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Title: PBA Oil Pattern Difficulty ratings
Post by: adman on September 08, 2008, 07:50:31 AM
Hello all,
Can I get some opinions please. For your eveyday League bowlers, can you rate these patterns in order from hardest to easiest. I was just looking for a shot a little more challenging than your typical house shot, but nothing that is going to be too tough.

Thank you

Chameleon - 40 feet
Cheetah - 36 feet
Scorpion - 42 feet
Shark - 44 feet
Viper - 38 feet
Title: Re: PBA Oil Pattern Difficulty ratings
Post by: K2PBA12x on September 08, 2008, 03:54:26 PM
The way I tend to play the lanes, my ratings are as follows:
From easiest to most difficult

1. Viper
2. Cheetah
3. Shark
4. Scorpion
5. Chameleon
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Title: Re: PBA Oil Pattern Difficulty ratings
Post by: Locke on September 08, 2008, 04:00:45 PM
Easy to hard I would go

Cheetah
Viper
Shark
Scorpion
Chameleon
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Title: Re: PBA Oil Pattern Difficulty ratings
Post by: Raven829 on September 08, 2008, 04:08:34 PM
This is based on last years patterns.  I haven't bowled enough on the modified new ones yet.  Easiest to hardest.

Scorpion
Cheetah
Chameleon
Shark
Viper

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Title: Re: PBA Oil Pattern Difficulty ratings
Post by: pegleg42090 on September 08, 2008, 04:20:54 PM
easy to hard-

viper
cheetah
scorpion
shark
chameleon
Title: Re: PBA Oil Pattern Difficulty ratings
Post by: tdub36tjt on September 08, 2008, 04:46:26 PM
I am surprised to see so many people say the Chameleon is the hardest (I'm thinking because people aren't comfortable getting deep?). I would say:

1. Scorpion
2. Chameleon
3. Viper
4. Cheetah
5. Shark



Title: Re: PBA Oil Pattern Difficulty ratings
Post by: Joe Jr on September 08, 2008, 04:50:41 PM
Cheetah
Viper
Chameleon
Scorpion
Shark

Easiest to hardest for me. I've been averaging over 210 on the Cheetah/Viper and about 175 on the Shark...
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Title: Re: PBA Oil Pattern Difficulty ratings
Post by: On Fire on September 08, 2008, 05:03:54 PM
Viper
Chameleon
Scorpion
Cheetah
Shark

From easiest to hardest. My good games have been on the Viper and Chameleon but struggled alot on the Shark, barely get a 500 series off of that pattern.
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Title: Re: PBA Oil Pattern Difficulty ratings
Post by: Strider on September 08, 2008, 05:06:10 PM
For me, easiest to hardest was:

Chameleon
Cheetah
Scorpion
Shark
Viper

So many factors.  Lane type and surface, lane machine and oil, how effective the stripper is, running tapes to make sure it was applied right...  And after all of that, each bowler's statistics will help them match up better to different things.

I would think Viper would be a good place to start.  It's about the same length as many league shots and it can be attacked from all parts of the lane.  I think I did much better on Viper last year (different house), but I wouldn't shy away from a tournament on Viper at the same house I struggled at.
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Title: Re: PBA Oil Pattern Difficulty ratings
Post by: adman on September 08, 2008, 07:50:08 PM
Thanks for the input. So it looks like the Viper would be a nice step up from a typical "House shot"? They put out the Chameleon and high scores were around the 220's. But it gave lots of bowlers a head ache. Viper may be a little friendlier? But I hope not too easy. Nothing crazy like 279's or 289's.
Title: Re: PBA Oil Pattern Difficulty ratings
Post by: bragbowlin on September 08, 2008, 08:12:21 PM
Chameleon
Cheetah
Scorpion
Shark
Viper


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Title: Re: PBA Oil Pattern Difficulty ratings
Post by: CPA on September 08, 2008, 08:30:01 PM
It really depends on the lane surface.  For example, for me, Cheetah on wood is much easier than on synthetics.  I can't seem to find the right combination of ball roll, speed and entry angle on the synthetics.
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Title: Re: PBA Oil Pattern Difficulty ratings
Post by: 86camaroman on September 08, 2008, 08:38:49 PM
It depends on every bowler individually because some you play deep some you play straight up so they are not the same difficulty for everyone
Title: Re: PBA Oil Pattern Difficulty ratings
Post by: Dan Belcher on September 08, 2008, 10:04:33 PM
In my PBA Experience league on synthetic lanes...

