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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: lsf_21 on January 24, 2013, 05:45:00 PM
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I am frustrated with my current look during league. Basically the 2 looks I have are up 5 with urethane and pray for carry or thread the needle from inside where I have zero room left or right. This house is definitely where straighter is greater.
here is what I am using that is hooking too much. Ebonite Hardball, Track 505c, and storm iq tour pearl.
I am lost at what to do. It seems any pearl I drill I get over under and uncontrollable and solids roll way to early. Do I need to try a different drilling? Different ball? Just give up and quit? any suggestions are welcome.
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Automatically when I think of lower strength bowling balls, I think of the roto grip scream/shout, storm polar ice(3 piece urethane), and the storm tropical breeze. All of these bowling balls with a controlled layout should give you a much better look.
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How's is the iq pearl drilled up? If it's pin over ring and cg stacked you could try 2000 matte finish no polish to help the violent backend reaction.
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I have a NIB Rotogrip Riot if you are interested.
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the IQ tour pearl is drilled pin down between the ring and middle cg kicked out with a small weight hole. Its actually relatively smooth its just strong throughout the whole lane. If I could get a ball to have the same roll as this but about 20 boards weaker I would be happy.
The 505c is drilled pin above middle and slightly to the right with the MB just left of the thumb. I cant BELIEVE how strong this ball is. I drilled it a month ago with this drilling thinking it would be absolutely perfect for the house. It hooks almost as much as my IQ tour pearl and more snappy down lane.
The Hardball is drilled pin below ring CG center of grip. I can get an OK look with this ball. But I am still forced to move around 15 at the arrows and 5 down lane and gets very over under for me which really surprises me.
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Seismic blackout!!! Very smooth and versatile. I love mine! In the top 2-3 balls I've ever owned. It's a polished solid. Low Rg. Low Diff.
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I am lost at what to do. It seems any pearl I drill I get over under and uncontrollable and solids roll way to early. Do I need to try a different drilling? Different ball? Just give up and quit? any suggestions are welcome.
There's a big difference between being uncontrollable and getting over/under reactions. Many mild pearls are designed for length but many of those use formerly strong coverstocks (over super mild cores) that react violently when polished. They're fine for speed dominant players but not for matched or for rev dominant players. Examples of this are the Tropical Breeze & Tropical Heat pearls. Polished Reactor coverstock surfaces act very flippy for matched or rev dominant players.
What you may want to do is get a mild pearl and sand the cover stock to 3000 or 4000 grit and leave it matte. That often controls or helps to control their backend reaction on light oil lanes. It can help over/under if you're using an especially mild polished pearl that may be too weak to handle inside oil or wet/dry patterns.
Not sure how much oil you need to handle so it's hard to be more specific.
Possible balls are Scream, Ascent Pearl, Slingshot, Tropical Breeze.
By the way, the new Arson Low Flare supposedly has an extremely urethane-like overall reaction. It comes polished but with a rough grit level underneath: 1000 grit.
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Might knock the polish off the 505c and see what kind of reaction that gives me.
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LSF
I have a 505c also, and it's very strong.... expecially for a 5series....
you could try a Rico drilling on something like a 300T or 300C
or do a 5 x 5 or 4.5 pin down drilling..
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I will suggest a visionary Gladiator LE.....you can still get ahold of them: I believe bowlerscellar still has some. I really like mine...it is smooth and relatively weak depending on where you put the cover.
Brad
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are you playing on wood or synthetic? is there oil in the middle you could use to swing out, and roll up to the pocket?
i know you siad straighter is better, but i ran into some of that earier this year, and all i ran into was unpredictable oil pattern transitions playing straight up 5, as i was playing in everybody else's break point. since then, i have started to play more of the middle, putting a few more revs on the ball and tucking it in deep corner, and smashing the whole. The more revs and deeper angle have added to my ability to carry out pins, even on high and low flush hits, that i never thought would carry.
