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thedjs

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Question on new rules
« on: August 16, 2018, 03:43:19 PM »
Under the new rules from the USBC you can only clean your ball with a dry towel.  This is going to be tough in my house as balls pick up some kind of rubber or other gook in the ball return that a dry towel will not remove.  It gets all over the balls and will even stick to your hands.  And yes we have all complained to the manager, but nothing changes.  This is a Bowlmor house.  Since this is the only house left in our city we don't have a lot of options.

Anyway what I want to know is can a league vote to have their own rules about ball cleaning even if it does not comply with the USBC? 

 

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Re: Question on new rules
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2018, 03:23:11 PM »
Wait, banning microfiber towels because they can change the surface of the ball if enough pressure is applied?

Well, better ban the lane because it changes the surface of my ball!

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Re: Question on new rules
« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2018, 03:33:25 PM »
These new rules sound like they were made up by a committee of the last place team in a monday night men's league. The team where every bowler bowls with a "dry towel" hanging out of his back pocket and a "Big Dawgs" T-shirt tucked in their wranglers.

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Re: Question on new rules
« Reply #18 on: August 17, 2018, 07:33:17 PM »
Bowling use to be fun......now not so much!

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Re: Question on new rules
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2018, 12:13:05 AM »
These new rules were made up by a committee called Chad Murphy!!

His mantra is MABA!! Make America Bowl Askew!
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Re: Question on new rules
« Reply #20 on: August 20, 2018, 06:33:37 AM »
My question is, How are we going to know if someone towel is wet or dry?
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Re: Question on new rules
« Reply #21 on: August 20, 2018, 08:16:32 AM »
My question is, How are we going to know if someone towel is wet or dry?

That is the major issue with all of the new rules.   Enforcement.   The USBC puts that burden squarely on the bowlers.   Between this rule,  and the no balance hole [and no thumb or balance hole for no thumb bowlers] it is going to be virtually impossible to ensure full compliance.   There will be arguments galore the first year or two between bowlers on sanctioned leagues about what is allowed and not allowed.

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Re: Question on new rules
« Reply #22 on: August 20, 2018, 11:27:45 AM »
Bowling use to be fun......now not so much!

For me bowling is still fun but league isn't.  Taking the year off to practice and get more consistent.  Don't have to give 2 craps about Mr. Murphy (though admittedly tiny reason why, more hate the commitment).
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Re: Question on new rules
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2018, 11:45:12 AM »
People worry so much about nothing.

I've never seen anyone called out, I don't care about it in a league setting (If you think you have to clean your ball after every shot then I have you beat already), and it's an issue that will probably never raise its head so why worry about it.

I'm more put off by rosin bags being thrown around and rosin getting on the approach.

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Re: Question on new rules
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2018, 11:45:58 AM »
I enjoy bowling, especially league bowling.  I am able to do this by not worrying so much about things I can't control like; rules, rules enforcement, whether the shot is not as easy as last week, guy using urethane is going to reduce my area, guys using strong covers soaking up the oil, etc.  My advice, is just go bowl and have fun and enjoy the competition and camaraderie. 

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Re: Question on new rules
« Reply #25 on: August 21, 2018, 08:16:22 AM »
What's next?  These stupid rule changes do NOTHING to address the real issue.

3oz weight, no weight holes, ect ..... so what !!

Are proprietors going to scale balls now?  You can't even get the local USBC to tape a lane after 850 is shot.  How long have the no-thumbers been using illegal equipment?  As long as I remember and NOTHING was done about it then.  Now the people who played by the rules will be required to plug stuff or buy new?

Deal with the 2 handers and be done with it.

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Re: Question on new rules
« Reply #26 on: August 21, 2018, 08:19:32 AM »
My question is, How are we going to know if someone towel is wet or dry?

That is the major issue with all of the new rules.   Enforcement.   The USBC puts that burden squarely on the bowlers.   Between this rule,  and the no balance hole [and no thumb or balance hole for no thumb bowlers] it is going to be virtually impossible to ensure full compliance.   There will be arguments galore the first year or two between bowlers on sanctioned leagues about what is allowed and not allowed.

Amen.  The casual beer league bowlers who want no more than a night out away from the daily grind will be called out by the "house pro's" how their 15 year old Fire Storm is illegal after he banks it off the wall on his way to 700?  Sounds like a lot a drunk parking lot fights to me.

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Re: Question on new rules
« Reply #27 on: August 21, 2018, 08:45:59 AM »
What's next?  These stupid rule changes do NOTHING to address the real issue.

3oz weight, no weight holes, ect ..... so what !!

Are proprietors going to scale balls now?  You can't even get the local USBC to tape a lane after 850 is shot.  How long have the no-thumbers been using illegal equipment?  As long as I remember and NOTHING was done about it then.  Now the people who played by the rules will be required to plug stuff or buy new?

Deal with the 2 handers and be done with it.
Have you ask for balls to be scaled based upon the 1 oz side, finger, thumb rule that is still in place? More balls are currently illegal and being used nightly than ever. While at Nats, I saw countless weight holes being made bigger/deeper due to side/finger/thumb not in compliance. So bowlers aren't regulating themselves now because they don't care about that extra side the next guy has. Enforcement was never cared about with the old rules, but apparently it will be with the new ones? Get over yourselves. Rule changes happen in every sport. People adapt and move on. Remember what you did after the RG/DIFF rule? That's right, you adapted and moved on...

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Re: Question on new rules
« Reply #28 on: August 21, 2018, 09:30:18 AM »
The one thing that is the problem, USBC can't control it. It's not side weight, or 2 handers, or no thumbers, or backup balls or anything behind the foul line. The playing field is equalized from foul line to pin deck. THAT'S the problem. USBC has painted themselves into a corner and is now just looking stupid.

I still stand by my idea that if you want to be sanctioned, you use a tougher pattern. If you don't care about sanctioning, wall them up!

If any of the equipment BS mattered, then someone would have found the magical combo to wreck the Peterson. What's that? No one has? BOY, WHAT'S DIFFERENT THERE?

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Re: Question on new rules
« Reply #29 on: August 21, 2018, 10:28:40 AM »
The one thing that is the problem, USBC can't control it. It's not side weight, or 2 handers, or no thumbers, or backup balls or anything behind the foul line. The playing field is equalized from foul line to pin deck. THAT'S the problem. USBC has painted themselves into a corner and is now just looking stupid.

I still stand by my idea that if you want to be sanctioned, you use a tougher pattern. If you don't care about sanctioning, wall them up!

If any of the equipment BS mattered, then someone would have found the magical combo to wreck the Peterson. What's that? No one has? BOY, WHAT'S DIFFERENT THERE?

ummmmm…...LANE CONDITIONS???:)
USBC will do nothing in that regard, ever. Just the same ole,same ole, keeping the $$$ flowing into the manufacturers [ball cos. lane oil cos,etc] pockets & out of ours!