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bowler100

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Particle balls with a Urethane base
« on: July 07, 2019, 03:56:57 PM »
Other than the Visionary Midnight Scorcher, are there any other bowling balls classified as "particle" which utilized a urethane base instead of being a reactive resin?
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Re: Particle balls with a Urethane base
« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2019, 04:34:58 PM »
Probably more but one that came to mind.

http://123bowl.com/bowling-balls/ebonite/gyro-particle/
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Re: Particle balls with a Urethane base
« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2019, 06:12:27 PM »
Excuse me being behind the times but when did resin become a base rather than urethane being the base to which resins were added

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Re: Particle balls with a Urethane base
« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2019, 06:31:37 PM »
Okay, you got me! ;D I fixed it for ya.

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Re: Particle balls with a Urethane base
« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2019, 08:03:53 PM »
Love my Midnight Scorchers...the only other one that I am aware of has already been mentioned, the Ebonite Gyro Particle Urethane. I had one of those at one time, and although I liked the "shape of the shot" that I got, on the "heavier" league shot I played on that season(back 2010-2011 approx.) , the fact that it was a pancake weight block and not a full sized core was really noticeable in the hit(which is why I no longer have it)

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Re: Particle balls with a Urethane base
« Reply #5 on: July 07, 2019, 08:20:52 PM »
First particle balls appeared about 22 years ago.  Brunswick, Storm,  Columbia,  Faball, all had popular particles.  To my knowledge, all of them were urethane base, and all had some amount of resin additives.
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Re: Particle balls with a Urethane base
« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2019, 01:16:38 AM »
First particle balls appeared about 22 years ago.  Brunswick, Storm,  Columbia,  Faball, all had popular particles.  To my knowledge, all of them were urethane base, and all had some amount of resin additives.
That was what I was thinking. I never threw much of the Midnight Scorcher (it was not even my ball) and have not seen it thrown in action in about ten years (I was a teen then). I always had the impression that the urethane base combined with the particles in the Scorcher gave it a slightly distinct look on the lane compared to other high load particle balls. It appeared to hit the pins harder than any other high load particle ball. It also seemed to roll super early in the front part of the lane with a very slow (yet continuous) curve yet it hit like a tank. It also did not "stand up" in the slightest when it started to make its move.

 

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Re: Particle balls with a Urethane base
« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2019, 07:26:59 AM »
It also seemed to roll super early in the front part of the lane with a very slow (yet continuous) curve yet it hit like a tank. It also did not "stand up" in the slightest when it started to make its move.
sounds like that columbia epoxy ball
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Re: Particle balls with a Urethane base
« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2019, 12:01:20 PM »
I had some great luck with partcle balls in the late 90s up to about 03..  Mostly Brunswick, Deep Violet Zone, Riot Zone, Impact Zone.  Also Storm El Nino.   Most particles were difficult to maintain.  Brunswick was better than Storm or Columbia. 
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Re: Particle balls with a Urethane base
« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2019, 01:10:37 PM »
It also seemed to roll super early in the front part of the lane with a very slow (yet continuous) curve yet it hit like a tank. It also did not "stand up" in the slightest when it started to make its move.
sounds like that columbia epoxy ball
Actually,  there are some parallels between the Scorcher and EPX. I don't have a Scorcher to compare to the EPX right now. I am pretty sure the Scorcher would still roll through the slickest oils much better than the EPX. On the other hand, the EPX would look more assertive in responding to dry boards compared to the Scorcher. Pretty similar shape but the EPX needs more dry boards to work but when it does hit friction, it charges left very smoothly. The EPX will out hook the Scorcher on anything except the slickest of lane conditions.

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Re: Particle balls with a Urethane base
« Reply #10 on: July 08, 2019, 01:36:14 PM »
I had some great luck with partcle balls in the late 90s up to about 03..  Mostly Brunswick, Deep Violet Zone, Riot Zone, Impact Zone.  Also Storm El Nino.   Most particles were difficult to maintain.  Brunswick was better than Storm or Columbia.
I still throw a Storm El Nino today; I believe it is reactive. With that said, it still has a very heavy rolling arc and continuous backend. It can still work on medium volume oil patterns today. The best of the El Nino line by far!


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Re: Particle balls with a Urethane base
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2019, 01:36:39 PM »
i brought this beat to hell fear factor to a pro shop and asked them if they wanted it and the guy said if he brought it back to the box surface it would be fuzzy
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Re: Particle balls with a Urethane base
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2019, 02:20:39 PM »
All of the balls I mentioned including ElNino were reactive with a particle load.

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Re: Particle balls with a Urethane base
« Reply #13 on: July 08, 2019, 03:55:04 PM »
i brought this beat to hell fear factor to a pro shop and asked them if they wanted it and the guy said if he brought it back to the box surface it would be fuzzy
Many of the old Storm/Roto Grip particle balls had a fuzzy texture to it. It was the soft particles they used. Don't be fooled, most of these balls will get through the front part of the lane easily as long as you have fresh oil up front.

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Re: Particle balls with a Urethane base
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2019, 03:57:54 PM »
i have a seek and destroy that works great for a straighter shot. i have it at 1500 polish and it has a mild skid flip.
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