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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: bcw1969 on April 21, 2020, 08:28:08 AM
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Just got an email from my leaague that our center is reopening June 1st. WE need to vote on weather to finish out the season or just call it a day and do payouts as is. How about your bowling center? Have they set a reopening date yet?
Brad
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Wow, lucky you. 🍀
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My good friend manages a bowlero in the Chicagoland area. He said it’ll be a while and when they do open there will be strict guidelines.
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Mardi Gras in DeKalb says May 1 on their website. Color me doubtful.
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Mardi Gras in DeKalb says May 1 on their website. Color me doubtful.
Beverly Lanes in Arlington Heights thinks they’re opening May 1 too. I don’t see it.
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Mardi Gras in DeKalb says May 1 on their website. Color me doubtful.
Beverly Lanes in Arlington Heights thinks they’re opening May 1 too. I don’t see it.
If we get back to a center before June 1, I'll be absolutely shocked. Although, I will prepay for lineage just to get some cash flow going.
I'm also gonna need to buy my drill press and start drilling some Motiv stuff.
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2nd week of may roughly
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Stay-at-home around here ends May 8th, with very limited openings. We have been warned that restrictions will not be eased for several months, and as businesses open they will have strict guidelines for operation. I would also be shocked if we get to bowl before June/July around here.
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Mardi Gras in DeKalb says May 1 on their website. Color me doubtful.
Beverly Lanes in Arlington Heights thinks they’re opening May 1 too. I don’t see it.
If we get back to a center before June 1, I'll be absolutely shocked. Although, I will prepay for lineage just to get some cash flow going.
I'm also gonna need to buy my drill press and start drilling some Motiv stuff.
Lightfoot expects stay at home order to go to June. If that’s the case........
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Mardi Gras in DeKalb says May 1 on their website. Color me doubtful.
Beverly Lanes in Arlington Heights thinks they’re opening May 1 too. I don’t see it.
If we get back to a center before June 1, I'll be absolutely shocked. Although, I will prepay for lineage just to get some cash flow going.
I'm also gonna need to buy my drill press and start drilling some Motiv stuff.
Lightfoot expects stay at home order to go to June. If that’s the case........
You mean JB doesn't want to announce it?? Shocker. This is going to turn into extending being grounded for kids that don't even listen to the rules. That's cool. My beard game is on point, and if I can find a job 100% working from home, I may be able to cut down on my amount of dress pants wearing by 90% or more.
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Georgia allowing centers to re open the end of this week. We will see how it goes
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My beard game is on point, and if I can find a job 100% working from home, I may be able to cut down on my amount of dress pants wearing by 90% or more.
Dress pants? my work from home situation has allowed to cut down on wearing pants of any kind by 90%.
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My beard game is on point, and if I can find a job 100% working from home, I may be able to cut down on my amount of dress pants wearing by 90% or more.
Dress pants? my work from home situation has allowed to cut down on wearing pants of any kind by 90%.
Here too. Have only needed to do laundry every other week instead of every week.
On the subject tho, I don't expect our centers to open until end of May or beginning of June with a lot of restrictions
Edit: actually just saw a post mentioning June 1st for the center that's 5 mins from my house
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My beard game is on point, and if I can find a job 100% working from home, I may be able to cut down on my amount of dress pants wearing by 90% or more.
Dress pants? my work from home situation has allowed to cut down on wearing pants of any kind by 90%.
I wasn't trying to give anyone a visual they didn't want...
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No word on reopening. It is anybody's guess. It is hard to be optimistic about anything reopening here in Bergen County, NJ anytime soon. On the assumption that Montvale Lanes survives, I will settle for a September reopening.
I hope that your predictions work out.
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Got an e-mail today that Royal Pin centers in Indy are hoping to open and start summer leagues in early June. Between the economy being what it is and the fact that the coronavirus will still be around, I'll be curious to see what the turnout will be.
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Have no idea.
My wife saw on Facebook where he took advantage of the shutdown though, and had the lanes and approaches completely resurfaced in anticipation of having a full slate of fall leagues.
Hope it all works out. If things are cleared up enough by fall, I’ll bowl, as long as I’m not risking the health of my wife by being there.
Got my fingers crossed. I miss getting to go. :(
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Of course we won't hold our breath with this model, but: www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-computer-modelers-revise-dates-021424815.html
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Of course we won't hold our breath with this model, but: www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-computer-modelers-revise-dates-021424815.html
That one has been so wrong it’s pitiful. And it keeps being cited. They can’t even come close on the next day when they update their modeling.
