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General Category => Miscellaneous => Topic started by: carlos on February 08, 2019, 06:06:01 PM
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Just curious do most of you generally start out with a solid ball first and then move on to a pearl or hybrid next ? Or do you just go with what's striking in shadow ball ? I tried what was striking in practice which was a pearl. Went 248 first game Curux Pearl. Second game it was 5 ten pins and strikes mixed in. Ball looked great hitting the pocket made small adjustments but just could not carry. Wondering if I took the wrong approach. Finished the night with 663 but I was frustrated.
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It's going to vary a lot depending on the bowler and lane conditions.
Mine normally is try to stay outside with something weaker but be ready to jump inside with a stronger ball
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Solid,Hybrid,pearl,does it really matter? I look for hook shape depending on how it plays out each night. I say cover,core and layout matters the most.
I start out with a sanded hybrid or a polished solid and end up with the weakest ball I have in the bag. sometimes it's my spare ball.
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It's going to vary a lot depending on the bowler and lane conditions.
Mine normally is try to stay outside with something weaker but be ready to jump inside with a stronger ball
This.... all the high scores in my house are bowlers going down and in. Type of ball is based on the bowler but as long as people are consistent, the down and in shot doesn’t go away.
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Being an equipment junkie.
I figure out my lane surface and lane pattern and bring the appropriate equipment.
After a few weeks I will bring 4 of the same type of reaction that I need but with varying cores and covers, finishes. I also bring a 5th ball, typically weaker and polished for the bracket finals.
For example,
One local house has synthetics but a low volume THS that hooks. So everything is polished...
Respect hybrid
Eon
Honey Badger
Respect pearl
(Haven't completely switched over to 900)
Polished devour OR uproar
In a situation where everything hooks the most I need is a respect.
The other center is higher volume synthetics so a more balanced bag exists, subbing the weak ball for a high end sanded ball like a critical.
All in all I trybto exploit and hack what the condition is calling for and load up on it. Besides I can adjust on a THS...
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There are 2 houses in the town I live in. One of them is nice synthetic, but super wet dry. I can't play the friction because it's too dry, can't play the puddle because it's too wet, so I have to really go around the pattern. I like my On with surface, then ball down to a Drift. Lots of flare, lots of torque.
Now, in house 2, the torquey stuff doesn't work. I can keep my angles a little more closed, so I can use an X or Booyah. When I step left, then I break out a polished Black Ops.
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Just started a just for fun league mostly for league priced open games at dirt house by the college (near work) and so far pretty much just use my Purple Hammer. Its predictable and plenty strong and mostly because their lane machines in the past kind of suck and chewed on a few of my reactives. Plus the oil there is usually on light side and spotty as hell (often with flying backends) so always been my house of choice for urethane. Other better houses in area use the rest of my arsenal saving my strongest pieces for the Bowlero which has the most oil.
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It's a crap shoot, lanes are never oiled the same way twice. Oil machine break-down, or stripper issue, buffer not working, etc... preventive maintenance goes a long way. lol!
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My house is extremely wet dry as well. Down and in players dominate it. I like to slow hook it, my natural game. My tour iq solid pin down blends out the wet dry the best till last game when I have to get so deep that I start leaving weak tens. Anything pearl or shiny just gives me over, under reaction. If I go with hyroads, higher rg stuff that stores energy, it just hooks uncontrollably off the spot. Any suggestions?
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What's with higher average folks throwing lasers from 1st arrow anyway? Maybe I should join them instead of messing around trying to hit an area the size of a flea near 4th arrow with my Web Tour :P Going back to the Triton is better around 2nd.
But what strikes in shadow is I slow roll my Blue Dot up 1st arrow just to get loosened up ;D
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What's with higher average folks throwing lasers from 1st arrow anyway? Maybe I should join them instead of messing around trying to hit an area the size of a flea near 4th arrow with my Web Tour :P Going back to the Triton is better around 2nd.
But what strikes in shadow is I slow roll my Blue Dot up 1st arrow just to get loosened up ;D
It’s the way to go. I’m estimating some but I’m pretty sure the top 10-15 averages in our league start outside of 10
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What's with higher average folks throwing lasers from 1st arrow anyway? Maybe I should join them instead of messing around trying to hit an area the size of a flea near 4th arrow with my Web Tour :P Going back to the Triton is better around 2nd.
