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brunswickcomplete

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Sanction league rule
« on: October 25, 2022, 09:01:40 PM »
Bowling tonight (USBC Detroit), i point out a balance hole in the other team ball, during practice, my captain is too much of a puss to call it out, so is the league secretary, which i pointed out to him 2nd game, so much for preserving rules that are in the usbc guidelines, I guess my 30$ sanction fee doesn’t mean crap
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Re: Sanction league rule
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2022, 06:25:04 PM »
Bowling tonight (USBC Detroit), i point out a balance hole in the other team ball, during practice, my captain is too much of a puss to call it out, so is the league secretary, which i pointed out to him 2nd game, so much for preserving rules that are in the usbc guidelines, I guess my 30$ sanction fee doesn’t mean crap

End result of last nights fiasco, i was removed from the team by the captain for making a stink of it, he said this is a beer drinking league, not the pro tour, my response, rules are rules and should be followed, the league secretary, who doesn’t bowl in the league, but works behind the counter, couldn’t care less


I'm not sure of the rules or procedures, but can't you file a protest with the local Detroit Assn?

Call them, I posted the number earlier.
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brunswickcomplete

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Re: Sanction league rule
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2022, 06:42:45 PM »
At this time it’s probably better for me to be removed from that group, I’ll head over to imperial lanes to see if any one needs an extra bowler

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Re: Sanction league rule
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2022, 08:00:40 PM »
At this time it’s probably better for me to be removed from that group, I’ll head over to imperial lanes to see if any one needs an extra bowler

I get the mindset to just cut the losses and head over, but this also does bring about the integrity issue. It doesn't matter if it is a beer drinking league or not; if they are going to be USBC sanctioned, they need to be all in for what that entails, or get out and make the league non-sanctioned. I'd go through with getting hold of the association and bring this up to them. Kicking you off the team because they are violating rules basically is making you the whistleblower, and showing negligence on the part of the league secretary, let alone the entire brass of the league.

They may think of this as a burning bridges issue, but you're standing up for principles and integrity while they are having fun and collecting the funds while simultaneously shirking those rules, and those who are supposed to enforce them are looking the other way. Leaving them to do that signals condoning of their actions/being complicit in their actions.

Definitely get the local association involved.

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Re: Sanction league rule
« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2022, 09:29:12 PM »
Just curious OP, what was the other team’s response when you mentioned the wt hole during practice? If it was the only ball he had and claimed ignorance to the new rules, I could understand cutting him a break. If he’s one of those guys wheeling a 6-ball roller into the house, he’s most likely  aware of the wt hole ban and could have bagged it for a “legal” ball. Our leagues are small and everyone knows everyone, so even if someone had an issue with rules, it can usually be resolved at the team captain level. Certainly would be handled with our secretary if it got that far. Sucks that you basically got told to pound sand and got booted from the team to boot!

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Re: Sanction league rule
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2022, 12:22:39 AM »
If my league ever went non-sanctioned, I'd contact the "220 Avg" guy and pay him to make me one of those 20+ pound balls that he throws for fun.  ::) ;D :o

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Re: Sanction league rule
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2022, 07:38:22 AM »
We had a similar situation. One of my teammates who hasn't bowled in 5 + years was using his only bowling ball which has a nice weight hole in it. He had no clue it was illegal. He had it plugged and fixed for the following week. It really isn't that big of a deal, but I know exactly how it would have gone down had he continued to use it....

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Re: Sanction league rule
« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2022, 01:20:46 PM »
We had a similar situation. One of my teammates who hasn't bowled in 5 + years was using his only bowling ball which has a nice weight hole in it. He had no clue it was illegal. He had it plugged and fixed for the following week. It really isn't that big of a deal, but I know exactly how it would have gone down had he continued to use it....

Similar situation happened here.  The league officers simply asked the bowler to have the balance holes in his stuff plugged prior to the following week.  That didn't prevent the bowler from going absolutely nuclear about being "ratted out", but the holes were filled the following week and everything was fine.  The bowler complained that the balls rolled and felt different after plugging the balance holes, but that's a whole different issue 😆

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Re: Sanction league rule
« Reply #23 on: December 20, 2022, 01:28:32 AM »
Bowling tonight (USBC Detroit), i point out a balance hole in the other team ball, during practice, my captain is too much of a puss to call it out, so is the league secretary, which i pointed out to him 2nd game, so much for preserving rules that are in the usbc guidelines, I guess my 30$ sanction fee doesn’t mean crap

End result of last nights fiasco, i was removed from the team by the captain for making a stink of it, he said this is a beer drinking league, not the pro tour, my response, rules are rules and should be followed, the league secretary, who doesn’t bowl in the league, but works behind the counter, couldn’t care less

Go walk up the lanes and throw the ball 5 feet from the pins with a beer in your hand.  Just having fun with a beer and bowling... rules don't matter.
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Re: Sanction league rule
« Reply #24 on: December 20, 2022, 08:21:58 AM »
We had a similar situation. One of my teammates who hasn't bowled in 5 + years was using his only bowling ball which has a nice weight hole in it. He had no clue it was illegal. He had it plugged and fixed for the following week. It really isn't that big of a deal, but I know exactly how it would have gone down had he continued to use it....

Similar situation happened here.  The league officers simply asked the bowler to have the balance holes in his stuff plugged prior to the following week.  That didn't prevent the bowler from going absolutely nuclear about being "ratted out", but the holes were filled the following week and everything was fine.  The bowler complained that the balls rolled and felt different after plugging the balance holes, but that's a whole different issue 😆

I only had to have one ball filled for a hole i didn't want in the first place. I didn't notice a huge difference on how it rolls since it has been filled.   With my particular bowling style. Balance holes never served a purpose for me.  In hindsight my guess the only reason that ball had one is because the PSO messed up when he drilled that particular ball for me.  He told me the hole needed to be there to make the ball legal. Which was true based on the rules at time I originally bought the ball.

None of the other balls I ever purchased before that ball or after needed one. Hence my theory he made a mistake in drilling that particular ball for me.