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Of course we won't hold our breath with this model, but: www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-computer-modelers-revise-dates-021424815.html
That one has been so wrong it’s pitiful. And it keeps being cited. They can’t even come close on the next day when they update their modeling.
I tried, and that's the only one (map) I've found. Please post your better & improved map for those here to view, as I'm sure it would be greatly appreciated.
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Have no idea.
My wife saw on Facebook where he took advantage of the shutdown though, and had the lanes and approaches completely resurfaced in anticipation of having a full slate of fall leagues.
Hope it all works out. If things are cleared up enough by fall, I’ll bowl, as long as I’m not risking the health of my wife by being there.
Got my fingers crossed. I miss getting to go. :(
This is what I'm hoping most proprietors get to do. This downtime would be perfect for resurfacing the lanes, let alone replacing them. I know a certain proprietor who was given a stipulation for the PWBA tour to return to his house that he totally replace the lanes and approaches, because when he got the lanes in from another house that closed down, he didn't pair up the lanes with the approaches the way they were from the other house, so they were causing some physical issues with the bowlers. Now, he has the opportunity to rip all of it out and replace with new, otherwise the tour may not stop at his house again, and this was a tour stop that the ladies love and want to have.
BL.
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I have three centers I bowl at. #1 is Bowlero and I haven't heard any news either. I don't expect much from them as I wait to hear the corporate response on re-opening. #2 is a privately owned center and I'm not sure how invested the owner is emotionally or financially. I hope I get good news from that center, but I'm not counting on it. #3 is the center at USMC base Camp Pendleton. I expect news from that center before any other and it should be better than #1 or #2.
Realistically I expect NV to open before CA. Maybe not the casino bowling alleys but some of the others. if NV opens before CA I have no issues with driving 4 hours, bowling till my hearts content, and then driving right back another 4 hours. I could easily see myself sleeping in the parking lot, bowling again the next morning and then driving home.
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I have three centers I bowl at. #1 is Bowlero and I haven't heard any news either. I don't expect much from them as I wait to hear the corporate response on re-opening. #2 is a privately owned center and I'm not sure how invested the owner is emotionally or financially. I hope I get good news from that center, but I'm not counting on it. #3 is the center at USMC base Camp Pendleton. I expect news from that center before any other and it should be better than #1 or #2.
Realistically I expect NV to open before CA. Maybe not the casino bowling alleys but some of the others. if NV opens before CA I have no issues with driving 4 hours, bowling till my hearts content, and then driving right back another 4 hours. I could easily see myself sleeping in the parking lot, bowling again the next morning and then driving home.
Around here we cannot drive to another state. If you try to drive to another state, you are stopped at the border and told to turn around if you are non-essential. If you must stay in that state, you are expected to self-quarantine for 14 days at your hotel (or for however long you have business in that state if less than 14 days.)
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I have three centers I bowl at. #1 is Bowlero and I haven't heard any news either. I don't expect much from them as I wait to hear the corporate response on re-opening. #2 is a privately owned center and I'm not sure how invested the owner is emotionally or financially. I hope I get good news from that center, but I'm not counting on it. #3 is the center at USMC base Camp Pendleton. I expect news from that center before any other and it should be better than #1 or #2.
Realistically I expect NV to open before CA. Maybe not the casino bowling alleys but some of the others. if NV opens before CA I have no issues with driving 4 hours, bowling till my hearts content, and then driving right back another 4 hours. I could easily see myself sleeping in the parking lot, bowling again the next morning and then driving home.
When I was in college this is type of stuff I would do. Now being an adult in age with a wife and other priorities I have a hard time driving 4 minutes to bowl.
I admire your dedication though.
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Based on the latest reopening plan here in PA the gyms, movie theaters, bowling centers, etc. will not be permitted to reopen until we reach the final phase of statewide reopening where all mitigation processes are relaxed. So based on that, we are not looking at any bowling until June or July.
The local bowling centers here *thought* they were going to be reopening in the next 2 weeks, but that plan has pretty much been thrown out the window.
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Illinois just bumped the stay at home order to May 30. Y'all remember bowling? I do.
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Will be able to bowl June at the earliest I think. That’s assuming things stay the same or get better.
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NC Stay at Home is now May 8 statewide, and chances are the county will even go longer than the state does.
So gonna be a while...
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Heard from the two leagues I bowl in and they plan to have a payout the first of June and start a new 7 week summer league at that time. Then get back to a regular schedule in late August or early September. Don't know if I want to chance it in June and it all depends on how things are going. Since I'm a senior bowler with asthma I'll probably be a little more careful than most. Also, last time I bowled I left ten ringing 10 pins and I'd like to get that out of my mind before I go back. lol
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My summer sport trio league is supposed to go 14 weeks starting May 4.....not sure we’ll start then but hope we go by beginning of June. I do enjoy that league....