But what strikes in shadow is I slow roll my Blue Dot up 1st arrow just to get loosened up ;D
99% of house shots have the friction and most traffic right of 10, so play where the pattern lets you.
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What's with higher average folks throwing lasers from 1st arrow anyway? Maybe I should join them instead of messing around trying to hit an area the size of a flea near 4th arrow with my Web Tour :P Going back to the Triton is better around 2nd.
But what strikes in shadow is I slow roll my Blue Dot up 1st arrow just to get loosened up ;D
99% of house shots have the friction and most traffic right of 10, so play where the pattern lets you.
If I can strategic plan this, I may end up buying an after dark solid and setting it up for short sport patterns
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What's with higher average folks throwing lasers from 1st arrow anyway? Maybe I should join them instead of messing around trying to hit an area the size of a flea near 4th arrow with my Web Tour :P Going back to the Triton is better around 2nd.
But what strikes in shadow is I slow roll my Blue Dot up 1st arrow just to get loosened up ;D
99% of house shots have the friction and most traffic right of 10, so play where the pattern lets you.
If I can strategic plan this, I may end up buying an after dark solid and setting it up for short sport patterns
Both will be in my bag for sure.
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What's with higher average folks throwing lasers from 1st arrow anyway? Maybe I should join them instead of messing around trying to hit an area the size of a flea near 4th arrow with my Web Tour :P Going back to the Triton is better around 2nd.
But what strikes in shadow is I slow roll my Blue Dot up 1st arrow just to get loosened up ;D
99% of house shots have the friction and most traffic right of 10, so play where the pattern lets you.
If I can strategic plan this, I may end up buying an after dark solid and setting it up for short sport patterns
Both will be in my bag for sure.
My pearl is the house shot killer. I was looking for something smoother for short patterns on sport shot. Was considering a urethane but the AD solid is cheaper and probably better fits my style
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What's with higher average folks throwing lasers from 1st arrow anyway? Maybe I should join them instead of messing around trying to hit an area the size of a flea near 4th arrow with my Web Tour :P Going back to the Triton is better around 2nd.
But what strikes in shadow is I slow roll my Blue Dot up 1st arrow just to get loosened up ;D
99% of house shots have the friction and most traffic right of 10, so play where the pattern lets you.
Boy does this one ever have friction right of 10. After Dark Pearl or Tundra might have been what I should have bought after all.
Why'd they make bowling complicated anyway? :P
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Most of the time I am starting with my Hyroad X - or my Winner - then switch accordingly if I have to. It depends if I can play straighter or if I have to get deep?
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Play as far right with as much surface as I can. I avoid fast response balls as long as possible.
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Play as far right with as much surface as I can. I avoid fast response balls as long as possible.
Just curious to avoid over/under?
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I am so trapped whenever I try to hook it on a house shot. If I keep it in front of me, I have a chance of scoring. No Rules Pearl, Torrent, Match Up Black, and IQ Tour are what I've been using. I really want an After Dark Pearl to camp right all night.
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I am so trapped whenever I try to hook it on a house shot. If I keep it in front of me, I have a chance of scoring. No Rules Pearl, Torrent, Match Up Black, and IQ Tour are what I've been using. I really want an After Dark Pearl to camp right all night.
Might think about a Purple Hammer as well. Good ball for camping out on the right and keeping your angles in front of you.
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I am so trapped whenever I try to hook it on a house shot. If I keep it in front of me, I have a chance of scoring. No Rules Pearl, Torrent, Match Up Black, and IQ Tour are what I've been using. I really want an After Dark Pearl to camp right all night.
Do it brother. I’ve been raking with it in league. I’ve never had to adjust more than a board or two a night
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Watch or have someone watch where the ball is existing the pindeck. If it continuing through to the 8, ball down a touch. If it’s deflecting and exiting through the 9, ball up a touch.
Or watch the 10 pin at least. Is it a ringing 10, or flat. Adjust off that.
Sounds like you’re controlling the pocket. It’s always hard to give that up looking for carry.
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I am so trapped whenever I try to hook it on a house shot. If I keep it in front of me, I have a chance of scoring. No Rules Pearl, Torrent, Match Up Black, and IQ Tour are what I've been using. I really want an After Dark Pearl to camp right all night.
