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n00dlejester

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Proper Thumb FIt
« on: February 20, 2019, 08:34:31 AM »
Hey everybody, I come seeking advice on proper thumb fit. I've been fidgeting with a grip for a while now. I have a super flexible thumb, and it's been a bit of a challenge to get a grip that feels 'perfect.'

Currently, I'm working on thumb shape. I've been using a mold that's got some room to add/remove tape as needed. I use a tiered taping style because my thumb tapers quite a bit. I'm testing two new shapes. Both are rounder, and both are snugger than the mold - one is really snug, and the other is somewhere in the middle. Also, both of these new shapes have less bevel. Both of these thumbs make the ball feel lighter, and actually help me 'throw it over the towel.' Last night, after rolling a set with the in-the-middle thumb, I rolled some practice with a molded-thumb and was dropping the crap out of it. There was no throwing it over the towel unless I grabbed it.

This prompted the question - what does a proper thumb fit feel like? What do you guys look for in a thumb fit? I understand this is a subjective topic, and I am indeed working closely with my PSO - I'm just looking for different perspectives on a this rather fascinating topics.
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Re: Proper Thumb FIt
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2019, 08:56:18 AM »
The proper thumb fit, in my opinion, is secure enough that you don't squeeze the crap out of it, thus hindering a repeatable release.  Too much bevel can make a bowler lose the ball early because of how the thumb should work inside the hole.  The base of the thumb is basically where the pressure should be (against the top of the hole).

The hole itself is only 1/3 of the equation because your span and pitch will need to be whatever works for you also.

Over time our hands change, as does our other aspects of the physical game, so it's good to have an open mind and not be afraid to experiment a little with all of the above to ensure you're not missing opportunities for growth.
« Last Edit: February 20, 2019, 08:59:22 AM by notclay »

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Re: Proper Thumb FIt
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2019, 10:32:18 AM »
Thanks for this input, notclay. I think your point about too much bevel vs. the proper amount is waaaay more important than I ever realized. I have never had a more secure fit than I had last night. I was actually able to loft the ball whenever I wanted!
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Re: Proper Thumb FIt
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2019, 10:35:52 AM »
One thing that I found out a couple weeks ago from Robert Smith is that if you don't have the right finger pitches it also affects your thumb.

May not necessarily apply in your situation but it's definitely something to note if issues continue

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Re: Proper Thumb FIt
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2019, 11:06:29 AM »
That's wild, SVStar! I have been toying with my finger pitches as well, but not quite as much. I injured my fingers in separate incidents (broke my middle finger playing softball, and tore the ligaments in my ring due to a terrible ball fit when I was a teenager). This limits me from trying too much one way or the other.

Are there any big names for ball fitters? Maybe I'll travel to a guru and see what new ideas there are that I could try.
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Re: Proper Thumb FIt
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2019, 11:30:09 AM »
That's wild, SVStar! I have been toying with my finger pitches as well, but not quite as much. I injured my fingers in separate incidents (broke my middle finger playing softball, and tore the ligaments in my ring due to a terrible ball fit when I was a teenager). This limits me from trying too much one way or the other.


I've been dealing with some grip issues and I finally got tired of it so went to see him at the recommendation of someone else I know that's been going to him.

We adjusted my fingers for loss of flexibility which made my fit much more relaxed. I'm still having a couple issues with squeezing so I might go back and see what he thinks now for my thumb


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Re: Proper Thumb FIt
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2019, 11:50:31 AM »
Hole size
Hole shape
Pitch
bevel

The thumb hole should be tight enough to have good security in the ball.  For some people, this can be accomplished without tape.  For most it will require tape at some point, either on the skin or inside the thumb hole. 

Shape is created via having an oval or ovaling with tape.  If one ovals with tape, the tape needs to be positioned properly in the hole in front/back/side of the thumb. 

Thumb pitch is measured off of a couple of variables.  Web flexibility, Skin texture, span length, thumb length should all be taken into account when determining the proper thumb pitch.  Plus lateral pitch is measured off a fitting tube.

Bevel is personal and helps promote clearing the ball faster/slower. 

For my thumb hole, I drill a 61/64 full depth, a 31/32 3/4" then 1 3/64 1/16 of an inch.  Then I smooth the thumb with a scotchbrite.  I don't use sanding discs at all on my own equipment.

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Re: Proper Thumb FIt
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2019, 03:11:59 PM »
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For my thumb hole, I drill a 61/64 full depth, a 31/32 3/4" then 1 3/64 1/16 of an inch.  Then I smooth the thumb with a scotchbrite.  I don't use sanding discs at all on my own equipment

 That would drive me NUTS!

 I use an ovalled hole, but it has to be the same for the entire depth of the hole. Taper like that would make me drop the ball on every shot.

 If I could keep it on my hand long enough to throw it period.
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