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Got the word last night my men’s league is done for the year. Hoping to come back in September was the word I got. The center that hosts the league usually closes for the summer in mid to late May.
I suspect my senior league will try to wait it out until things reopen to make a decision. That center is open all summer.
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Have no idea.
My wife saw on Facebook where he took advantage of the shutdown though, and had the lanes and approaches completely resurfaced in anticipation of having a full slate of fall leagues.
Hope it all works out. If things are cleared up enough by fall, I’ll bowl, as long as I’m not risking the health of my wife by being there.
Got my fingers crossed. I miss getting to go. :(
This is what I'm hoping most proprietors get to do. This downtime would be perfect for resurfacing the lanes, let alone replacing them. I know a certain proprietor who was given a stipulation for the PWBA tour to return to his house that he totally replace the lanes and approaches, because when he got the lanes in from another house that closed down, he didn't pair up the lanes with the approaches the way they were from the other house, so they were causing some physical issues with the bowlers. Now, he has the opportunity to rip all of it out and replace with new, otherwise the tour may not stop at his house again, and this was a tour stop that the ladies love and want to have.
BL.
Said proprietor is actually doing a full remodel now, possibly from now having the time to do it, since the tour stop would have been 2 weeks from today. Now.. if they can only rip and replace the lanes, then everything would be fine!
BL.
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At this point I would be ecstatic if the two centers I bowl in were allowed to open in early June. I am however skeptical, and will believe it when I see it.☹
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Have no idea.
My wife saw on Facebook where he took advantage of the shutdown though, and had the lanes and approaches completely resurfaced in anticipation of having a full slate of fall leagues.
Hope it all works out. If things are cleared up enough by fall, I’ll bowl, as long as I’m not risking the health of my wife by being there.
Got my fingers crossed. I miss getting to go. :(
This is what I'm hoping most proprietors get to do. This downtime would be perfect for resurfacing the lanes, let alone replacing them. I know a certain proprietor who was given a stipulation for the PWBA tour to return to his house that he totally replace the lanes and approaches, because when he got the lanes in from another house that closed down, he didn't pair up the lanes with the approaches the way they were from the other house, so they were causing some physical issues with the bowlers. Now, he has the opportunity to rip all of it out and replace with new, otherwise the tour may not stop at his house again, and this was a tour stop that the ladies love and want to have.
BL.
Said proprietor is actually doing a full remodel now, possibly from now having the time to do it, since the tour stop would have been 2 weeks from today. Now.. if they can only rip and replace the lanes, then everything would be fine!
BL.
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Visited my bowling proprietor who was having food take out (mostly burgers, sandwiches and fries and the like yesterday, and their 12 lanes looked the same as pictured here. Will be quite nice whenever they are allowed to reopen.
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I would be happy if they did a top to bottom cleaning of the center. Maybe hire a full time mechanic to go through and do the same top to bottom cleaning/repair on the machines.
Knowing MWR that likely won't happen.
Y'all be safe and stay healthy!
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NC update: bowling alleys can reopen in "phase 2" which could be May 22, but could be never if cases skyrocket in phase 1.
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Senior league gave up. Hoping to do a summer league for seniors if things open up enough.
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NC update: bowling alleys can reopen in "phase 2" which could be May 22, but could be never if cases skyrocket in phase 1.
PA bowling alleys cannot reopen until Phase 3 (the "green" phase)...and our county in PA is still in the stay at home phase (the "red" phase) until further notice. 24 counties are going to Phase 2 (the "yellow" phase) tomorrow, but that still does not allow for bowling alleys to reopen.
Probably July/August before bowling in PA really gets going in earnest again.
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Bowling centers in Florida are re-opening this weekend. Barber shops, hair salons, and nail salons are re-opening today. While the numbers continue to increase, the percentage of those testing positive are decreasing at a decent pace, even with businesses re-opening.
Praying that you all are safe and and starting to see the same or similar recovery efforts in your areas as we are down here.
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Bowling centers in Florida are re-opening this weekend. Barber shops, hair salons, and nail salons are re-opening today. While the numbers continue to increase, the percentage of those testing positive are decreasing at a decent pace, even with businesses re-opening.
Praying that you all are safe and and starting to see the same or similar recovery efforts in your areas as we are down here.
Appreciate it man, we need it. 😊
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We're losing one in Omaha.
While one of the TV stations interviewed the proprietor of one bowling alley, and while said proprietor said that times are going to get tough before it gets better, they spun it around and basically said that their alley was closing.
