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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: AlonzoHarris on October 18, 2017, 05:46:37 PM
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Excluding spare ball to complete a 6 ball arsenal, what 5, any 5 available or will be soon would you choose for nationals?
Cost isn't an issue, say someone said I'll fund your arsenal or whatever.
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Urethane in case it's playable - True Motion or Tank Rampage
Quick response asymm - Intense, No Rules Pearl, Trident Quest, Hitman, etc
Solid Control ball - Dare Devil Trick, X2, Forza SS
Oiler
bowlers choice
Me personally:
Kingpin
Hitman
X2
Tag Cannon
Tank Rampage
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Revolt Havoc, Covert Revolt, Venom Shock, Venom Cobra and plastic.
I can cover most any flat pattern with that group.
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Mako
NRP
Code Black
HyRoad
Hectic
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Defiant
Hyper Cell skid
Venom Shock /IQ Tour
IQ Tour Pearl
Blue Hammer
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Not the best necessarily but balls I am most comfortable with
Scandal Pearl
Hy-Road
IQ Tour
Blue Hammer
Burgundy Hammer
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Manhattan Rubber x 5. Its not the ball, but the bowler.
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Kingpin
Hitman
Magnitude 035
Cyclops Pearl
Mix
Just predicting on the first two, but I don't doubt both will be great balls for what they are supposed to do. Keeping a Mix for a spare ball in there was the easiest call.
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Covert Ops
Desert Ops
X
Honey Badger
Dream On
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THAT WASN'T THE QUESTION BUZZ KILLINGTON. Lol . .
No Rules Exist
Dare Devil Trick
Hyroad Pearl
Hustle Ink 4" 2000
Hustle Ink 5 1/4"
Torrent would be a good choice, Son!Q maybe too when we see it.
Manhattan Rubber x 5. Its not the ball, but the bowler.
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I've been thinking about this lately myself. I'll use the same 6 ball set-up (including plastic) for the entire "tournament season" in march, April, and may.
Current guarantees:
IQ Tour @ 2000 - smooth sport benchmark ball
Code Black @ 4000 - stronger core when the lanes are carrying down or I need a stronger engine as I move left
Hustle Ink @ Box - length with control when the IQ is too much ball
Before tournament season, I'll add a couple new balls to complete the set. I'll work with my ball driller to determine what balls those will be when I get there, but likely:
An oiler
A skid/snap monster (sometimes you just need to get super deep)
One or the other may get replaced with a Hot Cell. I've never ventured into urethanes because I don't trust the carry, but I'm considering it.
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Phase 2, marvel pearl, IQ tour solid, blue vibe, pitch blue. Always subject to change, but that group gives me as many different looks as I can handle.
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THAT WASN'T THE QUESTION BUZZ KILLINGTON. Lol . .
No Rules Exist
Dare Devil Trick
Hyroad Pearl
Hustle Ink 4" 2000
Hustle Ink 5 1/4"
Torrent would be a good choice, Son!Q maybe too when we see it.
Manhattan Rubber x 5. Its not the ball, but the bowler.
Right! MR MANHATTAN RUBBER HEHE TOO GOOD lol :)
Luke - I was expecting to see a No Rules Pearl or Intense in yours for moving deeper but I guess your thoughts are similar to mine in that the Hy-Road Pearl can get the job done.
Kingpin
Hitman
Magnitude 035
Cyclops Pearl
Mix
Just predicting on the first two, but I don't doubt both will be great balls for what they are supposed to do. Keeping a Mix for a spare ball in there was the easiest call.
Second one with the Kingpin/Hitman 1/2 nice nice.
Seeing a nice mix of Hy-Road/Hy-Road Pearl, IQ Tour/Venom Shock mixes. Looks like Blue Hammer and Pitch Blue and I've actually been curious to try those urethane variations or whatever they truly are.
Phase 2, marvel pearl, IQ tour solid, blue vibe, pitch blue. Always subject to change, but that group gives me as many different looks as I can handle.
Your first 3 are probably also going to be in my bag. Not one to take an Asym with you?
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THAT WASN'T THE QUESTION BUZZ KILLINGTON. Lol . .
No Rules Exist
Dare Devil Trick
Hyroad Pearl
Hustle Ink 4" 2000
Hustle Ink 5 1/4"
Torrent would be a good choice, Son!Q maybe too when we see it.
Manhattan Rubber x 5. Its not the ball, but the bowler.
Right! MR MANHATTAN RUBBER HEHE TOO GOOD lol :)
Luke - I was expecting to see a No Rules Pearl or Intense in yours for moving deeper but I guess your thoughts are similar to mine in that the Hy-Road Pearl can get the job done.
Kingpin
Hitman
Magnitude 035
Cyclops Pearl
Mix
Just predicting on the first two, but I don't doubt both will be great balls for what they are supposed to do. Keeping a Mix for a spare ball in there was the easiest call.
Second one with the Kingpin/Hitman 1/2 nice nice.
Seeing a nice mix of Hy-Road/Hy-Road Pearl, IQ Tour/Venom Shock mixes. Looks like Blue Hammer and Pitch Blue and I've actually been curious to try those urethane variations or whatever they truly are.
