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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: kiefenstien on February 03, 2022, 09:16:50 AM
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The PBA Tour will ban wrist supports with “restrictive material†such as steel or plastic supportive bracing starting Jan. 1, 2023. The new rule applies only to PBA Tour competition, not PBA50 or PBA Regional competition, or PBA50 or PWBA players in doubles/team events with PBA players.
PBA announced to ban Plugged Bowling Balls from 2023.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGnBwz20GRY
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This is kind of a slippery slope.
Does this mean that the Storm Power Plus glove that Arturo Quintero used will be banned? It has interchangeable pads that attach to the palm to change the angle of the ball in the hand. It can be used with or without the removable support bar inside the glove. Regardless, even if used without the support bar it is still influencing the ball roll.
The plugged ball rule makes sense.
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This is kind of a slippery slope.
Does this mean that the Storm Power Plus glove that Arturo Quintero used will be banned? It has interchangeable pads that attach to the palm to change the angle of the ball in the hand. It can be used with or without the removable support bar inside the glove. Regardless, even if used without the support bar it is still influencing the ball roll.
The plugged ball rule makes sense.
My assumption would be yes because of the pads
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Dang it, and I was gonna join the tour when I turn 60 in a couple of months.
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The PBA Tour will ban wrist supports with “restrictive material†such as steel or plastic supportive bracing starting Jan. 1, 2023. The new rule applies only to PBA Tour competition, not PBA50 or PBA Regional competition, or PBA50 or PWBA players in doubles/team events with PBA players.
PBA announced to ban Plugged Bowling Balls from 2023.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGnBwz20GRY
Way to go PBA! Keep on thinning out the herd. At this rate, along with the plugged ball ban they'll be lucky to get 25 new entries at their next tournament. LOL
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This is kind of a slippery slope.
Does this mean that the Storm Power Plus glove that Arturo Quintero used will be banned? It has interchangeable pads that attach to the palm to change the angle of the ball in the hand. It can be used with or without the removable support bar inside the glove. Regardless, even if used without the support bar it is still influencing the ball roll.
The plugged ball rule makes sense.
I think if the metal plate is removed, it would no longer be a wrist support. The rule doesn't say anything about a palm pad. The palm pad is not plastic or metal.
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According to multiple PBA members I've seen address this question, the Storm glove Arturo used will still be legal.
I have that glove, by the way, and when I was a two-hander it had a lot of benefit to helping the ball sit a certain way in my hand, but when I put my thumb back in the ball, I have to use the biggest pad and turn it around upside-down almost to get it to contact the ball's surface while I'm holding it. The biggest benefit to using it is that the index and pinky finger material is tacky. I personally don't think it works as intended.
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Is Chad going to make an exception for the women? Several of the ladies use a metal brace.
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Is Chad going to make an exception for the women? Several of the ladies use a metal brace.
Oops, sorry. Got my a'holes mixed up. Is Tom gonna make an exception for the women?
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Here's the rule-
9.2.5 Use of Wrist Supports. Use of Wrist Supports, with any type of restrictive material such as a steel or plastic supportive brace that holds the wrist in a relatively neutral position, basically immobilizing the joint completely, will not be allowed for use in PBA Tour competition beginning January 1, 2023. Tape, gloves, and other supportive wristbands without these restrictive qualities of supportive steel or plastic will be allowed.
PENALTY: 1st Offense - Warning PENALTY: 2nd Offense - PBA Code of Ethics Violation – Disqualification
NOTE: Wrist Supports will be allowed in PBA50 Tour and PBA Regional Tour events. Furthermore, if PBA Tour/PBA50 Tour or PBA Tour/PWBA Tour doubles, or other forms of team tournaments are held, the PBA50 and PWBA players will be allowed to use wrist supports
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Here's the rule-
9.2.5 Use of Wrist Supports. Use of Wrist Supports, with any type of restrictive material such as a steel or plastic supportive brace that holds the wrist in a relatively neutral position, basically immobilizing the joint completely, will not be allowed for use in PBA Tour competition beginning January 1, 2023. Tape, gloves, and other supportive wristbands without these restrictive qualities of supportive steel or plastic will be allowed.
PENALTY: 1st Offense - Warning PENALTY: 2nd Offense - PBA Code of Ethics Violation – Disqualification
NOTE: Wrist Supports will be allowed in PBA50 Tour and PBA Regional Tour events. Furthermore, if PBA Tour/PBA50 Tour or PBA Tour/PWBA Tour doubles, or other forms of team tournaments are held, the PBA50 and PWBA players will be allowed to use wrist supports
According to this, the Vise wrist supports wouldn't be allowed, but the Storm C4 would. If i'm reading this correctly.
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Why?
Pretty sure even the Storm robo wrister isn't going to be allowed.
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The Storm C4 allows the wrist to bend forward. The Vise support locks your wrist in place.
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I've got another "hopefully" potential ban that could come down the pike.....say one of the guys on the pba your decides to indentify as a woman and enters all the lpbt events, that would certainly be a cry foul moment.
Brad
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Now that would be comical!!!