It isn't.
Instead, Leopard Lanes in Bellevue, NE is closing, due to COVID. it's the last of the 3 Cat Houses that were huge for bowling in Omaha (Leopard, Wildcat, Cougar). That was a good, solid house. Gonna miss it.
https://www.ketv.com/article/bowling-alley-fears-closure-due-to-coronavirus-limitations/32452419
BL.
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As I said at the start of this.
better hope you can just bowl again.
Still waiting for the pandemic to hit.
PLANdemic to sink economy, let the biggest corporations buy up everything.
Trying to get there mandatory adult vaccines in
gov't tracking everything.
Anything that is fun or is good for people, GONE
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As I said at the start of this.
better hope you can just bowl again.
Still waiting for the pandemic to hit.
PLANdemic to sink economy, let the biggest corporations buy up everything.
Trying to get there mandatory adult vaccines in
gov't tracking everything.
Anything that is fun or is good for people, GONE
Doom and Gloom. Blues, Despair and Agony. :o Let it all out, err, no, maybe not. It's really a downer isn't it? But I can sorta understand your dilemma, as we ALL are pretty much facing the same experience in life at the present time. Hopefully you'll survive and will be living life to the maximum soon and all the weight of the world will be lifted off your shoulders. :-\
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As I said at the start of this.
better hope you can just bowl again.
Still waiting for the pandemic to hit.
PLANdemic to sink economy, let the biggest corporations buy up everything.
Trying to get there mandatory adult vaccines in
gov't tracking everything.
Anything that is fun or is good for people, GONE
Put your tinfoil hat back on so the deep state can’t control you mind lol
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Our center opened today and hope to get there tomorrow and toss 8-10 games!
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Our center opened today and hope to get there tomorrow and toss 8-10 games!
Fantastic! (Thumbs Up) Remember, NO High Fives and bring alcohol! :o
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Got my Jim Beam, Jose Cuervo and Jack Daniels already packed!
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Drove 25 mi over to Idaho and threw 5 games. First games since Mar 13.
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Drove 25 mi over to Idaho and threw 5 games. First games since Mar 13.
OLD GEEZERS RULE! :D
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We either rule or should have our heafs examined. I am good either way
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In NY State...we'll be lucky if we even have a bowling season this year if Cuomo has anything to say about it. I don't see this house arrest thing ending anytime soon here.
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Went and bowled 7 games and was surprised the first shot felt really good. As I bowled getting the timing back was certainly an issue. I also didn't bring my best equipment as I resurfaced them when it became apparent the rest of the season had been cancelled. The stuff I brought didn't match up that great with the shot that had been put out, but it was great to be back on the lanes and hope all of you are able to get that same feeling in the near future!!!
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In NY State...we'll be lucky if we even have a bowling season this year if Cuomo has anything to say about it. I don't see this house arrest thing ending anytime soon here.
Someone needs to take care of you Yahoo's there in New York or else you'd all be infected. ;)
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In NY State...we'll be lucky if we even have a bowling season this year if Cuomo has anything to say about it. I don't see this house arrest thing ending anytime soon here.
Someone needs to take care of you Yahoo's there in New York or else you'd all be infected. ;)
It's not going too, we are in the "new normal" all the famous people have told us so... eye roll.. Too many things have changed and been accepted as the "new normal" they are not letting us go back to the way it was...To much power is in play here.
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Went and bowled 7 games and was surprised the first shot felt really good. As I bowled getting the timing back was certainly an issue. I also didn't bring my best equipment as I resurfaced them when it became apparent the rest of the season had been cancelled. The stuff I brought didn't match up that great with the shot that had been put out, but it was great to be back on the lanes and hope all of you are able to get that same feeling in the near future!!!
Did you pay your normal house prices, or did you more/less, under the “New Normal�
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I paid the normal price. $2.50 a game for a league bowler. The only difference is for open bowling you now have to pay in advance and rent by the hour.
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I paid the normal price. $2.50 a game for a league bowler. The only difference is for open bowling you now have to pay in advance and rent by the hour.
How many games did you bowl in an hour? I'm guessing maybe 4 if by yourself. Several alleys up my way have an hourly rate, which I don't really care for, but it is what it is, I suppose. ???
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I didn't have the hour limit or have to rent a lane. As a league bowler they had things as they had been. The other rules were for recreational bowlers. I wasn't very clear with my previous post.
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Thanks TDC. Interesting to say the least.
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I didn't have the hour limit or have to rent a lane. As a league bowler they had things as they had been. The other rules were for recreational bowlers. I wasn't very clear with my previous post.
Thanks. PM sent.