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Having some of the same issues, I recently had a RG Shout drilled up, pin above and cg kicked out. That being said, I then took a test spin, came home, added a tad more polish, and voila! Now I have a great piece for down the boards, or add a bit more hand and can get a 5-10 board swing area out to the drier with still having some pop at the pocket.
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are you playing on wood or synthetic? is there oil in the middle you could use to swing out, and roll up to the pocket?
Bowling on synthetic.
If there is oil in the middle I haven't found it. The inside seems so toasty to me. I laid off speed with my storm natural and played 15 at the arrows and 10 down lane and the ball was getting back to the pocket.
The problem with my Natural is it wont carry at all. I did throw front 10 with it a week ago, but threw it Monday and left 8 single pins in a game.
Anyway, Knocking the polish off something tonight to see if I can smooth the backend out. Will update afterwards.
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For those with knowledge, would the Versa Max be a decent option? I sometimes see similar conditions and was considering the versamax since I've read it is long and mild and versatile.
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I also give up on watching youtube videos to give me an idea on what a ball might do.
HOOK!
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My first thought is to take something like a Freeze Solid and put the pin at 2 inches from your axis and surface to 4000 with Factory Finish. That way it will be stronger than your Natural and yet not flippy off the dry and yet able to blend in any wet/dry that you may see.
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For those with knowledge, would the Versa Max be a decent option? I sometimes see similar conditions and was considering the versamax since I've read it is long and mild and versatile.
I had the versamax and its a pretty strong ball.....I recommended the Blackout, similiar motion but a bit weaker...Id drill short pin to pap for less flare and smooth motion
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You can't go wrong with the information that Charlest gave you. He is usually right on the money when it comes to ball prep for tough conditions. I like BrunsMike's suggestion as well.
I don't know what brand of balls you like, but I use an arsenal of Sonic-X's and Ultra-Sonics, prepped the way that Charlest has proposed. This gives me a variety of ways to attack the lanes and stay away from the track area being used by others. I also have an RG Riot that I use, polished, and it is smooth as silk on almost toasted lanes!
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Versa-Max, although tame, bites sorta hard on dry. If you can find some oil near the middle arrow, take advantage.
My buddy has a thing returns drilled up in such a way the block has very little to do with the motion, snd the revs and cover are the only real factor and it works quite well when he plays in the desert
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Hammer arson low flare, will be perfect for what you are seeing
im in the same boat
super smooth and arcing.
wont jump off the dry at all
OBB is 500 + polish, take the underlying surface grit up higher and its just more of the same, even smoother.
It needs to be drilled a bit stronger than you think as the dif is quite low.
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Nothing to report after tonight. They got a new oiling machine and new cleaner and the shot was terrible. 4 200 averages on the pair and no one shot average.
I was swinging my natural 15-5 on the right lane and 20-5 on the left and was fighting it hooking to much on the left lane.
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Charlest,
Where would the track 300C fit in compared to your recommendations?
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The AMF Cobra SE has a really unique ball reaction. I am still trying to figure out how to play the lanes with it and mainly because it is so much weaker than what I am used to rolling. Playing straighter is not my A game. It does hit hard and even with pin up at 5" from PAP it still rolls a lot earlier than expected.
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I had the opportunity to tour the Ebonite factory and bowl at the test center.
Met all the brand managers, was an awesome experience
Top notch company for sure
Anyways, I have all 3 of the 300 series
300c - kind of a love/hate ball, sometimes great, sometimes not, redrilled it, surfaces, etc..
300T - love this ball, weaker and predictable, layout on mine is pin just under the bridge and weight hole on PAP, short sport killer...
300A - Mitch Beasley laid this piece out for me just for the toasty shot, it has been mentioned here already, 2" pin-pap, what a great piece, wont over react at all with that short pin.
when everybody else is moving in, i can move out and stay there
Predictable move off the end of the pattern every time(unless you help it, then you see the "A" characteristic of the ball, it will jump a little)
used it a few days ago on a highway to hell pattern, dulled to 1000 by hand, moved out and threw it up 6-7, made nice move to the pocket and carried well.
