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ignitebowling

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Bowling alone
« on: January 19, 2018, 09:55:55 AM »
My bowling first started around 1995-96 and many of you have been around bowling for much longer. We are often fed the stories of how great bowling was....wall to wall leagues any day of the week, morning leagues, late leagues, people bowling leagues for as far as the eye could see. That has rapidly declined. Many centers over the years have closed and many with the loudest voices blame it on bowling being too easy. Too many refuse to believe it has anything to do with the changes in society and the larger options in entertainment. Heard a book, Bowling Alone, mentioned on a talk show the other day in reference to the decline in several different social sports and sports in general along with other social groups and organizations in society. After reading a little over the premise of the book it seems pretty on par with what we have seen and many have tried to discuss with the decline in bowling. Not from a being too easy factor, but from a social change.

Why some choose to believe that in the golden era everyone loved bowling because it was hard and consisted of half board adjustments playing on the 3rd or 4th board I do not know, maybe it helps ones ego.Many videos available as far back as the 1940s and 1950s show professional bowlers playing 3rd or 4th arrow regularly...not 3rd or 4th board. Bowling is every bit as fun today as it ever has been. It can be as easy or as hard as one chooses. So despite USBC trying to define bowling as more of a sport to seem legitimate in the world, or all of the older PBA players saying the equipment made the game too easy...that it needs to go back to when...insert ball era here, instead continue enjoying bowling for what you think it is, not what others try to shame you into believing.

Most bowling centers like other businesses have fallen behind on the times. Most centers and leagues operate off of the same business model as they did in the 1950s. Open doors, offer 36 week leagues, and wait for people to sign up to bowl. Try offering anyone you know the chance to come bowl for 36 consecutive weeks and see the look of crazy you get. Bowling is still great. Once you get passed the hype of equipment sales the rest is pretty straight forward. Try and knock down as many pins as possible. interesting to look at if you get a chance.


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Re: Bowling alone
« Reply #46 on: January 24, 2018, 10:48:12 AM »
Holman had excellent technique for that era. Releasing the ball during the slide facilitated accuracy--- a must in that era. Today's game places much more emphasis on creating power and area through late timing and dynamic wrist action. On sport shots today, there is still a premium on accuracy but there is a bigger premium on hand action. That was a no-no in the old days due to the conditions and equipment of the earlier era. I do believe that some of the best players of today would have done well back in the "day", and some, perhaps even better. But I would venture an educated guess that they would not be lofting gutter caps or banking the gutter, with wide open shoulders to boot. Some posters have pointed to a few old videos of players in the 1950s shooting big numbers playing up the 10 board. That did happen, but not very often. In those days we had to contend with burned out heads, high boards, low boards, lanes dressed with hand held oil guns. More often than not, if you wanted to score, you had to keep your angles strictly in front of you--- no leaking to the right of target, no matter how many revs you might have had. And you had to throw the ball SLOW on those conditions or your rubber ball would deflect off those solid pins like silly putty (pins were not top heavy like the double voided pins of today).  Anybody who claims that they averaged 200+ in those days fell into one of 2 categories: 1. They were either the BEST bowlers in their region or, 2. They were bowling on blocked conditions (illegal at that time, not like the standard THS today).

Let's try to give credit to the best bowlers of each of these eras. The very best developed physical games that BEST fit the conditions and equipment of their time.
That includes the likes of Marshall Holman and Belmo. 

I seldom get my "heckels up" but on this subject, I must, because I bowled in both of these eras. Those who claim that bowling back in the old days was easier simply do not know what they are talking about and those who demean the incredible talent
needed to prevail on today's challenge conditions have obviously never put on their shoes and tried to compete with the talented kids of today.

For record did bowl in the eighties in a four wood lane ancient house in rural Iowa (lanes often broke down too) so trust me I know it wasn't easier back then.  And honestly as talented was Holman was in his prime with modern training and equipment he could compete today for sure but probably not with that style.  I don't buy sliding increased accuracy because he was one of the only early top pros ever from any era.  Roth sure wasn't sliding well after release (he was hitting up big time as you had to do back then and will say that is because of equipment, and again both of them would have been able to kick my ass probably when they were 12 years old).  I think he succeed in spite of the deficiencies in his style not because of it, though his athleticism which probably wouldn't fly today with the equipment and training and such but I am sure he would find a way to succeed for sure.  A champion is a champion because at the top level its mostly mental.
« Last Edit: January 24, 2018, 11:06:37 AM by HackJandy »
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Re: Bowling alone
« Reply #47 on: January 24, 2018, 11:44:20 AM »
The game changed s bunch in the early 70 s when non red label urethane lane finish replaced lacquer.  It was this change that brought Roth and Holman to the fore front, and a bunch of lessor power players who followed.  Holman was smooth to the line, unlike Roth, but he was a high rev player who took carry to another level with the soft polyester balls that pretty much made hard rubber obsolete during this time. 

One thing I think people don't realize is that the top centers in hot bed bowling cities like St Louis, Detroit, Seattle and LA, were very high scoring even back to the 60's.  Not like today because of the carry, but easy to the pocket.  The modern scoring explosion started with the introduction of the soft polyester balls.  In our city association there had been 2 800 series in the history of the assoc prior to 1975.  In the 1975 season their were 6.  My own average went from 199 to 214 when I switched to polyester that season.  Around the city the number of 200 averages went way up.  Our city was not near as high scoring as Seattle or Portland.  I remember bowling a team tourney in Portland about that time where we averaged 220 per man over 12 games.  We finished 3rd. 

