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Title: Pearls: Where did all the tall cores go?
Post by: earlyrolling on May 23, 2017, 01:46:48 AM
I was perusing balls online recently looking for a ball with a pearl cover and a tall, skinnier core, for a more true skid-flip motion.  The only ball I saw that fit that bill was the yet-to-be-released Honeybadger.  Why are all the cores these days fat, pudgy things?
Title: Re: Pearls: Where did all the tall cores go?
Post by: Juggernaut on May 23, 2017, 08:22:53 AM
I was perusing balls online recently looking for a ball with a pearl cover and a tall, skinnier core, for a more true skid-flip motion.  The only ball I saw that fit that bill was the yet-to-be-released Honeybadger.  Why are all the cores these days fat, pudgy things?

 Fat pudgy things lend themselves to lower rg ratings, and those tend to make the ball smoother and "rollier" than tall cores do.  Smoother and "rollier" lends itself to predictability, which many bowlers prefer over the skid/snap reaction you can get with higher RG ratings.

 The ballcos make whatever they think will sell in bigger numbers. Right now, it looks like fat, pudgy cored things are in fashion for the most part.
Title: Re: Pearls: Where did all the tall cores go?
Post by: BallReviews-Removed0385 on May 23, 2017, 08:32:07 AM

The low RG cores rev up easier than the taller ones, which is usually a safe bet with the masses. 
I'd say that my Quantum Fire Pearl would qualify for what you describe, it doesn't rev up as easily, and thus saves a bunch of energy for the last half of the lane.
Title: Re: Pearls: Where did all the tall cores go?
Post by: SVstar34 on May 23, 2017, 10:53:11 AM
There aren't too many nowadays. As much as I like low rg cores, on house shots taller and/or light bulb shaped cores have been money for me.

My recommendation would be to look at light bulb shaped cores and also cores that are wider at the top and get skinnier at the bottom
Title: Re: Pearls: Where did all the tall cores go?
Post by: Impending Doom on May 23, 2017, 11:29:19 AM
With that core shape, I like the Boosts out of what's in production right now. I have a pearl drilled 5*35 with no hole and it gets down the lane just fine. If you could find one, the reactive Hypes were great cores too.
Title: Re: Pearls: Where did all the tall cores go?
Post by: 2handedrook12 on May 23, 2017, 12:00:27 PM
I'd like to see the Pitch Core with a reactive cover.
Title: Re: Pearls: Where did all the tall cores go?
Post by: Bowl_Freak on May 23, 2017, 12:42:36 PM
I would think the Paradox series from Track would be what your seeking. I dont know if they are going to be discontinued or not but they have the taller I-core.
Title: Re: Pearls: Where did all the tall cores go?
Post by: CoorZero on May 23, 2017, 01:25:37 PM
I believe the Freestyle and Freestyle Rush from Motiv fits the bill too. Not sure how strong of a ball you're looking for though.
Title: Re: Pearls: Where did all the tall cores go?
Post by: AlonzoHarris on May 23, 2017, 03:03:49 PM
Just get a Hy-Road Pearl. Shapes on the lane like the style of core you're looking at and it's a pearl.
Title: Re: Pearls: Where did all the tall cores go?
Post by: Brandon Riley on May 23, 2017, 05:00:04 PM
Higher RG + Pearl can easily translate into a ball that can be sensitive to oil.
The Brunswick Fanatic is one of the flippiest balls that I've thrown.  Its a high RG/higher diff pearl that even as a pin down is too much for me at the breakpoint on most patterns.
Title: Re: Pearls: Where did all the tall cores go?
Post by: HackJandy on May 23, 2017, 05:29:20 PM
For hell of it listing the highest RG pearl balls I found in my 30 sec search (not an exhaustive list but fairly complete).

Storm   Street Fight   2.62
900 Global   Desert Hook   2.61
Jet   Pilot   2.6
Motiv   Freestyle Rush   2.6
Motiv   Primal Impulse   2.6
Columbia 300   Deep Freeze   2.59
Motiv   Ascent Apex   2.59
Motiv   Ascent Apex Pink/Green Pearl   2.59
Motiv   Ascent Pearl   2.59
Motiv   Freestyle   2.59
Motiv   Recon RX1 Silver   2.59
Roto Grip   Unhinged   2.58
Storm   Joy Ride   2.58
Storm   Wise Man   2.58
Track   400A Special Edition   2.58
Track   Tour X   2.58
Brunswick   Strike King   2.578
900 Global   Wisdom Red/Silver   2.571
900 Global   Desert Ops   2.57
900 Global   Rip It   2.57
Radical   Slant HD   2.57
Roto Grip   Bandit   2.57
Roto Grip   Loco Pearl   2.57
Roto Grip   Scream   2.57
Title: Re: Pearls: Where did all the tall cores go?
Post by: Impending Doom on May 23, 2017, 06:01:39 PM
If you can get a Jet Pilot, do it. It's basically a 900 Global Link and that weight block is the bomb on the friction.
Title: Re: Pearls: Where did all the tall cores go?
Post by: Walking E on May 23, 2017, 10:03:56 PM
On the plus side, I just found a new way to describe myself on a dating profile: "Low RG". That's way more appealing than calling myself a "fat, pudgy thing." Thanks!  ;D
Title: Re: Pearls: Where did all the tall cores go?
Post by: charlest on May 23, 2017, 11:34:35 PM
Just a thought, but in recent times, the shape of the core seem to have much less to do with the ball's reaction than it used to. I've seen plenty of tall, "thin" cored balls have a smooth reaction, plus I've seen plenty of round-ish cored balls have a flippy reaction.

While the standard still holds, "70% of a ball's reaction is determined by the coverstock/surface", other than the bowler,'s portion of the "blame" for the ball's reaction,  a ball always equals cover + core. Besides that, one can always influence the ball's designed-in reaction by using drillings, including pin-PAP distances, VAL angle and Drilling angle, as well as the surface preparation.

So, in summary, I'd worry more about the basic design of the ball + your own style of bowling much more than I'd worry about the shape of the core.
Title: Re: Pearls: Where did all the tall cores go?
Post by: earlyrolling on May 24, 2017, 01:43:26 AM
Thanks all for the feedback.  I had assumed that taller cores would naturally allow a ball to retain more energy than a fat, pudgy core (all else being the same). Was looking for a pearl that would work well playing tight deep on a medium volume, long pattern so ball would tip (with quick transition layout) with enough angle to carry.
Title: Re: Pearls: Where did all the tall cores go?
Post by: HackJandy on May 24, 2017, 09:46:27 AM
> Was looking for a pearl that would work well playing tight deep on a medium volume, long pattern so ball would tip (with quick transition layout) with enough angle to carry.

Granted its pricey but for a symmetric pearl few balls go deeper and turn harder than a Scandal Pearl (medium to heavy oil conditions).  Being a symmetric core in theory its break point should be a bit easier to control than say a Snap Lock (disclaimer personally never thrown a Snap Lock, but pretty much it along with the Tyrant Pearl are the ultimate skid flip balls for medium to heavy oil).  As an earlier poster said maybe the Quantum Fire (medium conditions specialist) is something to look into as well (though that ball is pricey as well).  If looking at mid cost stuff awful tough to beat some of the storm balls imho especially for medium and THS conditions.
Title: Re: Pearls: Where did all the tall cores go?
Post by: Impending Doom on May 24, 2017, 10:42:23 AM
Another ball that would work is a Dark Matter. Get them on clearance now too!