Might think about a Purple Hammer as well. Good ball for camping out on the right and keeping your angles in front of you.
I have one, but don't want people to attack me for throwing urethane.
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There are 2 houses in the town I live in. One of them is nice synthetic, but super wet dry. I can't play the friction because it's too dry, can't play the puddle because it's too wet, so I have to really go around the pattern. I like my On with surface, then ball down to a Drift. Lots of flare, lots of torque.
Now, in house 2, the torquey stuff doesn't work. I can keep my angles a little more closed, so I can use an X or Booyah. When I step left, then I break out a polished Black Ops.
Doom...
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There are 2 houses in the town I live in. One of them is nice synthetic, but super wet dry. I can't play the friction because it's too dry, can't play the puddle because it's too wet, so I have to really go around the pattern. I like my On with surface, then ball down to a Drift. Lots of flare, lots of torque.
Now, in house 2, the torquey stuff doesn't work. I can keep my angles a little more closed, so I can use an X or Booyah. When I step left, then I break out a polished Black Ops.
Doom...
What???
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There are 2 houses in the town I live in. One of them is nice synthetic, but super wet dry. I can't play the friction because it's too dry, can't play the puddle because it's too wet, so I have to really go around the pattern. I like my On with surface, then ball down to a Drift. Lots of flare, lots of torque.
Now, in house 2, the torquey stuff doesn't work. I can keep my angles a little more closed, so I can use an X or Booyah. When I step left, then I break out a polished Black Ops.
Doom...
What???
Nothing nothing...just not the words that come to mind for me when I think of the Drift ;)
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There are 2 houses in the town I live in. One of them is nice synthetic, but super wet dry. I can't play the friction because it's too dry, can't play the puddle because it's too wet, so I have to really go around the pattern. I like my On with surface, then ball down to a Drift. Lots of flare, lots of torque.
Now, in house 2, the torquey stuff doesn't work. I can keep my angles a little more closed, so I can use an X or Booyah. When I step left, then I break out a polished Black Ops.
Doom...
What???
Nothing nothing...just not the words that come to mind for me when I think of the Drift ;)
Dude, mine is 5*40 and it's HUGE. Cover makes it a bit squirty OOB, but I easily get 5 inches of flare and when it goes, it GOES.
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There are 2 houses in the town I live in. One of them is nice synthetic, but super wet dry. I can't play the friction because it's too dry, can't play the puddle because it's too wet, so I have to really go around the pattern. I like my On with surface, then ball down to a Drift. Lots of flare, lots of torque.
Now, in house 2, the torquey stuff doesn't work. I can keep my angles a little more closed, so I can use an X or Booyah. When I step left, then I break out a polished Black Ops.
Doom...
What???
Nothing nothing...just not the words that come to mind for me when I think of the Drift ;)
Dude, mine is 5*40 and it's HUGE. Cover makes it a bit squirty OOB, but I easily get 5 inches of flare and when it goes, it GOES.
That fair. The few I watched in person were out of box finish and seemed to wiggle a lot down lane or roll a bit smooth and even giving a lack luster finish. May just have been the conditions and bowlers I was watching.
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Lane surface, and buff length are the biggest factors in how I play a house shot. Except for urethane most balls will not allow me to use the hold area when I play out. One exception is the after dark solid. However one place I play on 20 year old anvil lane is so tracked that I have to move in and go to stronger stuff really quick. Carry is an isdue then, but that is the only way to stay in the pocket
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Bowl two leagues, different places and it's a tale of two houses, see below:
House A: Use a strong ball ie: Motiv Villain, with mild surface 2000grit or so and sometimes ball down to a upper-mid performance pearl with a little surface on it by the end of the night ie: Idol Pearl
House B: Use something shiny and flippy to start ie: Hy-road X at box finish, often balling down to a weaker also shiny piece ie: Motiv Hydra or Roto Grip Hustle Ink.
House A is a very modern, high tech place, Kegel Flex machine, high volume house pattern, typically very high scoring
House B is a recently renovated place that still uses a Phoenix pad machine and while great lane surface, very light on volume, relatively low scoring
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I can carry 2 bowling balls in my Hammer backpack. One spot is reserved for my spare ball. So I start with whatever I happened to throw in my bag the night before.
:)