By the 80s when urethane balls came in and walled up shots were legal as long as the oil didn't go past 24 feet, averages continued to climb.  I was usually close to 220, and hit 225 a couple of times during the 80s.  It was also during the 80' that power began to get even more rewarded that accuracy.  Roth and Holman had paved the way, but by the mid 80's a bunch of guys with more wrist cup  and less accuracy were winning on tour. 

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Re: Bowling alone
« Reply #48 on: January 24, 2018, 12:49:21 PM »
The game changed s bunch in the early 70 s when non red label urethane lane finish replaced lacquer.  It was this change that brought Roth and Holman to the fore front, and a bunch of lessor power players who followed.  Holman was smooth to the line, unlike Roth, but he was a high rev player who took carry to another level with the soft polyester balls that pretty much made hard rubber obsolete during this time. 

One thing I think people don't realize is that the top centers in hot bed bowling cities like St Louis, Detroit, Seattle and LA, were very high scoring even back to the 60's.  Not like today because of the carry, but easy to the pocket.  The modern scoring explosion started with the introduction of the soft polyester balls.  In our city association there had been 2 800 series in the history of the assoc prior to 1975.  In the 1975 season their were 6.  My own average went from 199 to 214 when I switched to polyester that season.  Around the city the number of 200 averages went way up.  Our city was not near as high scoring as Seattle or Portland.  I remember bowling a team tourney in Portland about that time where we averaged 220 per man over 12 games.  We finished 3rd. 

By the 80s when urethane balls came in and walled up shots were legal as long as the oil didn't go past 24 feet, averages continued to climb.  I was usually close to 220, and hit 225 a couple of times during the 80s.  It was also during the 80' that power began to get even more rewarded that accuracy.  Roth and Holman had paved the way, but by the mid 80's a bunch of guys with more wrist cup  and less accuracy were winning on tour.

Bowling is bowling.  The technology constantly changes and perhaps scores go up but bowling the sport is still graded on a curve.  Every eras champions had to earn it.
Kind of noob when made this account so take advice with grain of salt.

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Re: Bowling alone
« Reply #49 on: January 24, 2018, 03:16:56 PM »
The game changed s bunch in the early 70 s when non red label urethane lane finish replaced lacquer.  It was this change that brought Roth and Holman to the fore front, and a bunch of lessor power players who followed.  Holman was smooth to the line, unlike Roth, but he was a high rev player who took carry to another level with the soft polyester balls that pretty much made hard rubber obsolete during this time. 

One thing I think people don't realize is that the top centers in hot bed bowling cities like St Louis, Detroit, Seattle and LA, were very high scoring even back to the 60's.  Not like today because of the carry, but easy to the pocket.  The modern scoring explosion started with the introduction of the soft polyester balls.  In our city association there had been 2 800 series in the history of the assoc prior to 1975.  In the 1975 season their were 6.  My own average went from 199 to 214 when I switched to polyester that season.  Around the city the number of 200 averages went way up.  Our city was not near as high scoring as Seattle or Portland.  I remember bowling a team tourney in Portland about that time where we averaged 220 per man over 12 games.  We finished 3rd. 

By the 80s when urethane balls came in and walled up shots were legal as long as the oil didn't go past 24 feet, averages continued to climb.  I was usually close to 220, and hit 225 a couple of times during the 80s.  It was also during the 80' that power began to get even more rewarded that accuracy.  Roth and Holman had paved the way, but by the mid 80's a bunch of guys with more wrist cup  and less accuracy were winning on tour. 

Are you sure it was less than 24 feet?  I remember clearly ensuring lanes were oiled at least 24 feet.

And there are still several USBC records (top 5) from the pre-resin period.

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Re: Bowling alone
« Reply #50 on: January 24, 2018, 05:10:48 PM »
If the oil was shorter than 24' and the house had declared as a "short oil house" then all they did was measure the distance, the pattern didn't matter.  If it was longer the oil pattern had to be in compliance.  Houses that didn't declare as short had to be in compliance no matter what distance was on the lane.


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Re: Bowling alone
« Reply #51 on: January 24, 2018, 05:28:46 PM »
Maximum was 24 feet, unless oil was applied evenly gutter to gutter.  That rule was changed in 1989 to system of bowling that required 3 units of oil out to the gutter.  24 foot rule was ridiculous because there was no requirement to strip, thus lanemen walled them 10 to 10  then let the carry down build up for a week or more. 
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Re: Bowling alone
« Reply #52 on: January 24, 2018, 11:21:00 PM »
Maximum was 24 feet, unless oil was applied evenly gutter to gutter.  That rule was changed in 1989 to system of bowling that required 3 units of oil out to the gutter.  24 foot rule was ridiculous because there was no requirement to strip, thus lanemen walled them 10 to 10  then let the carry down build up for a week or more. 

Boy, I remember those days. I picked up the game seriously in '88, started bowling in a league in '89 when all that change was just flying at us. My home house, which was 50-plus-year-old wood (top score in that house's history was a 286 shot by a 130-average straight-ball rolling female using a 12-pound Galaxy 300; less than 10 700s ever shot there all-time) was on the short oil system and they stripped the lanes Monday morning. By the time you got there on the weekends to practice, you had 5-6 days of carrydown buildup. No two lanes were even remotely alike. And when they did oil, it was a bug sprayer and then a guy walking a mop with a towel tied around it down the lane. We used to have a set of footprints on every lane straight up the middle arrow. People used to wonder how the teams from our little house used to dominate tournaments in south Alabama and northwest Florida; when you bowled on what we did during the week, it was no mystery at all. "Involuntary handicap management" is what it was.

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