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Brunner

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Rules question.....bowling the blind team
« on: January 15, 2007, 04:57:36 AM »
Let me see if I can explain this correctly...if something doesn't sound right let me know.

My mom and my sister (also league president) bowl in the same league together but on different teams.  The league is not a high average league, but is more that the old ladies get together.  There are 7 teams in the league and have been since last year, when one team quit halfway through the year.  Now here's the problem.

Last year when my sister's team was scheduled to bowl the blind team she noticed that the score for the blind was not right so she said something to the league secretary who promptly told her it was figured correctly and she was not going to look into it.  Well since it was so late in the year they decided not to do anything about it and wait till next year to see if they got another team.

Well the next year they only had 7 teams so right off the bat my mom's team tried to tell the secretary that the blind score was being figured wrong.  The secretary pretty much told them to p@ss off.  So they called the association president and a meeting was called.  Meanwhile over half of the season was bowled using the wrong blind score.

So the meeting was called and the association president pretty much told them to get along and figure it out.  They voted to leave the first half standings as they were (even though they weren't right) and would figure the blind scores correctly from here out.  The first night after the meeting my mom's team bowled the blind team and won all four games.  When the standings came out the next week it showed they only won three games.  When they confronted the secretary she said they added wrong and it wasn't going to be changed.  My mom then pulled out the copy of the score sheet and asked the secretary to prove it.  The secretary told her to go away.

My question is this;
1.  Can the first half of the league stand even though the blind score was figured wrong.

2.  How does someone get the USBC involved.  They want to have the league de-certified?

The bad thing is that the numbers for women bowlers in this area are way down, and my mom has already said she is going to quite after this year,  The only reason she is staying is so here teammates will have a full team.  My sisters team is also going to lose one person.  Someone give me some ideas on how to handle this please!!!!!!!  Sorry to ramble on.
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JohnP

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Re: Rules question.....bowling the blind team
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2007, 02:17:44 PM »
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There are no other options given. No "unless specified by league rule", no "unless the secretary's an azzhat". You can't pick some other system, and the secretary is wrong.


Actually, the rule states that ten pins per bowler is used unless the league's Board of Directors selects another number.  The Board of Directors is composed of the league officers and team captains.  I would look first in the league rules to see if this issue is specifically addressed, then I would call a Board of Director's meeting and ask if they had, at some earlier time during the season, selected another number and if so why that is not specified in the rules (your team captain should have been involved in that decision).  If neither of these situations exist, the ten pins per bowler rule applies.  --  JohnP

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Re: Rules question.....bowling the blind team
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2007, 04:35:36 PM »
I may be off here, but from what you have said, or forgot to say, your secretary sounds like she violated rule 102e, his/her duties. Each Board Member should have been given a copy of the league rules, in that there should have been what a "ghost team or bye" team score would be. It is/was also the fault of the Board to see, if this is the case, that there wasn't anything in the rules about that.

If your Mom wanted to be nasty, failure to perform duties, is a reason to have her removed from office, but that would be harsh, maybe needs to be, but harsh.

The past is the past, having a set score now and going forward is the best way to deal with it, IMO. But not changing a mistake, is also failure to perform....
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