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Next week starting on the 20th of May. Summer hours. Should be interesting to see who shows up and what precautions the center has taken to keep everyone safe. I figure a lot of the regulars won't show up until June.
Y'all be safe and stay healthy!
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The bowlero website has a link to a map with all of their centers that are currently open. Only GA, OK, and Fl has open centers so far.
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https://www.bowlero.com/COVID#map
Here is the link to the map. Add AZ to the list of states with open centers
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Governor changed his mind and bowling alleys are phaze 3 (pun intended) now. no bowling until June 26 at the earliest.
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Governor changed his mind and bowling alleys are phaze 3 (pun intended) now. no bowling until June 26 at the earliest.
Wow sheesh. 😞
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Governor changed his mind and bowling alleys are phaze 3 (pun intended) now. no bowling until June 26 at the earliest.
Wow sheesh. 😞
Probably means I've bowled my last around here, won't go into many details but chances are slim I'll be in the same area in a month.
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Governor changed his mind and bowling alleys are phaze 3 (pun intended) now. no bowling until June 26 at the earliest.
Wow sheesh. 😞
Probably means I've bowled my last around here, won't go into many details but chances are slim I'll be in the same area in a month.
Hope everything works out for you; Good luck.
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Our bowling alley opened this past Tuesday.
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My local center will be re-opening the first week of June.
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What are the bowling alley doing as far as spacing ? Are the allowing your typical 8 to ten people on a pair like league play ?
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Our center has every other lane in use with a maximum of 6 on a lane,
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i28UEoLXVFQ
Brad
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My local center is rumored to open sometime in August.
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My local center is rumored to open sometime in August.
Wow! :o You are in New Mexico if I remember right. Tough restrictions! :-\
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My local center is rumored to open sometime in August.
Wow! :o You are in New Mexico if I remember right. Tough restrictions! :-\
They are basing everything in California on a per-county basis, based on which counties have the least amount of outbreaks and have the most control. Right now, the closest open bowling alley to us in Sacramento (that I'm aware of) is Yuba City Bowl, which is 45 minutes away, near Beale AFB. Other than that, everything else is still shut down here until Phase 4, which may not be until August or September here.
BL.
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See that Lassen County, one of the 1st to open in California just re-closed today again due to several new outbreaks of Covid-19. Might be some time before we bowlers are able to enjoy the sport again, sad to say. :(
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See that Lassen County, one of the 1st to open in California just re-closed today again due to several new outbreaks of Covid-19. Might be some time before we bowlers are able to enjoy the sport again, sad to say. :(
There isn't much up in Lassen County bowling-wise.. The only alley up that way is in Susanville to my knowledge, and it caught fire 4 years ago. But shutting down again isn't good news at all; in fact, it is what people were warning about in certain people's haste to reopen everything.
Now.. imagine if that happened in, say, Clark County, NV (Las Vegas), or bigger? Ugh..
BL.
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Yup, pretty much a remote county, but quite close to Redding & Red Bluff. Has to be a bit of a disappointment to residents there as well as State Health Organizations. Only time will tell.
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Yup, pretty much a remote county, but quite close to Redding & Red Bluff. Has to be a bit of a disappointment to residents there as well as State Health Organizations. Only time will tell.
True.. Redding does have a couple of alleys. Not sure on the status of the county though. Shasta and Siskiyou counties have 1 alley each: one in Weed, and the other in Yreka.. again, not sure on the county status, but as that's a 4+ hour drive from Sacramento going up there just to bowl is like making the $100 burger run (aviation speak: fly your own private plane somewhere just to eat and fly home. spend more money on the gas to get there than doing what you wanted to while there).
BL.
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Bowled there in Redding in the past and fished there too while working there, but now days haven't been there for quite some time. Was considering moving there just a wee bit of time ago, but the stifling summer heat changed our minds on that move. Nice area though with lot's of outdoor activities happening. Have dear friends in Carmichael that we visit whenever possible and really enjoy "old town" Sacramento when we do visit them. Always pack a bowling ball and gear when headed there. Nice area but sure has grown over the years.
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My local center is not scheduled to open until sometime in August.
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The center I work at reopened for bowling on May 23rd @ 50% capacity(our kitchen stayed open for pickup & delivery during the shutdown). So far business is better than normal for this time of the year(post league season). The kitchen business has stayed about the same, overall. Fewer deliveries, offset by the dine-in crowd.
drillbit
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Our Stay-at-home order was uplifted earlier today in Michigan, with no restrictions except 2, or 3 places. Looks like we’re good to go, tomorrow, or Wednesday; Long time coming.
