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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: JPbowling151 on February 12, 2017, 02:16:32 PM
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Anyone besides me got a little tired of the 1..2..3 rah rah chanting? Also, it was pretty surprising to see Belmo not get one ball to flush the pocket all match, the new Timeless looks like it has a ton of length and carries the off hits really well...then again it could just be the product of Belmo's 600+ rev rate. lol Looks like it'd be a great later block or a nice league condition ball for us lower rev guys. Guess I'll have to drill one out and see for myself!
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The chants made it a very hard show to watch. They didn't need to do that on every mark. I watched the last 2 matches on mute.
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I didn't see any problem with it . in fact it was nice to see people get excited for bowling!
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PBA stated huge ratings for the last show prior to todays. lets face it, people left
on after the game and they gauge ratings on those numbers ----- BS ratings, was at my neighbors who left espn on after the game, inflated ratings our wives and us had no idea bowling was on until the end.
today, chanting equals begging please make this more exciting than it is we need sponsors to stick around and begging the audience to interact and simply screams please help get some excitement much like an nba game etc...
maybe some realize, some do not, the big push for an exciting month of live shows is only existent due to there is NOTHING else on. come on guys common sense please.
the only reason these shows exist is to promote the latest/greatest equipment (except the haywire) to keep the ball companies shelling out a ridiculous amount of money to be "PBA registered/approved" its all a sham.
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Great thing about the show today was the bowling was fun to watch. It didn't need the gimmick chanting. Nice to see this month with an actual tour and not 5 tournaments in a week.
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PBA may not be the same like it was before on TV and but I'm VERY HAPPY it is still on TV.
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My thoughts:
- The young talent in bowling right now is phenomenal. Simonsen, Pickford, and Chapman are so young and really really good. Bowling as a sport's future is bright no matter how much money is involved. I hope sponsors pick up on this going forward.
- The chanting/cheering is not awesome. Just let people cheer the way they want. It seemed so forced/not natural.
- I am not a Belmo hater at all but dude did himself no favors at the end of the show...Turning to the crowd and saying "Number 7" = FIGJAM/douche. Not waiting till Simonsen was done to pick up the trophy - not awesome. Dude didn't even shake Simonsen's hand after the match (at least not on camera)...just not a great showing of respect towards his opponent or the game in my opinion.
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My thoughts:
- The young talent in bowling right now is phenomenal. Simonsen, Pickford, and Chapman are so young and really really good. Bowling as a sport's future is bright no matter how much money is involved. I hope sponsors pick up on this going forward.
- The chanting/cheering is not awesome. Just let people cheer the way they want. It seemed so forced/not natural.
- I am not a Belmo hater at all but dude did himself no favors at the end of the show...Turning to the crowd and saying "Number 7" = FIGJAM/douche. Not waiting till Simonsen was done to pick up the trophy - not awesome. Dude didn't even shake Simonsen's hand after the match (at least not on camera)...just not a great showing of respect towards his opponent or the game in my opinion.
"FIGJAM/Douche" hahahaha, classic
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I really like all of the new talent that is upcoming on the PBA. I also am not a Belmo hater, but there is something about him that irks me. I also think that the PBA needs to take a lesson from the PWBA, because I enjoy the women's tour shows much better!
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The bowling itself was good. It shows how hard it is to bowl on some of these PBA patterns. It's scary when Belmo, at 600 RPM's, had a hard time getting his ball to turn the corner. I'm not a two handed fan, but he was masterful taking what the lanes were giving him.
The chanting and clapping?? It reminded me of being at my daughter's high school basketball games. From my perspective, it was annoying, contrived, and out of place for a professional tournament. I hope this is just a phase that will soon pass.
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I'm not a Belmo lover, but give him his due. He hasn't won in two years. I think he got
complacent, put on some weight and frankly he may have been momentarily "shell shocked" by the success of other two hander e.g. Simonson, Maulando, Swensson (sorry for any errors in name spelling).
In the off season, he lost a lot of weight, re-dedicated himself to his game and came out ready to prove to himself he can still be a major force in the game.
Seven majors in what 8/9 years is quite a feat. The true test is can he continue to again dominate? Only time will tell. Stay tuned!
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The chants are stupid, clearly brought forth by that announcer dude that clearly doesn't bowl.
Timeless infact doesn't look as good as we hoped go figure...Same as the phaze and fight lol.
Belmos disrespect to simonsen could be from all of the other 2 handers taking his spot light ....I almost wanna root for him more now....He's the o.g.
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Oh and where in God's name was belmos speed control...That's why Pickford and Simonson had a better look. SLOW DOWN JEEZ...
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Found myself rooting for Belmo and a couple of years ago that would never happen. The young kids have been kinda showing him up. I do think however the bunch of young players are great for the game. I even liked the chants. From a post above I agree for someone my age I like the PWBA telecasts better. Oh, I did not need Randy P telling me what seemed like 2 or 3 times a frame that Belmo needed to square it up.
