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Robert Mushtare 292???
« on: July 21, 2009, 02:16:13 AM »
So I decided to check his bowl.com membership to see what hes averaging and how many honor scores he now has. Apparently he now owns a 292. So not only can he strike on command and shoot 900 but also elect to get 2 pins when having the first 11 strikes lol. Normally I dont post anything about him but wanted to see what some of you thought about this.

 

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Re: Robert Mushtare 292???
« Reply #31 on: July 21, 2009, 07:48:01 PM »
I never claim to have shot 900 but in practice sessions I struck 40+ times in a row a couple times in the late 70's. And I have witnesses to prove it. So what? I cant say that he did not because I was not there. And while I know that it is unlikely that he did, the best chances are when others are not messing with your line and you can bowl at your own pace. At least that is how I did it. The only difference is that I was an adult bowler and could not claim a 900 after a practice session that junior bowlers could do then.

The point here is so what? Believe what you want to believe about the guy. Watch him bowl and believe what you want. The whole issue is that it should have never been allowed that unopposed, unwitnessed scores have the opportunity to be approved. Not because of cheating but because of the whole unfairness of being able to bowl without everyone messing with you shot, because bowling unopposed is more likely to get into a rythm where you do add self pressure. Simply it is an unfair advantage...period. It is not apples to apples.

As for 292, does he have several 293's, 295's ...etc because I bet it would take many of those scores on the front 11 before you could get a 292... I did make a bet once that I could get a 2 count in 10 tries... I won the bet. But I was shooting for it shot after shot... and not after the front 11.

Who cares if he lies... he is the one that has to pay for it when he shoots a poor game or series or lets the crowd down after building false hopes. He and himself alone must live with the notoriety that this has brought to himself.
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Re: Robert Mushtare 292???
« Reply #32 on: July 21, 2009, 08:24:01 PM »
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I heard he took out the 1-5 to get that 292.


Man, I'm always getting the wrong info.  I had heard that he took out the 7-10 on that last shot just to prove it could be done.


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Re: Robert Mushtare 292???
« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2009, 08:38:53 PM »
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I heard he took out the 7-10 off a full rack.


You must have read my previous post.  



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Re: Robert Mushtare 292???
« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2009, 08:41:42 PM »
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There is only 1 TRUE 900 shooter, Jeremy Sonnenfeld. And if I recall, his back to back to back 300s were on 3 different pairs.


You may want to rethink that last one. The first 900 was shot in 1982 in LaHambra,CA by Glenn Allison with a bleeder yellow dot. Unfortunately, the sackless ABC could not accept that someone could be that good even if it was for one night.

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Re: Robert Mushtare 292???
« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2009, 09:17:41 PM »
kidjete, i know of numerous people who post on this site that are MUCH better than robert mushtare:


jeff carter
jeff richgels
robert lawrence
bob hanson


i'm sure i've missed others.......

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Re: Robert Mushtare 292???
« Reply #36 on: July 21, 2009, 10:16:39 PM »
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kidjete, i know of numerous people who post on this site that are MUCH better than robert mushtare:


jeff carter
jeff richgels
robert lawrence
bob hanson


i'm sure i've missed others.......


There's at least 100.

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Re: Robert Mushtare 292???
« Reply #37 on: July 21, 2009, 10:33:27 PM »
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kidjete, i know of numerous people who post on this site that are MUCH better than robert mushtare:


jeff carter
jeff richgels
robert lawrence
bob hanson


i'm sure i've missed others.......


There's at least 100.


Just pull up "User List"....probably 2/3's of that
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Re: Robert Mushtare 292???
« Reply #38 on: July 22, 2009, 02:37:15 AM »
Back to Musht-cheat, *hehe, incognito* I've talked to the tournament advisor for section 5 (i believe) Karen Astafan, and she's said that he has done and will do PBA events, but, he signs a waiver so he can still be considered a youth... what, is he 20 now? When does the new Youth rule on age come into effect?


Anyways, besides the point. I've seen him bowl. I'm not impressed. He bowled at the center I work at in a Pepsi tournament last year, and I wasn't impressed. Didn't get a chance to talk to him, either. He just seemed arrogant to me, I guess. But, like I said, he didn't prove anything then. Shot a low 6, I think. We have wood lanes, and there were people around, so, I didn't really expect too much out of him, anyway.