Chameleon
Scorpion
Shark
Viper
Cheetah

The Cheetah pattern absolutely kicked my azz up and down.  I just could not find a line to the pocket, worst over/under reaction I've ever seen.  The longer patterns treated me well, and I had a good look some of the time on the Viper, but not consistently.
Title: Re: PBA Oil Pattern Difficulty ratings
Post by: streamline on September 08, 2008, 10:18:30 PM
Easiest to hardest from my experiences

Cheetah
Viper
Scorpion
Shark
Chameleon
Title: Re: PBA Oil Pattern Difficulty ratings
Post by: JessN16 on September 08, 2008, 11:08:59 PM
Easiest -> Hardest

1. Viper
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2. Scorpion
3. Chameleon
4. Shark
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906. Cheetah

Jess
Title: Re: PBA Oil Pattern Difficulty ratings
Post by: Curly on September 09, 2008, 09:45:47 AM
For the average house bowler? I think that ALL the patterns are equal as far as playability and difficulty goes. Ok, maybe the chameleon could be a little tougher. As tdub36tjt mentioned, a deep inside line might be outta the average league bowlers realm.
Listen, Ive bowled on them all and, in all honesty, have never found them to be THAT difficult.......until the patterns get blown out and carried down. Thats when the cursing and head scratchin starts. lol! Ive never bowled on a pba pattern in a 3 game league setting. Always been at least 5 and its ALWAYS late in the 3rd game when i gotta start making major adjustments.
I would think that the average 3 game/night league bowler could handle any one of those shots. Give them a few weeks to get used to it and let em go. Of course, pba or walled up house shot, ya gotta have SOME kind of consistency with your speed and accuracy. Spares on either type of shot are equally important as well.
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Title: Re: PBA Oil Pattern Difficulty ratings
Post by: adman on September 09, 2008, 10:18:38 AM
That makes sense. Its just that they put out the Chameleon pattern on the first day of Fall/Winter leagues and alot of bowlers were ticked off and had a hard time. But they complained that the original house shot was too easy and that there were too many HIGH scores.
Maybe I'll suggest the Viper Pattern? That may be a little harder than the house shot, on synthetic lanes. Again, I'm just guessing.
Title: Re: PBA Oil Pattern Difficulty ratings
Post by: lsf_21 on September 09, 2008, 12:30:28 PM
maybe you should just take the regular house shot and modify it. dont make such a drastic change and go to a sport shot but flatten out the house shot some.. make it a little tougher but still keep the house shot feel that everyday lg bowlers want... if they want to bowl on a pba shot offer and pbax lg.
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Title: Re: PBA Oil Pattern Difficulty ratings
Post by: Curly on September 09, 2008, 12:32:09 PM
quote:
bowlers were ticked off and had a hard time. But they complained that the original house shot was too easy and that there were too many HIGH scores


Now isnt THAT ironic. lol
Listen, any pba pattern is gonna be tougher than a wall. Take whichever the house gives ya. Whats the difference really? I mean, Ive seen just about every kind of bowling style score well on all the pba patterns. Just because the chameleon may favor a deep inside line, it DOESNT mean that you cant score by playing down and in. Sounds like those bowlers are just bein bowlers. Whatever the shot, theyll get used to it and eventually stop gettin mad or complaining that its too tough. lol. good luck!
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Title: Re: PBA Oil Pattern Difficulty ratings
Post by: CPA on September 09, 2008, 06:23:50 PM
Last year in our city tournament, Cheetah was used.  There was so much complaining, the local association said they will never use a PBA pattern again.  Bowlers say they want a tougher shot until they actually bowl on it.  Then their egos get in the way and they want to go back to the THS.
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Title: Re: PBA Oil Pattern Difficulty ratings
Post by: Xcessive_Evil on September 09, 2008, 06:40:40 PM
Scorpion
Chameleon
Viper
Cheetah
Shark
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