Post by: J_w73 on November 21, 2009, 08:20:34 AM
Do 7 people really need to be up on the lane next to the ball return during the whole game?
What is with letting your 4 year old lay on the approach and flail their arms back and forth making dust angels. Would you let them roll all over the ground anywhere else?
Dodging little kids running in front of you on your approach to throw the ball adds a new dimension to the game. People, your daughter almost got a 16 lb ball smashed into her head at 17 mph.. maybe get a clue and don't let her run around uncontrolled.
I know I don't own the chairs and table that are designated for the lane I am bowling on but do you really have to put your drink, keys, and fries on my table while you bowl. You have a table and chairs in front of the lanes you are bowling on.
I also love the irritated look as I move a chair that is in front of the lane that I am getting ready to bowl on. I would think you would have common sense to move it yourself when you see that people are coming to bowl on the adjacent lane... nope, you have no clue.
Yes , It is a blast that you had 8 up there and the machine knocked one down and it gave you a 9.. hahahahaHAHAH.. Would you care that according to the rules you really only got 8... probably not..
Done bowling.. wow.. so much fun.. and its not over..
On the way out a little kid running around not looking runs right into me and falls down. I step over him so that I don't step on him, see he isn't even crying and keep walking as an angy mother yells , " No you didn't just step over my son?".. I turn shrug my shoulders and answer back, "control your kid".. She is lucky I was able to step over him.
fun fun fun..
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Post by: Hogsharley on November 21, 2009, 04:39:49 PM
I practice alot while others are open bowling. I understand that kids have no idea whats right and wrong on the lanes. I see them walk up on people all the time. That's ok.
I do enjoy watching the real little ones have fun but when the kids are overstepping their boundries, the parents HAVE TO step in. The kid ran into you and the parent blame you for walking over him. What did they expect you to do? Help the kid up?
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Post by: J_w73 on November 21, 2009, 04:51:37 PM
I don't mind kids having fun and enjoying bowling.. I'll be the first one high fiving them when then get a strike or spare.. I blame the parents mostly.. kids don't know any better but grown adults should have a clue.. if not about bowling etiquette atleast about etiquette in general or just general awareness for the safety of your own kid..
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Post by: mumzie on November 21, 2009, 05:15:07 PM
I went over and spoke to the parents about it - mentioned that they should keep their kid on their lanes, because she could get hurt otherwise - they said that if I touched their daughter in any way, they'd sue.
Luckily, I knew the management well - the parents were escorted out.
If you can't control 'em, don't have 'em.
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Post by: J_w73 on November 21, 2009, 05:29:02 PM
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I had a little girl walk in front of me on my approach during a practice session a few years ago. FOr some reason, I was able to stop - although I normally can't do that.
I went over and spoke to the parents about it - mentioned that they should keep their kid on their lanes, because she could get hurt otherwise - they said that if I touched their daughter in any way, they'd sue.
Luckily, I knew the management well - the parents were escorted out.
If you can't control 'em, don't have 'em.
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Amen.. don't tell anyone the right way to do things nowadays..people feel they have the right to be stupid..
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Post by: roborob676 on November 23, 2009, 04:22:39 AM
Post by: Danes07 on November 23, 2009, 07:18:46 AM
It really bothers me that a lot of parents won't even attempt to control or discipline their children. If I acted the way that I see a lot of kids act today, we would have left the bowling alley early and it would not have been fun when we got home.
The running up on me doesn't really bother me...I can focus through that. But the running around, yelling, screaming, running in front of me, ect. that bothers me. It causes disruption, its annoying and can be dangerous. I had one kid, that while I was setting up on the approach to make my spare, cut in front of me and throw his ball down my lane at my spare...so I looked over at his parents who were laughing and telling the kid how good he was and how much he must like to bowl. They looked at my and said "he just saw pins and got excited"....my first thought was, 'is he a dog?'