And, it is true that he hasn't had any honor scores since the new rule. Hmm... Hi, I'm a coincidence... It's sh!tty that someone would seriously even think of doing something like that, though. It was obviously going to cause a commotion, so why do it? Seriously. TWICE?! C'mon, man.

But, the 292 is the icing on the cake. Cuz, I know I get bored with all the 300s I shoot, so much that I actually try for a 292. Although, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt it seems a little bit more in his ballpark to throw that than a 900. Or, 2 900s. Or 5. However many he *says he* has.

I think what he should do next is go for an 892, with 2 300s and a 292... with the 292 being the 3rd game...

Or, how about a 292 triplicate?! Oh, my... I'd believe it. Cuz, after the first one he threw, the next time he bowled, he could do it again... but, the catch is he has to get the 2 pins on the fill shot differently each time... like, 6-10... then, say, 4-7... then a 7-10!! Or, maybe even harder... how about the 6-9 out of the full rack!? Only then would I consider him even pretty good. But, not great.

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Re: Robert Mushtare 292???
« Reply #39 on: July 22, 2009, 02:52:07 AM »
Nvm the fact that he has won Pepsi twice now at the state level.  But your right he's no good!

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Re: Robert Mushtare 292???
« Reply #40 on: July 22, 2009, 02:58:25 AM »
well, whether he's good or not, no matter where he goes from now on, everyone knows who he is, most definately.


But, how credible are his scores he's said he's bowled? *i.e. 900s, 292


I guess only time will tell.


He's been outta the limelight for a while, and the OP checked his page out of the blue...




Give this site a whirl... It's quite amusing.

http://www.robertmushtarethegreat.com/index.php

Just sayin...

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Re: Robert Mushtare 292???
« Reply #41 on: July 22, 2009, 05:14:49 AM »
Intersting fact:

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''According to the ESPN Outside The Lines television segment, the odds of a bowler bowling two perfect 900's is 129 nonillion to one. Interestingly, the video segment (see In The News section for link) says that is 129 followed by 26 zeros. But a nonillion is 10 to the 30th power (30 zeros), according to Wikipedia. If it is 30 zeros, that looks like this: 129,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to one.''
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Suppose if he had luck on his side it is probably 900,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 to one.
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Re: Robert Mushtare 292???
« Reply #42 on: July 22, 2009, 06:42:53 AM »
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Nvm the fact that he has won Pepsi twice now at the state level.  But your right he's no good!


Oh man I'm sold...noone has accomplished that feat...
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Re: Robert Mushtare 292???
« Reply #43 on: July 30, 2009, 11:53:14 PM »
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I heard he took out the 7-10 off a full rack.
Hey, some guy on an adjacent pair in league last week supposedly did exactly that.  I didn't see how he managed to do it, just heard the gasps from people who did see it and then saw the pins standing there immediately after he did it.  I still don't know how he did it.  Anyone have any ideas?

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Re: Robert Mushtare 292???
« Reply #44 on: July 31, 2009, 12:04:02 AM »
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kidjete, i know of numerous people who post on this site that are MUCH better than robert mushtare:


jeff carter
jeff richgels
robert lawrence
bob hanson


i'm sure i've missed others.......


Well first of all I said on this thread.  Second of all I was looking at the posters up to that point.  Reading is your friend.

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Re: Robert Mushtare 292???
« Reply #45 on: July 31, 2009, 07:49:10 AM »
Do some research before you make a bold untrue statement!!

There have been sanctioned 292 games bowled. USBC had an article a few years back on Kent Wagner throwing a 292 game. If I remember correctly, he tried 20 some times using a 6lb house ball on the last ball. He took out the 6-10


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This has been posted before.  Old news and silly.

Odds say....he's probably better than all posters on this post.

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He probably is.. I don't know whether he bowled 5 900's or not.. I do know something is pretty fishy.  How old is he now?  Any chance he is going to go on the pro tour?  I would think the USBC and the PBA would be all over him to get in and hype up the sport.  IF he is that great he could be the PBA posterboy, not Jason Belmonte.. The fact that they aren't completely all over him says alot.
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He bowled a few TQRs and got his butt handed to him.  Averaged 179 in the last one if I remember correctly.

Shocking that there has never been a 292 but he has one.

Don't know him, and never met him, but just from what I have heard I wouldn't trust him farther than I could throw him.
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