Wishing the best for the rest of you!
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Our Stay-at-home order was uplifted earlier today in Michigan, with no restrictions except 2, or 3 places. Looks like we’re good to go, tomorrow, or Wednesday; Long time coming.
Wishing the best for the rest of you!
Bowling is unable to open still in Michigan. Sorry to bare bad news.
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I’ll dive more into it; I heard differently.
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I’ll dive more into it; I heard differently.
Channel 4 (NBC) Detroit went through a list of things that are still forced to be closed last night on the 6pm newscast.
https://www.clickondetroit.com/news/local/2020/06/01/heres-a-list-of-27-types-of-businesses-that-are-still-closed-in-michigan/
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Thanks; Fortunately, I received a email with one alley down the street, that will be open effective next Monday. Yay!!!!
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Thanks; Fortunately, I received a email with one alley down the street, that will be open effective next Monday. Yay!!!!
Lucky you. Hopefully the owner isn’t ticketed for opening if they’re not supposed to. The government is working on increasing the fines tremendously.
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My wife didn’t show me the full email; It’s not opening yet. Thank you for the link. We can dream ::).
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My wife didn’t show me the full email; It’s not opening yet. Thank you for the link. We can dream ::).
Had two summer leagues I would have bowled. None now. This sucks.
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The centers around me are starting to open. Our summer league started this week. It will go for 10 weeks.
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The Bay area just lost one of their biggest alleys, in terms of being a family-owned business, and was one of the biggest alleys for youth bowling.
https://www.ktvu.com/news/fremont-family-owned-bowling-alley-closes-for-good
Fremont family-owned bowling alley closes for good
By Azenith Smith Published
14 hours ago
FREMONT, Calif. - A fixture in Fremont for five decades is closing for good. Cloverleaf bowling alley is the latest iconic business to fall victim to the pandemic.
“Obviously been here your whole life,†said Owner Mike Hillman. “It’s rather difficult to be going through this right now.â€
Family owned for 57 years, Mike Hillman’s grandparents bought Cloverleaf bowling alley. More than a bowling center in Fremont, it’s become a haven for senior leagues, teens and the community.
The owners fought hard when developers tried to tear it down two years ago to make way for housing. With three years left on its lease, Covid is a fight they can't win.
“You still have rent, you have utilities, bills to pay,†said Hillman.
Lanes have been silent since March 15. It’s been 20 weeks without income and the future is too uncertain.
“There’s never been a date where bowling centers will be able to circle on a calendar and be able to open up,†said Hillman. “It’s just wait and see, wait and see and try to find out what phase we are on.â€
Experts said institutions going away could have long-term implications.
“I fear we are not only going to lose venerable old intuitions like skating rinks, like bowling alleys but new businesses trying to open up aren’t simply going to make it because they don't have the runway to create the clientele,†said Colleen Haight, who chairs the Economics Department at San Jose State.
“It is possible that all indoor activities where people gather are in jeopardy,†said Mike Leong who owns Bel Mateo Bowl.
Bel Mateo Bowl has been open for 63 years. Leong is devastated about Cloverleaf.
“Cloverleaf has probably been the model of every bowling center in the country,†said Leong.
Leong worries about his business and invested $35,000 to make it safe.
“We did what we feel everything the CDC suggested,†said Leong.
He’s frustrated that County Health is quick to shut the industry down without visiting. At the business, thermal cameras check patrons’ temperature, partitions sit between bowling lanes, touchless restroom doors, an air conditioner purifier, and gloves for bowling balls.
“I was hoping and praying the center would be able to survive these last wrenching five months and open its doors,†said Hillman.
Hillman read a card left at the front door on Thursday. He said he will miss the people the most.
“It’s going to be a big hit for the schools, our special needs, and the families of Fremont,†said Hillman. “It’s going to hit them pretty hard.â€
Most bowling centers are family operated. Cloverleaf used the PPP loan they received for payroll. Hillman believes the government needs to do more to help businesses, the industry, survive.
BL.
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I think Cloverleaf has been in financial trouble for a while now.
A couple of years ago, a section of the ceiling collapsed and it took over a year to get it repaired if I remember correctly. The rest of the building was safe, so bowling still went on around the collapsed area.
The Hillman family are bowling royalty in No Cal, so it's sad to lose such good proprietors.
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i live in Washington state and some centers had been re-opening. all 3 in my immediate vicinity had re-opened. some even resuming winter leagues.
This week bowling alleys were among the businesses shut down again and not allowed to open until what we are calling phase 4. some counties were in phase 3 of re-opening and are going backwards.
I have to start worrying that they wont be open for fall leagues starting in September as is the normal.