My biggest problem on the friction is helping it, dryer it is, harder i throw it and more i help it.
if you help it all at on friction, you are at a disadvantage from the start.
Guys who have the good, smooth stay behind it, release seem to do much better IMO
My greastest improvement for the dry THS on wood lanes has been improving my technique, equipment is also important, but secondary in this equation
dry lane equipment
original JET
300a
arson low flare
blue hammer, U2 classic (these tend to hook way early and stop at this house)
hammer taboo spare (has weird looking carry, but carries well because of the core)
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Charlest,
Where would the track 300C fit in compared to your recommendations?
For me, the polished 300C is above the Slingshot and Trop. Breeze in oil handling and overall hook and simialr to the old Orange Recon RX-1. Dull, it is quite a bit stronger handling medium-light to true medium, very similar to its stock rougher twin, the 300T, which I can use on tougher shots to control wet/drys. It is about equal to the Ascent pearl and the Scream, but the AP has a stronger backend than either. (The Ascents are almost not entry level or light oil balls with the bowler being speed dominant or very low rev bowlers, in my opinion.)
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Nothing to report after tonight. They got a new oiling machine and new cleaner and the shot was terrible. 4 200 averages on the pair and no one shot average.
I was swinging my natural 15-5 on the right lane and 20-5 on the left and was fighting it hooking to much on the left lane.
That's just not right. Condolences. Is it polished? weak drilling?
I wish the Tropical Breeze solid were still available. It could be a good choice for you not that I hear this. BUT you'd have to use a control drilling and, at least, haze the stock polish which is far too flippy. Maybe the good looking Black Cherry Hybrid TB would be of value.
While I think the Scream could also work in this case, I'm not 100% positive. I just drilled mine up and hope to try it on Sunday or Monday. I'm pretty sure it's weaker and more controllable than the Ascent Pearl; but again, I need to prove it tomyself before recommending it.
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My first thought is to take something like a Freeze Solid and put the pin at 2 inches from your axis and surface to 4000 with Factory Finish. That way it will be stronger than your Natural and yet not flippy off the dry and yet able to blend in any wet/dry that you may see.
Steve, as per usual, has an excellent idea. Still I wonder if the Freeze Solid might not be a hair too strong for this situation. A lot depends on lsf_21's ball speed/rev rate ratio. It does come polished. If his ball speed is matched then it could work. It needs to get thru what he calls dry-ish heads; a solid with a 2" pin and medium-high differential, might not get thru those heads. That's why I was suggesting balls 1/2 - 1 notch weaker balls than the FS.
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Nothing to report after tonight. They got a new oiling machine and new cleaner and the shot was terrible. 4 200 averages on the pair and no one shot average.
I was swinging my natural 15-5 on the right lane and 20-5 on the left and was fighting it hooking to much on the left lane.
That's just not right. Condolences. Is it polished? weak drilling?
I wish the Tropical Breeze solid were still available. It could be a good choice for you not that I hear this. BUT you'd have to use a control drilling and, at least, haze the stock polish which is far too flippy. Maybe the good looking Black Cherry Hybrid TB would be of value.
While I think the Scream could also work in this case, I'm not 100% positive. I just drilled mine up and hope to try it on Sunday or Monday. I'm pretty sure it's weaker and more controllable than the Ascent Pearl; but again, I need to prove it tomyself before recommending it.
It is drilled with a "length" drilling. Pin above fingers center bridge with CG swung out with a big ole weight hole close to PAP.
Also we were bowling on 1 and 2 which always seems to be terrible.
They said with the new machine/cleaner combo they might have to put more oil on the lane and my response was we needed more oil before. At least they are open to suggestions. They are a new house that opened in April of last year and have had 4 or so 300s and 2 sets in the 780s. Problem has been the shots breaking down and its tough to put 3 games together. Biggest league in the house is 50 bowlers and there are around 10-15 200 averages.
The last 3 sets I bowled before last night I have had high games of 289, 269, and 253. The problem has been losing carry. Monday I go 269 and proceed to leave 8 single pins and shoot like 180.