Phase 2, marvel pearl, IQ tour solid, blue vibe, pitch blue. Always subject to change, but that group gives me as many different looks as I can handle.
Your first 3 are probably also going to be in my bag. Not one to take an Asym with you?
Blue Hammer (remake) is not a true urethane imo or at least if it is, it goes longer than virtually any urethane ever made (never owned any of the naturals to be fair). Sure behaves a lot more like my Path Rising weak pearl (its a bit weaker with less backend though) than any of my other urethanes. That said its a great ball to have. It also makes an excellent spare ball on anything but bone dry with a high grit and polish. So cheap almost a no brainer to add it to almost any arsenal unless perhaps if you already have a Rhino.
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For medium length sport shots, this is my current arsenal:
Sure Lock
Dare Devil Trick
Kinetic Emerald
IQ Tour Solid
Tundra
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Black Hammer is definitely going. If these are my options at the time I pack up for Nationals, which 5 would be recommended to round out 6 ball arsenal?
Red Legend Solid
Dare Devil Trick
Phaze ll
Marvel Pearl
SONIQ
IQ Tour
Dare Devil Danger
Hy-Road Pearl
Black Hammer
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Here's a tip for all the BR urethane lovers. Urethane hasn't been in play at Nationals in almost 25 years. So unless it is your spare ball leave it at home.
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Here's a tip for all the BR urethane lovers. Urethane hasn't been in play at Nationals in almost 25 years. So unless it is your spare ball leave it at home.
Ya it is my spare ball.
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Here's a tip for all the BR urethane lovers. Urethane hasn't been in play at Nationals in almost 25 years. So unless it is your spare ball leave it at home.
I'm not a urethane "lover" but you cant make a blanket statement that urethane hasnt been playable the last 25 years. I've seen multiple people cash the last 2 years throwing urethane. Could they have done better with reactive? Possibly, but they also could have done worse with it too
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If you have any ability at all a "cash" at Nationals isn't a big achievement. Half of the field has no chance before they start.
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If you have any ability at all a "cash" at Nationals isn't a big achievement. Half of the field has no chance before they start.
And typically the half that has no chance before they even step foot on a plane to fly out to nationals are the most concerned about urethane etc.
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I agree it's not a good option for the majority of bowlers. I've personally gone away from urethane myself. I've made some physical changes to my game and urethane has become even more niche.
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Urethane has its place for sure but not usually for scoring. IMO Urethane is awesome for practicing with because it reinforces accuracy and doesn't absorb oil much at all so less wear and tear on your reactives. I enjoy throwing urethane more honestly as well. If you are very good and pretty much hit the pocket at will I can definitely see it reducing scoring but that is probably the minority of people on here whether they admit it or not (ie those mentioned above without a chance I suppose). I find at least with my Crow I do labor to get much over 215 or so but I also rarely throw less than 180 either. Tend to score higher with my reactives but sometimes lower as well. Of course the name of the game is stringing strikes at nationals or you are wasting your time for most part. Spares just don't cut it and tend to be for most people more common with urethane.
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The Bowlers Journal standings were dominated by bowlers using urethane this year.
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The Bowlers Journal standings were dominated by bowlers using urethane this year.
2handers especially lefties?
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The Bowlers Journal standings were dominated by bowlers using urethane this year.
2handers especially lefties?
I don't know every name on the top of the list, and I don't recall exactly who used urethane and who didn't (nor would I even have that information for many of them). But if you kept track of USBCs Facebook videos of high scores at the BJ, there was probably a video a week of a guy scoring with urethane.
The runaway winner was Craig Niddifer, a one handed righty. His 846 using urethane won by like 40.
It caught my attention enough to possibly bring a urethane next year (we go early, so I hadn't seen these videos before I went). I typically don't bother with urethane.
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Thats not the open though. I used urethane at the BJ and finished top 50. Urethane around 3-5 if you are RH was certainly the look. In the open, not a chance.
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Thats not the open though. I used urethane at the BJ and finished top 50. Urethane around 3-5 if you are RH was certainly the look. In the open, not a chance.
Fair enough, but unless you live close enough to swap out balls in between tournaments, it's semantics.
For me, picking 6 balls for nationals means picking 6 balls for the open, BJ, BTM, and 40 Frame Game. I've never brought urethane before because we go early before a lot of the information comes out. But if I'd known urethane was the play in the BJ, i would've had one with me. (I ended up top 100 anyway, with an IQ Tour.)
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Thats not the open though. I used urethane at the BJ and finished top 50. Urethane around 3-5 if you are RH was certainly the look. In the open, not a chance.
Fair enough, but unless you live close enough to swap out balls in between tournaments, it's semantics.
For me, picking 6 balls for nationals means picking 6 balls for the open, BJ, BTM, and 40 Frame Game. I've never brought urethane before because we go early before a lot of the information comes out. But if I'd known urethane was the play in the BJ, i would've had one with me. (I ended up top 100 anyway, with an IQ Tour.)
Could always use urethane as your spare ball as someone said. With my Ogre though that ball goes so straight basically almost more a plastic ball for most conditions with my lack of hand.