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i live in Washington state and some centers had been re-opening. all 3 in my immediate vicinity had re-opened. some even resuming winter leagues.
This week bowling alleys were among the businesses shut down again and not allowed to open until what we are calling phase 4. some counties were in phase 3 of re-opening and are going backwards.
I have to start worrying that they wont be open for fall leagues starting in September as is the normal.
I'm in Washington too, bowling mainly at Kenmore. I don't see things improving enough to allow Fall leagues to start in September. Maybe a delayed start and a shortened season if a vaccine comes out in the fall. Too many younger people here not wearing masks along with older hoax believers too, and the state numbers are getting worse. That being said, I'm still bowling once a week wearing my mask, driving 40 miles to a Tribal casino that also has decent bowling lanes.
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I think Cloverleaf has been in financial trouble for a while now.
A couple of years ago, a section of the ceiling collapsed and it took over a year to get it repaired if I remember correctly. The rest of the building was safe, so bowling still went on around the collapsed area.
The Hillman family are bowling royalty in No Cal, so it's sad to lose such good proprietors.
They were. They were going to lose their lease, but were able to work it out, and that is despite the people there trying to petition the state to add it to the registry of historical locations and buildings. They were able to work through it, but COVID really killed that place, especially as it was a safe space for kids so they wouldn't be out on the streets after school.
I'm not sure what's even left over there now, outside of the house in Santa Rosa, Pinole Alley, and 4th Street Bowl (The House that Reyes built).
BL.
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4 houses in Spokane and none have been open yet
Doesnt look good till possibly November
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I think Cloverleaf has been in financial trouble for a while now.
A couple of years ago, a section of the ceiling collapsed and it took over a year to get it repaired if I remember correctly. The rest of the building was safe, so bowling still went on around the collapsed area.
The Hillman family are bowling royalty in No Cal, so it's sad to lose such good proprietors.
They were. They were going to lose their lease, but were able to work it out, and that is despite the people there trying to petition the state to add it to the registry of historical locations and buildings. They were able to work through it, but COVID really killed that place, especially as it was a safe space for kids so they wouldn't be out on the streets after school.
I'm not sure what's even left over there now, outside of the house in Santa Rosa, Pinole Alley, and 4th Street Bowl (The House that Reyes built).
BL.
I think Cloverleaf has been in financial trouble for a while now.
A couple of years ago, a section of the ceiling collapsed and it took over a year to get it repaired if I remember correctly. The rest of the building was safe, so bowling still went on around the collapsed area.
The Hillman family are bowling royalty in No Cal, so it's sad to lose such good proprietors.
They were. They were going to lose their lease, but were able to work it out, and that is despite the people there trying to petition the state to add it to the registry of historical locations and buildings. They were able to work through it, but COVID really killed that place, especially as it was a safe space for kids so they wouldn't be out on the streets after school.
I'm not sure what's even left over there now, outside of the house in Santa Rosa, Pinole Alley, and 4th Street Bowl (The House that Reyes built).
BL.
There are a few houses left in the area. Manor in San Leandro, Bel Mateo in San Mateo, EA Dublin in Dublin, Granada in Livermore, Danville bowl, Castro Village in Castro Valley etc. All the ones I listed are close enough for their bowlers to still bowl leagues.
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Our state's bowling alleys are finally being allowed to reopen again here in Washington, at least those in counties that are in phase 2 or higher, which is almost all. The restrictions are: "Everyone has to wear a mask. There can only be two bowlers per lane. No spectators are allowed. Bowlers must stay 6 feet away from bowlers in other lanes. You also have to be in a league or interested in practicing for one". It's about time, but unfortunately came too late to save Glacier Lanes in Everett, which earlier this month announced the tough choice that they were closing after 63 years.
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There might not be any bowling centers left in California by the end of the year.
New updated requirements and bowling can't even open until the 2nd lowest tier and even then at 25% capacity. San Diego county is the only southern county not on the top tier of the list and it's a minimum 3 weeks of meeting the lower tier to be able to open bowling for them
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We started league on Wednesday night. If you are feeling sick. you are not to come to the center. If you do and any person notices, you will be told you can't stay. Masks are not required. There is no hand shaking or high fiving. Do not touch anyone's equipment but your own. Hand sanitizer is available all over the place. We are bowling at full strength. If a someone tests positive, a decision will be made on whether the bowler was isolated to one area or if he had been throughout the center among the other bowlers. Then a decision will be made on whether to shut the league down for an appropriate time or just the teams who were in close contact. Those teams could come in by themselves and bowl during the day to keep up. They would be on separate days. We also offered any team that didn't feel comfortable bowling this year, the option of bowling on the same set day every week by themselves.