Hopefully Monday is better. It is roll off so I am worried we will be on lanes 1 and 2 again.
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What is insane to be about last night is that the right handers were throwing. DV8 nightmare, IQ tour pearl, virtual gravity, Chainsaw, and mission 2.0.
The guy with the nightmare has a considerable amount of hand and the one thorwing the chainsaw matches his revs/speed well.
Maybe I just need more ball speed but I feel 17 (what the screen reads) is enough. When I get quicker my accuracy goes to the crapper.
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If you're scoring that well in games 1 & 2 with the Natural, I wouldn't change a thing.
A go-to ball like the Scream or the 300A may be all you need for the 3rd game.
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is there something in your game you changing throughout the night, however subtle it may be? are you a stroker, tweener, or cranker?
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Black/Silver Tropical Heat Hybrid would be a nice ball for you to try. It's not overly strong and is very smooth in the back.
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I have a video. I will post it later tonight. Its a different house and such but you can see how i bowl.
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I have the scream, a tropical breeze and a silver recon, all drilled with the pin above and in between the fingers. The recon is the weakest and smoothest of the three. I also have a slingshot and a hammer nail with a fuller roller drilling (pin just to right of thumb and in the track-i'm a lefty and not a full roller) on both. I sometimes catch the thumbhole but it really doesn't affect the roll. They are both very long, but the nail is super smooth and is my main ball on our light ths.
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Have you considered a Ripsaw? Lane 1 balls generally roll smoother more arc like for me. The Ripsaw would definitely be on my short list for weaker control pieces.
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Couple of videos for anybody that wants to see
Mission 2.0 drilled with the "do not drill" layout. Wearing a wrist brace due to some issues I was having at the time I shot it. Use it when I start to get to wristy on shots.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv9LLI8Mn5Y
Motiv recon drilled pin over ring.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLm7AT5wp4o
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natural pearl or wait for the supernatural(hybrid) coming soon.
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Any idea with the Super Natural will be out?
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february
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Any idea with the Super Natural will be out?
But you said, "It seems any pearl I drill I get over under and uncontrollable ..."
A pearl urethane is not going to be any different; that's why one of my original suggestions was to sand a mild pearl like the Scream to 4000 grit!
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I would think the urethane in the hybrid would smooth the backend out. Im probobly wrong, but thats what I would have thought
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I would think the urethane in the hybrid would smooth the backend out. Im probobly wrong, but thats what I would have thought
I think the Hybrid part is it's half pearl and half solid, but all urethane (which these days does contain some resin)
It should smooth out the backend, but over/under is more a left/right function, than a front/rear function. At least it's always been that way for me.
Since it's a highly polished urethane, it should definitely be a go-to, drop down ball from the solid Natural. It should also enable you you to stay further into the dry/track areas.
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Definitely going to see what happens with the "add more oil" this week
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I second the BlackOut it has easy length and a smooth backend motion. Use a controlled layout get and NO polish 4000 abralon or 2000 siair getting the ball into a roll a little early will help take away the over under
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Slingshot. Its a proven pearl cover with a simple core
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+1... blackout!
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+1... blackout!
To all the Blackout reommenders,
Yes, the Blackout is an excellent ball. I certainly like mine, but
1. It is a whole lot stronger than a Natural, and
2. It ain't smooth for everyone!
If you have lots of ball speed, it is probably very smooth. It you have matched speed/revs, it can be smooth. If you're rev dominant, it ain't smooth.
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I'm new here but you really seem to know your stuff. Thanks for all the feedback you provide.
+1... blackout!
To all the Blackout reommenders,
Yes, the Blackout is an excellent ball. I certainly like mine, but
1. It is a whole lot stronger than a Natural, and
2. It ain't smooth for everyone!
If you have lots of ball speed, it is probably very smooth. It you have matched speed/revs, it can be smooth. If you rev dominant, it ain't smooth.
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Im tapping out on what to do.
