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Perception vs Reality
« on: November 12, 2014, 02:01:53 PM »
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Re: Perception vs Reality
« Reply #46 on: November 13, 2014, 06:05:34 PM »
Bowling ball are tools to enhance a bowlers attributes...and do NOTHING on their own...no matter what a video does or doesn't tell you


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Re: Perception vs Reality
« Reply #47 on: November 13, 2014, 08:37:11 PM »
But what were the ending statics for each ball?

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Re: Perception vs Reality
« Reply #48 on: November 13, 2014, 08:54:49 PM »
Don't be that guy......
…… you can't  add a physics term to a bowling term and expect it to mean something.

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Re: Perception vs Reality
« Reply #49 on: November 13, 2014, 09:12:15 PM »
Don't be that guy......

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Re: Perception vs Reality
« Reply #50 on: November 14, 2014, 12:11:53 AM »
But what were the ending statics for each ball?

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Re: Perception vs Reality
« Reply #51 on: November 14, 2014, 10:30:45 AM »
People will be cynics and critics no matter what's used to compare one product to another. You can let them set the parameters and if the results prove not to be in their favor, they'll cry foul, foul, foul.

I've personally asked Phil why should I even consider a Guru as opposed to other pieces out there on the market, including an Intellect and the original Mastermind. I was impressed that he took the time to answer my questions with some of the data that he'd amassed in testing the Guru.

As for the video comparison of the other bowling balls, it pretty much confirmed what I had suspected about most of them. But the fact is that if you like a certain ball manufacturer, you're pretty much going to stick with that company and defend that company until they begin producing a bunch of junk.

I mean, I've gotten a bit of grief among some of the bowling peers I've come to know since my return to bowling in my using Brunswick/Radical equipment. Just about all of them use Motiv and Storm/Roto Grip. Does the bowling ball(s) they use make them that much better than me? I doubt it very seriously. It's my observation that it's a matter of preference for what equipment I use and what they use.

I used to be in the car business. And I remember very rarely you could talk a Toyota/Lexus owner into owning a Honda/Acura or Nissan/Infiniti, and likewise a Honda/Acura owner into owning a Toyota/Lexus or Nissan/Infiniti, or a Nissan/Infiniti owner into owning a Toyota/Lexus or Honda/Acura. They pretty much were brand faithful. It would have to be something very extraordinary to convince them otherwise. I would venture to say it would be the same thing with a bowling ball.
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Re: Perception vs Reality
« Reply #52 on: November 14, 2014, 01:04:05 PM »
That shot w/the Deadly Aim..............wow!   :P  :P  :P  :P
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Re: Perception vs Reality
« Reply #53 on: November 14, 2014, 01:14:27 PM »
That shot w/the Deadly Aim..............wow!   :P  :P  :P  :P

Someone alert Dave81644 or whatever his name his so he can come defend Hammer/EBI.
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Re: Perception vs Reality
« Reply #54 on: November 14, 2014, 02:37:43 PM »
So we set up a test. Set the parameters. Pick a date so we can have the video available for our product reviews and use balls from several companies that are advertised as Heavy oil balls. It's about a 10 week process. Started the middle of september and several people suggest we are dodging product. One genius even suggested that we new the results before we tested or we wouldn't have had the balls in our test. If that were the case why would we show a great ball like the Sinister who's ball path nearly mirrored the Guru or the pivot which to the naked eye was nearly the same. We took the step out of the norm and did a video showing ball against ball side by side. This is what the consumers have asked for for many years. Our results are validated based on the perameters we stated in the video.
By the way it was confirmed by the testers at Bowlers Journal in this month issue. We received what I believe is the highest hook rating ever. I said I believe. That means I may be wrong but it's pretty darn close.
So in the immortal words of jack nickelson " suck it up buttercup"
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Re: Perception vs Reality
« Reply #55 on: November 14, 2014, 02:53:24 PM »
So we set up a test. Set the parameters. Pick a date so we can have the video available for our product reviews and use balls from several companies that are advertised as Heavy oil balls. It's about a 10 week process. Started the middle of september and several people suggest we are dodging product. One genius even suggested that we new the results before we tested or we wouldn't have had the balls in our test. If that were the case why would we show a great ball like the Sinister who's ball path nearly mirrored the Guru or the pivot which to the naked eye was nearly the same. We took the step out of the norm and did a video showing ball against ball side by side. This is what the consumers have asked for for many years. Our results are validated based on the perameters we stated in the video.
By the way it was confirmed by the testers at Bowlers Journal in this month issue. We received what I believe is the highest hook rating ever. I said I believe. That means I may be wrong but it's pretty darn close.
So in the immortal words of jack nickelson " suck it up buttercup"
Thanks
Phil

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Re: Perception vs Reality
« Reply #56 on: November 14, 2014, 03:18:58 PM »
http://content.yudu.com/web/1n360/0A1zs8r/BJI112014/html/index.html?page=30
I have no idea if this will work. It's the link to bowlers journal digital and has the recent reviews. Check out the rating chart from some of the companies that had posted about the comparison video.
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Re: Perception vs Reality
« Reply #57 on: November 14, 2014, 03:28:21 PM »
So we set up a test. Set the parameters. Pick a date so we can have the video available for our product reviews and use balls from several companies that are advertised as Heavy oil balls. It's about a 10 week process. Started the middle of september and several people suggest we are dodging product. One genius even suggested that we new the results before we tested or we wouldn't have had the balls in our test. If that were the case why would we show a great ball like the Sinister who's ball path nearly mirrored the Guru or the pivot which to the naked eye was nearly the same. We took the step out of the norm and did a video showing ball against ball side by side. This is what the consumers have asked for for many years. Our results are validated based on the perameters we stated in the video.
By the way it was confirmed by the testers at Bowlers Journal in this month issue. We received what I believe is the highest hook rating ever. I said I believe. That means I may be wrong but it's pretty darn close.
So in the immortal words of jack nickelson " suck it up buttercup"
Thanks
Phil

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Re: Perception vs Reality
« Reply #58 on: November 14, 2014, 03:31:34 PM »
Who are these guys and how did they get in my room. 😃
Gotta love it. Amazing what sitting behind a computer will let you say.

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Re: Perception vs Reality
« Reply #59 on: November 14, 2014, 04:30:35 PM »
Who are these guys and how did they get in my room. 😃
Gotta love it. Amazing what sitting behind a computer will let you say.

I keep saying that. That the keyboard is the new superman juice. People talk crap from a distance and hide when called out.
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Re: Perception vs Reality
« Reply #60 on: November 14, 2014, 05:13:13 PM »
I am unsure of who is hiding?

I have to think that given the timing of the comments, it must have been me. If so, some people need to get a better sense of humor.
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