Who would be the first to blow a gasket over that
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Should have stopped the 2 handed nonsense
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The Storm C4 allows the wrist to bend forward. The Vise support locks your wrist in place.
Hey, Milo! Good to see you! Been a while.
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Should have stopped the 2 handed nonsense
Should’ve stopped the robo-arm nonsense.
There, fixed it for you.
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I assume this only applies to PBA events. If not, a lot of seniors, like myself, who suffer from arthritis and just plain old age, won't be bowling next year.
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I assume this only applies to PBA events. If not, a lot of seniors, like myself, who suffer from arthritis and just plain old age, won't be bowling next year.
You bring up an interesting question.. would this also apply to PBA50 and PBA60 events?
BL.
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Just read the rules and quit posting on this pathetic site which is troll heaven
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I assume this only applies to PBA events. If not, a lot of seniors, like myself, who suffer from arthritis and just plain old age, won't be bowling next year.
You bring up an interesting question.. would this also apply to PBA50 and PBA60 events?
BL.
No, it's just the national tour.
Should have stopped the 2 handed nonsense
Should’ve stopped the robo-arm nonsense.
There, fixed it for you.
Wouldn't be so many robo-arm bowlers if coaches would actually teach adult bowlers the proper technique and not have a bias that people of a certain age can't learn how to get their hand in the proper position to put revolutions on the ball.
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svengali,
Could your post be any more laughable or lacking of empathy towards senior citizens or those with arthritis or physical difficulties? Sometimes a person should type up a post and then sit for five minutes and then read it. Most times they would not post it. You're wrong but it's probably not the first time.
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svengali,
Could your post be any more laughable or lacking of empathy towards senior citizens or those with arthritis or physical difficulties? Sometimes a person should type up a post and then sit for five minutes and then read it. Most times they would not post it. You're wrong but it's probably not the first time.
Did you take the time to read my post yourself? I have a great deal of empathy for those bowlers and was sticking up for them. I have carpel tunnel myself and used wrist devices myself until I switched to two-handed.
The basic wrist supports will do the job of protecting one's wrist. No one "needs" an adjustable metal wrist device in order to bowl. That said I have no objection with anyone using them at the USBC level (including the open). I just don't like them being offered as a permanent fix for delivery issues when good coaching should be able to do that and more.
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Just read the rules and quit posting on this pathetic site which is troll heaven
So sayeth the person who did the self own by complaining about two-handed bowlers not having the strength to do what others do one handed, then gets upset about that very same insult. You have no credibility to tell others what to do. Perhaps practicing what you are preaching is in order.
BL.
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Unfortunately I never said that go back and reread the thread I was pointing out that some meathead said two handers are weak which I disagree with. So nice try
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Unfortunately I never said that go back and reread the thread I was pointing out that some meathead said two handers are weak which I disagree with. So nice try
Your lack of memory is on the same level as your lack of credibility:
Two handed bowling is no different. It lets guys who aren’t physically strong enough to do it with one hand to use their second hand to help generate power
Nice backhanded comment on two handed bowlers not being strong enough your a fool
In one sense you are staying that two-handed bowlers aren't strong enough to do what one-handed bowlers do so they have to use their other hand to generate that power... Then you complain about a comment about 2-handed bowlers not being strong enough, yet you did the same exact thing.
Those were all you. My point stands. Let alone the calling of trolling. Practice what you preach.
BL.
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And that's Jenga
:o ;D
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Hey stupid The comment was meant to be sarcastic I was not agreeing get it together man
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Milo another clueless gem on this site
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Sticks and Stones...but at least I'm not a dumbass.
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The first quote you accused me of was juggernaut’s post I replied to. What makes you think your not a dumbass every thing you post proves otherwise
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Hey stupid The comment was meant to be sarcastic I was not agreeing get it together man
you calling someone stupid? you are biggest troll on this site; I expect better from you. this is a weak attempt at trolling and you should be ashamed.
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The first quote you accused me of was juggernaut’s post I replied to. What makes you think your not a dumbass every thing you post proves otherwise
I haven't "accused" you of anything. I just stated an opinion.
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Hey stupid The comment was meant to be sarcastic I was not agreeing get it together man
Backtracking to save face is often the poor excuse and tack to try when one has been called out and proven a fool. Thank you for meeting the description of the very insult you tried to give others.
Again, practice what you preach, although that is more than a lost cause.
BL.
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:( www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0JvF9vpqx8 ::)
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Should have stopped the 2 handed nonsense
AMEN !!!
No wrist support devices allowed ..... other than your other hand. ... WTF ??
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Should have stopped the 2 handed nonsense
AMEN !!!
No wrist support devices allowed ..... other than your other hand. ... WTF ??
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Luke Rosdahl on his podcast summed this one up very succinctly: A second hand is not a device, it's a technique. And bowlers can either master a technique, or botch it up.
A wrist device that locks your hand into a certain position, however, is going to do the same thing every time with no effort.
Not to mention we are still calling what Troup, Belmo, et al do as "two-handed" bowling when there is really no such thing. It's just no-thumb bowling with an exaggerated off-hand carry into the swing. None of these guys have a second hand on the ball at release.