They actually "added more oil" to the point I am rolling the IQ tour pearl 10-5. I threw my rogue cell tonight (the strongest ball I have EVER thrown) and was rolling it smooth 10-5 on beat up shot from the previous night. It is a business league thats un-sanctioned 2 games just for fun.
I shot 279-244. Where is this on a real league night.
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I am a big fan of two lower differential solids.
The Rotogrip Sonic X solid(slightly weaker than today's Rotogrip Shout). Also the Ascent Solid 2000 and polished for me is a little weaker but lots of smoothness and pop!.
I believe the Ascent Solid or the Shout are in my mind great especially if it looks like there is no hold area in the middle or the shot is shorter in the 35 foot range!
They react dramatically smoother than their pearl counterparts on my scorched end of the pattern desert!
Regrds,
Lucklefty.
PS I frequently find they carry by twirling them over 10 out to about 5 by standing 24 and doing all that before 30 feet, when executed like this, oh my....some POP!
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check out my mini review on the arson low flare
http://www.ballreviews.com/hammer/arson-low-flare-t292344.0.html
will be perfect if you drill it properly
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Charlest,
Have you put your comments on your Scream versus the Ascent Pearl somewhere out here?
Regards,
Luckylefty
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Charlest,
Have you put your comments on your Scream versus the Ascent Pearl somewhere out here?
Regards,
Luckylefty
I don't have the Ascent Pearl. I was looking for someone who had it and the Scream to compare what they saw.
The Scream is stronger in the backend than the Hardball. So it wouldn't be a solution for the original poster. Besides he seems now to be seeing more oil than these balls can handle.
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I had the same issues late last season. I actually owned the 505C and the Hardball and they were both too much.
Picked up a Grey Slingshot to play right up 8 and shot my only 800.
The ball hits very hard from that angle if you have speed.
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I had very similar issues for sometime until our house starting using a longer and higher volume house pattern.
I was stuck in between a Columbia Freeze and Storm Natural. When the Natural carries, games are big. It's just a big step down from a ball like the Freeze, a supposedly "low end" ball. Like you, when the Natural wasn't carrying, single pin leaves and buckets were the norm. That usually happens when the Freeze was too strong and it was too early to drop down to urethane.
I did get the Tropical Breeze which fills the hole quite nicely. I just don't need it anymore since I see more volumes now.
We did a few reviews on the Breeze.
http://tamerbowling.com/index.php/storm-frantic-and-virtual-gravity-nano-pearl-ball-reviews/
The above link is a look at a complete arsenal and you can get a sense for how the Breeze Solid compares to the Tropical Heat Solid, Nano Pearl, Victory Road, and Nano.
http://tamerbowling.com/index.php/storm-tropical-breeze-hybrid-ball-review-digitrax/
The above link is a review of the Hybrid. It's a view from the left side compared to the Hy-Road. You will see what a huge difference it is from something like the Hy-Road.
We have the full reviews and Digitrax analysis so it should be more to go by than just a video.
Good Luck.
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House moved to kegels main street and the shot is much better.
Actually shot my first 300 the first day using the shot. All downhill from there
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I had a hard time with Main Street in terms of equipment use. That's actually why I got the Tropical Breeze. Like you, I'd have a look from deep like 18 to 7 (I'm lefty) or more direct. I could only score big from deep inside on occasion.
Ever since switching to Kegel Stone Street with more volume and 42 ft, I wouldn't need to touch the Breeze.
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The bullet train lets me get about straight as anything I've ever thrown. Early roll but doesn't ever seem to over react. Its marketed as a high end release but the one i drilled for me and the other 2 I've drilled are really straight and Carries well. I had to mess with the surface a lot to get it just right but it definitely will get some use now....
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The bullet train lets me get about straight as anything I've ever thrown. Early roll but doesn't ever seem to over react. Its marketed as a high end release but the one i drilled for me and the other 2 I've drilled are really straight and Carries well. I had to mess with the surface a lot to get it just right but it definitely will get some use now....
We did find very similar, but it's not a "weak" piece. It does have great control and continuation.
