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toomanytenpins

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which hooks more,really
« on: August 06, 2009, 12:48:31 AM »
ok ,I know i should already know the answer to this by now ,but i am confused.
Will a dull ball or a polished ball hook more,(cover more boards on the lane on the same shot).
   I ask because The other day I was bowling and i was using a mean machine that i had just taken to 500 and a gravity shift at oob,probably about to answer my own question ,but i would really like constructive input.
   As i was bowling i noticed the shot was loose with the gs, a bit of swing ,standing 22 playing out to 8,but if i missed in the ball ran thru the nose and if i missed right it wouldnt recover.Changed to a weaker ball and it went 60 feet where the gs ran high. Changed to the mean machine at 500 and it held pocket beautifully to my suprise. no jump at the pin deck .when i got it right it ignored the oob and still crushed the pocket.
   So i had hold and recovery with the dull ball,but backend no hold or recovery with the polished ball.Now if i hit my mark the gs struck but i think i had 4 boards of area with the mean . 4 boards to me is a football field.yeah i think my moron light is lit. More surface less overall hook,but more consistent reaction,tighter line,and stronger more defined finish.Less surface, more boards, more length,open up the lanes after dull ball wont carry. I am still stuck on stupid dont laugh to hard ,i learn a little more every day,but i think i need to understand this for proper ball selection in the future.JUst thought i would get some input from some people who know .
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Re: which hooks more,really
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2009, 09:24:53 AM »
It depends. It's not a simple answer. They read friction differently.

The dull ball will start earlier, and once it finds friction will be a more controlled move late. They will usually be more forgiving on wet conditions.

The pearl ball, assuming adequate friction, will respond faster to that friction and be more aggressive late on the lane.

If you define hook as "any deviation from a straight line" then in total hook usually the stronger cover will win. However, most of us really don't notice earlier read on the lane so we don't associate that with "hook".

What most of us watch is the last 10-15 feet on the lane and will say that the pearl ball "hooks like crazy", because that's easier to see. All the movement is late instead of earlier (solid and particle covers) and (hopefully) continuous.

Look at your conditions you're seeing most often. If there's usually a decent amount of friction you'll probably favor pearl reactives. The opposite is also true.

Be careful. Too many bowlers get themselves into major trouble by trying to maximize hook. It all comes down to managing friction effectively. High score wins. It always has and always will.


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stopncrank

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Re: which hooks more,really
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2009, 09:35:13 AM »
well put clay. another point i'd like to add is once you get a handle on which hooks most FOR YOU, then use it too your advantage. simply put, certain conditions you face can require you to get creative, always think outside the box so to speak. what works for me somtimes wont work for you. case in point last week, im bowling a four gamer on the usbc nats pattern, and they played well from deep, but pretty much everything pearlized for me was way too continuous, on the back of the pattern. after throwing pretty much everything in my bag to no avail, i picked up my virtual gravity which is 2000 grit polish and had a great look. two things i learned from this for me is that i can use solid covers to tame the backend reaction, and two that the virtual gravity for me is alot more versitile than i gave it credit for. kudos to you for asking questions, we are all here to learn, just remember to learn what works for you cause everybody is different. good luck!
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Re: which hooks more,really
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2009, 12:15:52 PM »
Thank you, stopncrank, you also added some light.

Everyone should think about ball reaction in terms of managing friction, managing transition, and how you want a particular ball to respond. Cover prep can make a huge difference in your success.

As was mentioned by stopncrank, too tame down the back end you can go with a solid cover and no polish. The other extreme is a pearl cover with polish and somewhere in between is a polished solid or even a pearl at 2000-4000 (no shine).

One more consideration is pin up vs. pin down layouts. Generally speaking, pin above the fingers layouts will respond faster to friction than pin down, which will tend to make the ball a bit more predictable at the break point.

So, 1) Decide which part of the lane you want to attack. 2) Try to anticipate transition based on your own experience, and 3) Select cover stocks and surfaces to enhance your desired reaction and pin carry. Good luck.


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toomanytenpins

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Re: which hooks more,really
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2009, 05:19:33 PM »
thanx guys for your very informative and respectful replies.
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Re: which hooks more,really
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2009, 05:25:01 PM »
clay and crank hit it on the head.  Well posted.
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