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I think Cloverleaf has been in financial trouble for a while now.
A couple of years ago, a section of the ceiling collapsed and it took over a year to get it repaired if I remember correctly. The rest of the building was safe, so bowling still went on around the collapsed area.
The Hillman family are bowling royalty in No Cal, so it's sad to lose such good proprietors.
They were. They were going to lose their lease, but were able to work it out, and that is despite the people there trying to petition the state to add it to the registry of historical locations and buildings. They were able to work through it, but COVID really killed that place, especially as it was a safe space for kids so they wouldn't be out on the streets after school.
I'm not sure what's even left over there now, outside of the house in Santa Rosa, Pinole Alley, and 4th Street Bowl (The House that Reyes built).
BL.
I think Cloverleaf has been in financial trouble for a while now.
A couple of years ago, a section of the ceiling collapsed and it took over a year to get it repaired if I remember correctly. The rest of the building was safe, so bowling still went on around the collapsed area.
The Hillman family are bowling royalty in No Cal, so it's sad to lose such good proprietors.
They were. They were going to lose their lease, but were able to work it out, and that is despite the people there trying to petition the state to add it to the registry of historical locations and buildings. They were able to work through it, but COVID really killed that place, especially as it was a safe space for kids so they wouldn't be out on the streets after school.
I'm not sure what's even left over there now, outside of the house in Santa Rosa, Pinole Alley, and 4th Street Bowl (The House that Reyes built).
BL.
There are a few houses left in the area. Manor in San Leandro, Bel Mateo in San Mateo, EA Dublin in Dublin, Granada in Livermore, Danville bowl, Castro Village in Castro Valley etc. All the ones I listed are close enough for their bowlers to still bowl leagues.
I think Manor is going to remain closed as well. I bowl at Both Granada and Dublin bowl. I. hope they reopen. I know that both centers as of today plan to reopen. There were even rumors when they hope to reopen, but the longer they are forced to stay closed no guarntees.😟 I miss bowling I ain't very good at it, but It always helped me stay sane.
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Hi Bowling Friends - It looks like Michigan is finally opening up this week for bowling. Hard to tell if it is state wide. The announcement was not as formal as I expected. I am attending my first league meeting this Wednesday. Three more after that one. Hopefully all will go well! Best of luck to all of you! Silver Coach and Head Bowing Coach at Lake Orion High School Denny O'Neill
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Early 2021
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Early 2021
WOW! That has to HURT. :o
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Early 2021
WOW! That has to HURT. :o
With this, it's safe to say that the TeamUSA trials are going to get pushed out past January. There's no way they could have the trials for it when a good amount of participants haven't been able to throw a ball for a year, let alone practice for it.
BL.
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Pandemic effects on local bowling alleys make front-page news in my current town.(apologies if it makes you play 20 questions or subscribe before letting you read it)
https://www.nwitimes.com/business/local/coronavirus-has-dealt-strike-to-local-bowling-alleys/article_0f0b6c7b-41d7-5bfa-a6b2-11b45d1a64d9.html#tracking-source=home-top-story (https://www.nwitimes.com/business/local/coronavirus-has-dealt-strike-to-local-bowling-alleys/article_0f0b6c7b-41d7-5bfa-a6b2-11b45d1a64d9.html#tracking-source=home-top-story)
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Pandemic effects on local bowling alleys make front-page news in my current town.(apologies if it makes you play 20 questions or subscribe before letting you read it)
https://www.nwitimes.com/business/local/coronavirus-has-dealt-strike-to-local-bowling-alleys/article_0f0b6c7b-41d7-5bfa-a6b2-11b45d1a64d9.html#tracking-source=home-top-story (https://www.nwitimes.com/business/local/coronavirus-has-dealt-strike-to-local-bowling-alleys/article_0f0b6c7b-41d7-5bfa-a6b2-11b45d1a64d9.html#tracking-source=home-top-story)
The good thing about that alley is that they diversified. They were able to expand more of their food offerings, and that has kept them going. Obviously not having bowling is crippling them, as it is every bowling alley, but they found a small workaround for the time being.
Like all of us, all we can do is wait.
BL.
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Our local center here in Western Pa. has been opened for about a month. Fall league participation is down approximately 40%. Interestingly, our center has actually picked up a few new (small leagues) this year which ,without them,participation would be even lower than it currently is. The biggest drop has come from our center's after- school bowling program. Our center had a full house (24 lanes) every Monday, Wed. and Friday for many years. School buses used to drop off the kids after class but currently, all classes are currently being conducted online.