Here's our review.
http://tamerbowling.com/index.php/900-global-bullet-train-bowling-ball-review-with-digitrax-analysis/
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I have found my success on main street paying about 15-5 with a strong pearl drilled weak. I cannot pay straighter no matter what ball I throw. I have no room left that way but I can tug it in a few boards and it will hold.
I have thought about going with a weaker ball and playing closer to 15-10 to maximize area.
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I didn't say it was weak. I called it straighter and very controlled....left to right it is fairly straight which will make people call it weak. Even tho front to back its pretty strong.
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I didn't say it was weak. I called it straighter and very controlled....left to right it is fairly straight which will make people call it weak. Even tho front to back its pretty strong.
Right, agree. Was just reminding lsf_21 in case he is considering it that it's not. Like what you see, we saw the same; it is not a big left to right ball, but it does generate strong entry angle and is very continuous. But key and to your point, you can play it more direct.
Plus, we haven't seen the Bullet Train shine itself up the way most Storm stuff we test does.
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agreed. I honestly didn't like mine because it didn't do anything in the back OOB but I messed with the surface enough now that I like it has enough kick but lets me stay in the track and it pretty much won't go too high in the pocket unless its time to move.
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I'm going to dredge up this thread because I am experiencing this same problem down to the T and there doesn't seem to be much consensus on a good solution since the original poster's alley changed up the pattern. I bowl in two leagues at my house, one is on fresh oil, the other follows a women's league with a lot of straight bowlers. My house uses a long (44ft) and light oil pattern that usually breaks down severely by midway through the second game. I typically start with my Wicked Encounter (drilled weaker) or my Frantic and find that I completely lose my carry by the middle of the second game (with the wicked) or get very sharp over/under reactions (with the frantic). Midway through this winter I purchased a tropical Heat hybrid which is drilled similar to the Frantic (pin above, right of ring finger) in hopes of finding a more controllable ball during this transition and while I find it to be smoother than the frantic on the backend, it too becomes very over under by the late-second, third game. I usually end up switching back to my wicked by the 3rd game and trying to throw it hard down 14-15 and try to take the lanes out of it. I find the dull coverstock seems to help smooth the broken down lanes out but doesn't give me much room for error. There is usually a bit more oil in the middle but I am not very comfortable playing really deep inside and tend to struggle with consistency when I do. It seems to me the best scorers in my house throw very straight down the boards with old, weak equipment but they start leaving lots of 10 pins by the last game. Things get especially tricky on the night we bowl second shift and there is often a fair amount of carry down which causes the balls that save the energy for the backend to be very unpredictable on the wet/dry carry down. You can throw 2 shots almost identical and one will snap back through the headpin and the other will come in flat. The outside boards are generally very dry at this house. I am looking for a ball I can play that will give me a fair amount of forgiveness during that transition period and when the lanes are completely toast. I find that when I miss shots, they are more often misses right (right handed) and the ball catches the dry boards and snaps back either through the head pin or Brooklyn. I was looking at the Roto Grip scream/shout or a storm tropical breeze pearl or hybrid but can't decide what my best option is. I am currently struggling to put good a series together: I tend to be higher scoring the first game (220s), very low second game (180s) and then right around 200 the third game. Any help would be greatly appreciated. If additional info would help, let me know. Thanks!
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The 2 pieces I am waiting to try are the storm super natural and the true blood by hammer. True blood is plastic with the First Blood core. First company since Lane 1 to put out plastic with a core that I am aware of. I have the XXXL and when I have truly dry lanes, XXXL still carries well due to the core.
I am SO rev dominate I am always looking for weaker pieces since I can make a slingshot look like the most aggressive ball ever made. I can't even dream about throwing syncs or virtual gravity. I will hook it off the lane.
I have a Lane Master's Hornet that is my goto ball that I hope never cracks.
And I have a pink and purple hammer urethane from the 90's that I use regularly.
Hoping the new stuff will meet my needs.
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A while ago I had a LM Black Pearl drilled axis leverage and loved the reaction. I could basically stand 20 right of normal and play the dry without too much over reaction. Try drillling also.
