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Problem SLowing Everything Down..
« on: December 30, 2008, 02:02:27 PM »
Alright guys.. my stats are in my profile..

I'm having a problem slowing everything down.. during practice my feet and ball speed are slow and im throwing the ball like i want to, but as soon as the lights come on i become fast again. Like i mentioned i don't have a lot of have, and kind of spin the ball, so i have a problem with getting to fast, and my carry % is reallly low.

I use a 6 step approach, which i feel is my major problem because im getting too much momentum when i get to the line, and everything is fast. I am throwing 15# stuff, and im not willing to move up to 16 because i have so much equipment.

I have tried everything, hold the ball lower, concentrate on staying slow. but when i do concentrate on staying slow my timing feels REALLLY off, and i can't get used to it. If the lanes are dry im killing it, but if theres any remote of heavy oil i stuggle with carry and hook..

Ive tried switching to a 5 step, and thats a little better but i still have a tendency to get fast, and timing still feels weird.. I hope anyone can gimme some suggestions to work on.. hand positions, speed, everything.. grrrrrrrr its becoming frustrating thank god i can make spares or id b foooooooooooooooked..

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Re: Problem SLowing Everything Down..
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2008, 10:08:54 PM »
I have the same problem sometimes. I found that its not just about holding the ball lower, its about the pushaway. Keep the pushaway smaller the ball speed will go down. I found even when I kept the ball lower I still had a pretty big pushaway and it caused a higher ball speed.

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Re: Problem SLowing Everything Down..
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2008, 10:12:49 PM »
do u think this will help my feet as well?
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Re: Problem SLowing Everything Down..
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2008, 10:20:23 PM »
You might have to change the timing of your pushaway a little (i.e.start the ball a little earlier or later). The biggest thing I would look at too is your release. I would recommend trying to throw your thumb at your target to try to cut down on the spin. If you still are spinning it I would throw your index finger at your target. If still spinning it throw your middle finger at your target and so on...hopefully you understand what I mean. It is nice to be able to change releases too. But being able to slow down and speed up is nice too.

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Re: Problem SLowing Everything Down..
« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2008, 10:29:51 PM »
Compact your approach a few inches then push it closer in a few weeks, eventually you can move up a foot or so and slow everything down.

Learn to walk by the ball Bill Hall teaches this method, he teaches pushing the ball forward is bad thing just set it into the swing plane. Watching old film of Wiseman and Duke will show you his method's, he is there coach and they swear by his method's.

Make sure everything stays going forward not sideways, up or something else keep your leverage arm ahead and it will keep your shoulder inline for the ball to be close to your ankle. In fact the new BTM my friend Bill gets into this very thing, so if you get BTM great if not subscribe and get real info on a monthly basis.

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Re: Problem SLowing Everything Down..
« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2008, 10:46:44 PM »
these are great tips guys! cant wait to try them out at practice!
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Re: Problem SLowing Everything Down..
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2008, 09:44:20 AM »
I have seen 2 people cut there approach in half to cut the speed done.  Both are about 6 feet from the foul line. One is a local bowler-about 200 avg.  The other is a PBA regional player.  In his case it may be due to injury, but he will be on the national tour next year.  He qualified through the national regional tournament earlier this month.

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« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2008, 10:03:15 AM »
I found two things that have worked for me, might not for you...

1. Take 2/3 - 3/4 the 'step distance', that between each step ( hard to do at first, don't think about it to much or it'll mess the timing all up )

2. Push-away less than 3-4 inches or about half of what you normally do. I almost 'drop' as I start. It has slowed the swing, speed to a point I do not think about it any longer.

What I will say, try ONE of these. I did both and looked like a drunk sea gull until I got it 'down right'. It'll mess the timing a bit but it helped me.
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Re: Problem SLowing Everything Down..
« Reply #8 on: December 31, 2008, 10:17:48 AM »
Thanks guy! gonna be trying this out ASAP!
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Re: Problem SLowing Everything Down..
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2008, 11:37:23 AM »
sounds like u need a routine to slow u down. When u walk up there walk up there slowly to the approach. Do something like use the air dryer, wipe off ur ball something. When u are on the approach take a deep breath before u go. (remember keep everything slow.
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Re: Problem SLowing Everything Down..
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2008, 01:10:23 PM »
this is all gonna help! thanks!!!
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Re: Problem SLowing Everything Down..
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2008, 01:18:35 PM »
I would try to move forward on the approach and move you marker closer to your self.
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Re: Problem SLowing Everything Down..
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2008, 01:45:22 PM »
I know this may sound somewhat methodical, but stand a half foot or so from the foul line.  Take 4-5 normal steps (normal = steps you normally take while walking).  This will be your starting point.  Grab your ball and proceed.  Basically walking and throwing the ball at your own pace.  I learned this from Rick (i.e. tenpinspro) while I was in Cali for Nats @ Reno couple years ago.  I've basically stuck with it.  Found myself nearly a foot in front of the first set of dots on the approach (i.e. ones closer to the foul line).  When I want to apply more speed, I simply move back 6 inches or so, thus lengthening my stride and/or moving a little quicker to the line.  I've tried holding the ball higher to increase speed, but that definitely screws my timing.  BTW, my timing is late (in comparison to what many believe - pushaway begins with first step).  I put the ball in motion after my first step (I use 4 step approach)

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« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2008, 02:12:12 PM »
My suggestion would be to get a coach and see what he says. If your speed really isn't as fast as you think it is and you try to slow down to cover up a flaw you might wind up worse off.
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Re: Problem SLowing Everything Down..
« Reply #14 on: December 31, 2008, 03:20:20 PM »
Try walking to the line like you are "strolling in the park".It works to slow me down.