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I wasn't crazy about the cheering either but it was better than 10 years ago when they were trying to get everyone to cheer during the players shots not after.
From the bowling perspective it was fun watching them on a shot where if they missed much they wouldn't hit the pocket.
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My thoughts:
- The young talent in bowling right now is phenomenal. Simonsen, Pickford, and Chapman are so young and really really good. Bowling as a sport's future is bright no matter how much money is involved. I hope sponsors pick up on this going forward.
And the list of young stars keeps going. Svensson, Tackett, Kent, Lavoie, etc. etc. Its really a fun time to watch, especially as an Xtra Frame subscriber. Game after game, there's usually someone on the live stream pairs worth watching.
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My thoughts:
- The young talent in bowling right now is phenomenal. Simonsen, Pickford, and Chapman are so young and really really good. Bowling as a sport's future is bright no matter how much money is involved. I hope sponsors pick up on this going forward.
- The chanting/cheering is not awesome. Just let people cheer the way they want. It seemed so forced/not natural.
- I am not a Belmo hater at all but dude did himself no favors at the end of the show...Turning to the crowd and saying "Number 7" = FIGJAM/douche. Not waiting till Simonsen was done to pick up the trophy - not awesome. Dude didn't even shake Simonsen's hand after the match (at least not on camera)...just not a great showing of respect towards his opponent or the game in my opinion.
"FIGJAM/Douche" hahahaha, classic
Finally saw the match today, and yea. Belmo definitely could have waited to celebrate and get in front of the camera after Anthony was finished bowling. Not a good look at all.
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My thoughts:
- The young talent in bowling right now is phenomenal. Simonsen, Pickford, and Chapman are so young and really really good. Bowling as a sport's future is bright no matter how much money is involved. I hope sponsors pick up on this going forward.
- The chanting/cheering is not awesome. Just let people cheer the way they want. It seemed so forced/not natural.
- I am not a Belmo hater at all but dude did himself no favors at the end of the show...Turning to the crowd and saying "Number 7" = FIGJAM/douche. Not waiting till Simonsen was done to pick up the trophy - not awesome. Dude didn't even shake Simonsen's hand after the match (at least not on camera)...just not a great showing of respect towards his opponent or the game in my opinion.
"FIGJAM/Douche" hahahaha, classic
Finally saw the match today, and yea. Belmo definitely could have waited to celebrate and get in front of the camera after Anthony was finished bowling. Not a good look at all.
It happens all the time. Anytime the show is running long they will do whatever they can to shorten it up. Many times they start the awards celebration once the winner is done, even if the other bowler is just bowling out.
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Just about every telecast I've seen over the past 2 years the champion has gone over to get the trophy while the other bowler finishes up. I always thought it was rude, but assumed the PBA encouraged it due to time constraints? Maybe trying to cram more commercials in to make some money? Even when the telecast looks like it will finish a little early they often fast track through coverage. In the opening match they skipped Pickford's 10th frame and I think both the 9th and 10th for Chapman.
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Found myself rooting for Belmo and a couple of years ago that would never happen. The young kids have been kinda showing him up. I do think however the bunch of young players are great for the game. I even liked the chants. From a post above I agree for someone my age I like the PWBA telecasts better. Oh, I did not need Randy P telling me what seemed like 2 or 3 times a frame that Belmo needed to square it up.
Just my .02 worth. I don't think it's that the "kids" are showing up Belmo, it's the fact that it's VERY hard to bowl two handed the older you get. Just as it is very hard to throw with a lot of revs, the older you get., Ask Robert Smith.
What made bowling so great is that it once "WAS" a life time participation sport. It took years to become good enough to compete at high levels week in and week out, until you put the time honing your skills and learning different releases and good speed control. Unfortunately, with this high rev game, you are going to see the champions be younger, and last for fewer years, because it will be very hard to continue this type of play older in life.
As long as they keep using oil patterns that makes the backend of the lane play tight, and the fronts hook if you don't have a lot of speed, you are going to see this style of play, and continually from "younger" guys.
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Found myself rooting for Belmo and a couple of years ago that would never happen. The young kids have been kinda showing him up. I do think however the bunch of young players are great for the game. I even liked the chants. From a post above I agree for someone my age I like the PWBA telecasts better. Oh, I did not need Randy P telling me what seemed like 2 or 3 times a frame that Belmo needed to square it up.
Just my .02 worth. I don't think it's that the "kids" are showing up Belmo, it's the fact that it's VERY hard to bowl two handed the older you get. Just as it is very hard to throw with a lot of revs, the older you get., Ask Robert Smith.
What made bowling so great is that it once "WAS" a life time participation sport. It took years to become good enough to compete at high levels week in and week out, until you put the time honing your skills and learning different releases and good speed control. Unfortunately, with this high rev game, you are going to see the champions be younger, and last for fewer years, because it will be very hard to continue this type of play older in life.
As long as they keep using oil patterns that makes the backend of the lane play tight, and the fronts hook if you don't have a lot of speed, you are going to see this style of play, and continually from "younger" guys.
