!

Let's here em! Right here...not somewhere else!

The "No one has ever done it before ...does not mean anything"!

That is just a mindset...and not one that leads to success I might add!

Bring it here...let's hear the detailed fraud allegations. I have heard the statistics....If I was a person who believed in statistics...if Tiger woods was a person who believed in statistics...I would not have accomplished the several little crazy things I've accomplished in sports and neither would Tiger Woods have accomplished the almost weekly impossible things he seems to keep on doing! Neither would have Arnold Palmer...or Jack Nicklaus these guys if they believed in statistics would have reverted to their mean level of play everytime they were in contention...instead they skied when faced with the chance of accomplishment..everytime...no ....but many many times. These people of accomplishment...defy!! statistics!

REgards,

Luckylefty
PS As I told myself once...."The pins don't know you are not left handed...the pins don't know this is your one year anniversary of bowling lefthanded" "The other guys don't think like you do! and picture what you believe possible" "The pins know only physics!"
PPS and what I believe Robert Mushtare must think every throw..."The pins don't know I'm only 17!""" "The pins know only physics!"""
PPPS We have a guy on this site who I believe shot 33 or 34 strikes in a row this year to start a set....Jon Brandon...formerly Big Bully. I bet you if you asked him if he gets the chance again...I bet you he'll tell you "The first time...I believed I was lucky to get there....the next time....I'm expecting to finish it out!"""" "And then again!" I guarentee you that if you ask him he will tell you it was the mind and not the body that prevented him from goin all the way...and that he WILL do it THIS TIME!!
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Kid Jete · « **Reply #30 on:** February 05, 2006, 12:14:18 PM »

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