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I got a super natural drilled up last week. Ball is super awesome
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What does it do? And what is the backend like?
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Have you tried putting surface on the tropical heat to smooth out some of the over under??? i would stay away from the breeze shout or scream. On a wet dry condition they will likely make the over under you are seeing even worse.....
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I have a 900G hook hybrid with a double thumb layout. Weakish cover/core...but rolls smooth. Keep the cover with matte finish.....the price is cheap ;-)
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Have you tried putting surface on the tropical heat to smooth out some of the over under??? i would stay away from the breeze shout or scream. On a wet dry condition they will likely make the over under you are seeing even worse.....
This. Try some odd surface combinations to dial it in if you need to. My driller just turned my Cobalt Vibe into a great control ball by putting it at 360+polish. I haven't tried a house shot yet where I can't just stroke that ball up 10.
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I got a super natural drilled up last week. Ball is super awesome
Have you gotten a chance to throw it on a similar condition to the one you had during your league yet? How do you find the carry to be on missed shots? I was suggested urethane by a friend of mine but I don't know that my accuracy and consistency is good enough to make good use of urethane.
Have you tried putting surface on the tropical heat to smooth out some of the over under??? i would stay away from the breeze shout or scream. On a wet dry condition they will likely make the over under you are seeing even worse.....
Hmmm...I hadn't considered that...I do like my Heat for certain opening conditions at my house with the OTB cover but I really haven't messed with the cover to see if there's something that would work even better. Any suggestions on where to start with the cover? I have messed around with the frantic cover before and hated the reaction. I changed it from 1500 polished to 1000 abralon and found that it took too much of that awesome backend away that drew me to the frantic in the first place. And just curious but what is your reasoning for staying away from the breeze/scream/shout? Is it that they conserve too much energy for the backend which in my case is often unpredictable?
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They changed the shot to something slightly heavier. With the SN I can play left and not have to feel like I need to "throw" it to keep it left. I threw it conpared to my IQ and I was 10 boards right with my feet and getting it out further left at the breakpoint.
As for the reaction. When I keep it right and more in the oil it makes a smooth transition to the pocket, it wasnt really a "hook". If I throw it left it was hit or miss. Soft speed and it hooks back beautifully. The slightest amount firm and it skates. For me its best playing straighter on the shot thats out. I can see this ball being awesome on drier shots.
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They changed the shot to something slightly heavier. With the SN I can play left and not have to feel like I need to "throw" it to keep it left. I threw it conpared to my IQ and I was 10 boards right with my feet and getting it out further left at the breakpoint.
As for the reaction. When I keep it right and more in the oil it makes a smooth transition to the pocket, it wasnt really a "hook". If I throw it left it was hit or miss. Soft speed and it hooks back beautifully. The slightest amount firm and it skates. For me its best playing straighter on the shot thats out. I can see this ball being awesome on drier shots.
I have the SN ordered and should be throwing it Monday. I also have IQ Tour Pearl pin up that was too strong so surfaced to 2000, 3000, 4000 then polish which did great on fresh house practice(I bowl straight from the right, around 1st arrow) but when league started, the lanes breaking down forced me to move inside. I'm hoping I see good reaction from SN to use when after my IQ and considering Light out for smaller step down from IQ but from what I've read so far that ball is stronger than expected
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Release and cover prep is what you need to adjust.
Polish is going to make the ball jump more on the backend, even of you have surface under it. Do not overdo the polish.
I use my heat hybrid at 500/1000 for this problem. I use a very light coat of polish to give me a slightly more angular movement and hit off the dry. I adjust up or down from there depending on the oil volume.
Two weeks ago I used a Champion to combat the same condition. 500 with Beans sauce. Shot my highest series of the year.
Last week I decided to experiment so I pulled out my Nexus and put 500 and polish on it. I shot. I lt gave the best look on wood lanes with a big puddle in the middle and burnt out track by the end of the first game. I shot 266 the first game and had the front seven the second game.
It helps if you can adjust your axis rotation and ack off on revving the ball a bit.