What makes it not a lifetime participation sport? The fact that people in their athletic prime are better than people in their 50s and 60s? Of course it's a young guys sport - it's a SPORT.
Still, you'd be hard pressed to find any other lifetime participation sport where people the ages of PDW, PB3, and WRW can still consistently compete. Have you checked out the winners list for the PGA Tour last season? Tennis is a lifetime participation sport for many, and Federer is a freak for making it as long as he has. Skiing? Racquetball? Running? Swimming? Cycling?
Lifetime participation does not mean a lifetime of being competitive in ANY sport. Bowlers are lucky to be able to truly compete as long as we are able to, especially at a local/regional level.
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What makes it not a lifetime participation sport? The fact that people in their athletic prime are better than people in their 50s and 60s? Of course it's a young guys sport - it's a SPORT.
Still, you'd be hard pressed to find any other lifetime participation sport where people the ages of PDW, PB3, and WRW can still consistently compete. Have you checked out the winners list for the PGA Tour last season? Tennis is a lifetime participation sport for many, and Federer is a freak for making it as long as he has. Skiing? Racquetball? Running? Swimming? Cycling?
Lifetime participation does not mean a lifetime of being competitive in ANY sport. Bowlers are lucky to be able to truly compete as long as we are able to, especially at a local/regional level.
The target market for bowling has always been those less "athletically" gifted and aren't necessarily going to make the football or basketball teams in high school. I'm not saying "athletes" don't bowl, but lets be realistic as to what it takes to bowl, compared to what it takes to play football. Two completely different skill sets. You are decreasing the potential pool of participants even further by turning it into a "young kids" game. For bowling to be sustainable, you need to be able to have many years to make your income as a professional. It won't take long to have the next potential "super stars" deciding to go in a different direction than bowling, because they won't be able to compete long enough or make enough money to sustain a comfortable living.
Just to be clear, I'm speaking as someone who has coached Saturday youth bowling for the past 20 years, so I see what the demographic is.
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Ever been to a college bowling tournament? Those cheers they were doing were straight out of a college tournament. It is so unprofessional.
Just another reason Tom Clark has to go. Nothing he has done has improved the PBA tour.
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Lofting the ball 15 feet down the lane IS NOT bowling!
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Lofting the ball 15 feet down the lane IS NOT bowling!
Did it involve people throwing a bowling ball down bowling lanes at bowling pins trying to get strikes/spares? If your answer is yes, then it is in fact bowling.
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Loft a ball 15 feet in the bowling alleys I bowl in you will be told to stop or don't come back.Some people seem to think Synthetics are indestructible.
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#getoffmylawn. You old, bitter schmucks amaze me. Go plug in your VCR, dig up your VHS tapes and watch that if you don't like what's on today.
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#getoffmylawn. You old, bitter schmucks amaze me. Go plug in your VCR, dig up your VHS tapes and watch that if you don't like what's on today.
Just because the ball doesn't "dent" the lane, the way it used to on wood surfaces, doesn't mean that lofting a 15-16 lb object 10-15 feet down lane isn't doing damage to the structural integrity of the lane. The topography will be affected, which affects ball motion.
it has nothing to do with modern, it has to do with reality.
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Lofting the ball 15 feet down the lane IS NOT bowling!
Mark Roth wasn't bowling either. But look how that turned out.
Get over it don't be bitter
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Same people complaining about lofting the heads are probably using charcoal to blow up the heads.
#truth
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Oil gets replaced on the lane. Topography isn't so easy to fix.
#truth
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Oil gets replaced on the lane. Topography isn't so easy to fix.
#truth
Maybe they should use more oil up front, or surfaces that are not so high in friction
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Oil gets replaced on the lane. Topography isn't so easy to fix.
#truth
Maybe they should use more oil up front, or surfaces that are not so high in friction
Agreed.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXBYO8IV2y8
An early match of Mark Roth 1975. You gotta love the color commentator--I believe it is Dick Webber.....after Roth's 7th frame shot he says "He just cranked the living daylights out of that ball" . If they used a center like that now, this weeks finalists wouldn't be able to move way left like they did this week.
Brad
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I didn't even notice the chanting. I was too busy enjoying the matches and rest of the telecast.
BUT, there is a segment that I really hate and that's the opening titles when Belmo screams, Ciminelli screams, Rash screams, etc. Enough with the screaming already! If I wanted to hear screaming I'd go down to the basement with a basket of lotion...
I mean, uh, never mind that last part. :o
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I didn't even notice the chanting. I was too busy enjoying the matches and rest of the telecast.
BUT, there is a segment that I really hate and that's the opening titles when Belmo screams, Ciminelli screams, Rash screams, etc. Enough with the screaming already! If I wanted to hear screaming I'd go down to the basement with a basket of lotion...
I mean, uh, never mind that last part. :o
Someone got the hose again, I see...
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Yes Precious, she will get the hose again....haha