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Title: Need some help please.
Post by: thedjs on August 06, 2018, 10:41:27 PM
My Hammer Viral Hybrid is too strong for our new THS.  I'm forced to move a lot further left than I want to or am comfortable with.  With my slower speed this is resulting in too many high hits, cross-overs and splits.  So, before the fall season, I need to get something to fit under the Viral and am looking at the Ebonite Turbo/R, the Columbia Nitrous or the Track Tundra.  If anyone has used any of these balls I would really appreciate your suggestions as to which might be the best for the drier conditions. 

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Need some help please.
Post by: SVstar34 on August 06, 2018, 10:49:12 PM
Brunswick Twist or Columbia Scout
Title: Re: Need some help please.
Post by: JamminJD on August 07, 2018, 08:51:33 PM
Tundra is the stronger of those three. Turbo/R is about 8 boards weaker for me than the Viral Hybrid. Nitrous about 6 and Tundra about 3. All balls drilled very close and hit with used 4000 pad..
Title: Re: Need some help please.
Post by: Kegler300800 on August 08, 2018, 11:03:51 AM
Motiv Hydra. It gets down the lane and has great hitting power.
Title: Re: Need some help please.
Post by: ignitebowling on August 08, 2018, 11:08:41 AM
Practice playing deeper so you are more comfortable doing it.
Title: Re: Need some help please.
Post by: avabob on August 08, 2018, 05:29:00 PM
It has been my experience that trying to find ever weaker balls to keep from moving in is seldom successful.  The exception might be going to urethane depending on your style.  I know I am an old school stroker, but following the oil in while going to stronger equipmnt, not weaker has given me a lot of success over the years. 
Title: Re: Need some help please.
Post by: Jesse James on August 08, 2018, 06:22:44 PM
+1 on what Avabob, and Ignitebowling said!! You might as well get that practice in, rather than spending money on a new piece!

Also, JamminJD's evaluation of the three balls is spot on!!

The Brunswick Twist and Columbia Scout are going to be in that Turbo/R range or weaker!
Title: Re: Need some help please.
Post by: thedjs on August 08, 2018, 06:59:42 PM
Thanks for all the input. 
Title: Re: Need some help please.
Post by: bergman on August 09, 2018, 12:13:29 PM
For me as well. Once the THS shot burns up, I rarely have any luck staying right, even if I "ball down", and I am speed- dominant.
Title: Re: Need some help please.
Post by: thedjs on August 09, 2018, 06:26:59 PM
For me as well. Once the THS shot burns up, I rarely have any luck staying right, even if I "ball down", and I am speed- dominant.

Sounds like me except I'm in the slower speed class.  Last week I started with my feet on 25 and target at 15 (my usual position).  Then I moved to 30 and 17.  To make a long story short, I finshed with my feet on 40+/- and my target somewhere around 25 or 30.  I can't score from this deep and believe me I have tried.  I don't have a ball in my arsenal that will help me with this condition.  So, the only solution I can come up with is to get a weaker ball (under my Hammer Viral Hybrid) and I'm leaning towards the Ebonite Turbo/R and the Columbia Nitrous.  Don't know if either of these will work but at least they are on the cheaper side so won't be a big loss if they don't.  I have to say that we don't always have this condition but it happens enough that I need something I can throw when it does happen.   

Thanks for your response.
Title: Re: Need some help please.
Post by: sneaky PETE on August 09, 2018, 07:05:13 PM
not sure if you had thought of this but some older reactive balls have a pancake block. like the hammer razyr, or some faballs or brunswick twisters.
Title: Re: Need some help please.
Post by: sneaky PETE on August 09, 2018, 07:09:31 PM
here is a cheap razyr if you want to try it.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Razyr-Hammer-15-Lb-Bowling-Ball/263796230041?hash=item3d6b7b0799%3Ag%3AG-MAAOSwirFbDcni&_sacat=0&_nkw=hammer+razyr&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC0.A0.H0.Xhammer+razyr.TRS0 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Razyr-Hammer-15-Lb-Bowling-Ball/263796230041?hash=item3d6b7b0799%3Ag%3AG-MAAOSwirFbDcni&_sacat=0&_nkw=hammer+razyr&_from=R40&rt=nc&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR10.TRC0.A0.H0.Xhammer+razyr.TRS0)
here is some info on it as well
http://123bowl.com/bowling-balls/hammer/razyr-purple/ (http://123bowl.com/bowling-balls/hammer/razyr-purple/)
personally i would buy that ball if i had money right now, although i do get paid on friday....
Title: Re: Need some help please.
Post by: Dave81644 on August 09, 2018, 09:42:47 PM
The Tundra is good choice, the Blue Vibe might also be a good fit.
Title: Re: Need some help please.
Post by: thedjs on August 10, 2018, 12:08:18 PM
The Tundra is good choice, the Blue Vibe might also be a good fit.


Dave do you think the Vibe might be a little too close to the Viral Hybrid to have both? 
Title: Re: Need some help please.
Post by: avabob on August 10, 2018, 01:08:05 PM
Not sure what it is, but the vibes all have a better core shell matchup than the viral for me. 
Title: Re: Need some help please.
Post by: thedjs on August 10, 2018, 02:45:13 PM
Not sure what it is, but the vibes all have a better core shell matchup than the viral for me. 

I've never thrown the Vibe so I have no personal comparison.  The Viral, however, has been very good for me on medium and slightly dry conditions.  Just need a ball under that for really dry.  Thanks for your input.
Title: Re: Need some help please.
Post by: SVstar34 on August 10, 2018, 03:01:47 PM
With the situation you described, I'd definitely recommend the Brunswick Twist. To me it sounds like you're looking for length through the mids and a controlled backend reaction

https://youtu.be/x6o_iyzqL90

I think the 10.7 cover on the Turbos will be too much.

The Tundra could be an option I'm just not too familiar with the reaction in heavier weights. I know a senior bowler that got a Tundra in 13lbs because the core is 2.53/.055 and it's a little too much ball in the conditions you described.

I don't know much about the Nitrous and I've never seen or thrown one thrown in person so I can't really comment on that ball.
Title: Re: Need some help please.
Post by: thedjs on August 10, 2018, 03:25:41 PM
With the situation you described, I'd definitely recommend the Brunswick Twist. To me it sounds like you're looking for length through the mids and a controlled backend reaction

https://youtu.be/x6o_iyzqL90




I think the 10.7 cover on the Turbos will be too much.

The Tundra could be an option I'm just not too familiar with the reaction in heavier weights. I know a senior bowler that got a Tundra in 13lbs because the core is 2.53/.055 and it's a little too much ball in the conditions you described.

I don't know much about the Nitrous and I've never seen or thrown one thrown in person so I can't really comment on that ball.

Thanks SV.  I'll certainly check out the Twist.  The main reason I mentioned the other balls is that our local pro-shop pushes Ebonite products and most times have those in stock.  I agree on the Turbo/R with the GB coverstock.  Might be too strong.  I do see that one of them is a pearl and the other two hybrids if that makes any difference.  Like you I have never seen anyone with the Nitrous, however, I haven't been looking for it.  The Tundra looks interesting also but I've also never seen it in any of my leagues. 

Again thanks for the help.
Title: Re: Need some help please.
Post by: avabob on August 10, 2018, 04:22:09 PM
Not sure about the other balls mentioned in this thread, but the cherry vibe would be my choice on dirt.   Anything much wesker isnt going to hit unless you have a lot of hand