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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: thedjs on August 06, 2018, 10:41:27 PM
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My Hammer Viral Hybrid is too strong for our new THS. I'm forced to move a lot further left than I want to or am comfortable with. With my slower speed this is resulting in too many high hits, cross-overs and splits. So, before the fall season, I need to get something to fit under the Viral and am looking at the Ebonite Turbo/R, the Columbia Nitrous or the Track Tundra. If anyone has used any of these balls I would really appreciate your suggestions as to which might be the best for the drier conditions.
Thanks in advance.
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Brunswick Twist or Columbia Scout
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Tundra is the stronger of those three. Turbo/R is about 8 boards weaker for me than the Viral Hybrid. Nitrous about 6 and Tundra about 3. All balls drilled very close and hit with used 4000 pad..
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Motiv Hydra. It gets down the lane and has great hitting power.
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Practice playing deeper so you are more comfortable doing it.
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It has been my experience that trying to find ever weaker balls to keep from moving in is seldom successful. The exception might be going to urethane depending on your style. I know I am an old school stroker, but following the oil in while going to stronger equipmnt, not weaker has given me a lot of success over the years.
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+1 on what Avabob, and Ignitebowling said!! You might as well get that practice in, rather than spending money on a new piece!
Also, JamminJD's evaluation of the three balls is spot on!!
The Brunswick Twist and Columbia Scout are going to be in that Turbo/R range or weaker!
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Thanks for all the input.
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For me as well. Once the THS shot burns up, I rarely have any luck staying right, even if I "ball down", and I am speed- dominant.
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For me as well. Once the THS shot burns up, I rarely have any luck staying right, even if I "ball down", and I am speed- dominant.
Sounds like me except I'm in the slower speed class. Last week I started with my feet on 25 and target at 15 (my usual position). Then I moved to 30 and 17. To make a long story short, I finshed with my feet on 40+/- and my target somewhere around 25 or 30. I can't score from this deep and believe me I have tried. I don't have a ball in my arsenal that will help me with this condition. So, the only solution I can come up with is to get a weaker ball (under my Hammer Viral Hybrid) and I'm leaning towards the Ebonite Turbo/R and the Columbia Nitrous. Don't know if either of these will work but at least they are on the cheaper side so won't be a big loss if they don't. I have to say that we don't always have this condition but it happens enough that I need something I can throw when it does happen.
Thanks for your response.
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not sure if you had thought of this but some older reactive balls have a pancake block. like the hammer razyr, or some faballs or brunswick twisters.
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here is a cheap razyr if you want to try it.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Razyr-Hammer-15-Lb-Bowling-Ball/263796230041?hash=item3d6b7b0799%3Ag%3AG-MAAOSwirFbDcni&_sacat=0&_nkw=hammer+razyr&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC0.A0.H0.Xhammer+razyr.TRS0 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Razyr-Hammer-15-Lb-Bowling-Ball/263796230041?hash=item3d6b7b0799%3Ag%3AG-MAAOSwirFbDcni&_sacat=0&_nkw=hammer+razyr&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC0.A0.H0.Xhammer+razyr.TRS0)
here is some info on it as well
http://123bowl.com/bowling-balls/hammer/razyr-purple/ (http://123bowl.com/bowling-balls/hammer/razyr-purple/)
personally i would buy that ball if i had money right now, although i do get paid on friday....
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The Tundra is good choice, the Blue Vibe might also be a good fit.
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The Tundra is good choice, the Blue Vibe might also be a good fit.
Dave do you think the Vibe might be a little too close to the Viral Hybrid to have both?
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Not sure what it is, but the vibes all have a better core shell matchup than the viral for me.
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Not sure what it is, but the vibes all have a better core shell matchup than the viral for me.
I've never thrown the Vibe so I have no personal comparison. The Viral, however, has been very good for me on medium and slightly dry conditions. Just need a ball under that for really dry. Thanks for your input.
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With the situation you described, I'd definitely recommend the Brunswick Twist. To me it sounds like you're looking for length through the mids and a controlled backend reaction
https://youtu.be/x6o_iyzqL90
I think the 10.7 cover on the Turbos will be too much.
The Tundra could be an option I'm just not too familiar with the reaction in heavier weights. I know a senior bowler that got a Tundra in 13lbs because the core is 2.53/.055 and it's a little too much ball in the conditions you described.
I don't know much about the Nitrous and I've never seen or thrown one thrown in person so I can't really comment on that ball.
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With the situation you described, I'd definitely recommend the Brunswick Twist. To me it sounds like you're looking for length through the mids and a controlled backend reaction
https://youtu.be/x6o_iyzqL90
I think the 10.7 cover on the Turbos will be too much.
The Tundra could be an option I'm just not too familiar with the reaction in heavier weights. I know a senior bowler that got a Tundra in 13lbs because the core is 2.53/.055 and it's a little too much ball in the conditions you described.
I don't know much about the Nitrous and I've never seen or thrown one thrown in person so I can't really comment on that ball.
Thanks SV. I'll certainly check out the Twist. The main reason I mentioned the other balls is that our local pro-shop pushes Ebonite products and most times have those in stock. I agree on the Turbo/R with the GB coverstock. Might be too strong. I do see that one of them is a pearl and the other two hybrids if that makes any difference. Like you I have never seen anyone with the Nitrous, however, I haven't been looking for it. The Tundra looks interesting also but I've also never seen it in any of my leagues.
Again thanks for the help.
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Not sure about the other balls mentioned in this thread, but the cherry vibe would be my choice on dirt. Anything much wesker isnt going to hit unless you have a lot of hand