I've had parents get downright irritated with me when I ask their son or daughter not to throw my bowling balls. Once, I politely asked a kid not to throw my bowling ball. He picked up another ball and threw it, then walked back to his parents who gave me the stink eye and told him "that he could throw any ball that he wanted".
Why don't we make this a total rant thread....everyone share their worst experiences when open bowling.
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Post by: Neptune66 on November 23, 2009, 07:44:50 AM
Post by: dicnic on November 23, 2009, 09:29:19 PM
People like that should not be allowed to have children.
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Post by: J_w73 on November 23, 2009, 09:32:24 PM
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Don't forget, the same idiots who let their kids run all over the bowling center are the ones who let their kids run all over the mall, run and scream in resturants etc. We were in a buffet yesterday and a couple of kids were running into people who were carrying food back to their tables etc. The kids were yelling, taking food off the buffet etc. with their parents nowhere around. These kids were fat, too, no telling what kind of junk they ate.
People like that should not be allowed to have children.
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Post by: bltbyj on November 23, 2009, 10:06:15 PM
Post by: Nor Cal Bowler on November 23, 2009, 10:33:25 PM
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Jason this why you shouldn't practice in Elk Grove.
HAHA.. Amen!
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Post by: Atochabsh on November 23, 2009, 11:35:06 PM
No one ever thinks that I have the right to enjoy my paid games of bowling just as much as they do. And I enjoy my games not having to dodge their kids, watch out for their kids''s hands in the ball return or step off spilled drinks, french fries and candy. Because every parent knows now a days that the sun rises and set on their kids and that no one, nothing should ever stand between their kid and having a good time no matter how they go about it.
NEWS FLASH!!! I''m not in love with your kid!!! I don''t even like them or think they are cute!!
Except for NorCalBowler''s little girl who is really cute and perfectly behaved even when dragged to the center in the morning for certification.
The Center should give them some preliminary and basic rules of the road when sending them down to their lane. But they do not. Because most of the times, the manager is not there on the weekends and they have minimum wage kids working the desk who don''t give a c rap. Even if the manager is there, most times these situations just run wild.
Erin
Edited on 11/24/2009 0:37 AM
Post by: rico4life on November 24, 2009, 12:04:53 AM
Post by: J_w73 on November 24, 2009, 05:53:40 AM
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Jason this why you shouldn't practice in Elk Grove.
pretty much the first time I have all winter..and maybe the last
If I do go, it is usually right when they open when there are less people.
and it is hard to resist when it is right down the street from me.
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Post by: J_w73 on November 24, 2009, 06:00:18 AM
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Of course I can relate to all of these and here's a situation that I had. I was standing at the desk talking to the desk person and noticed a little girl walking down the lane and was almost at the pindeck to get her ball that had stopped. The person working the desk started to go down there and I said "Good idea I don't feel like having to dig a 5 year old girls body out of the machine." (I know I shouldn't have said anything..it was one of those days.) What I didn't know was that the guy standing at the desk waiting for change was the girls father who didn't didn't even move even when he noticed what was going on. He says "hey you don't worry about what my daughter does". I said "I'm sorry sir but her safety IS our concern." Oh btw...his wife was at our jukebox by the front checking through which songs to play and had no idea what was going on. People like that don't deserve to be parents.
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wow.. hilarious and scary (scary that they are parents)... but they can always sue when something happens to their kid that they weren't watching, put the bowling alley out of business and ruin it for everyone...which is what usually happens nowadays because there is no personal responsibility anymore. Restrict and punish the whole because a few people are idiots.
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Post by: Helsie on November 24, 2009, 06:52:24 AM
I have seen a small girl come within inches of being badly hurt after she followed a bowler up the approach behind him. Bowler was unaware and has a big back swing. It was very scary to watch. I've also had small kids come racing round corners and charging into me before. I am not an enourmous girl myself and when I'm carrying 4-6 15lb bowling balls, I am physically unable to move that quickly. It's not nice when they charge into you and make connection with something hard and start crying - it makes me feel horrible. But, it's not our fault.
HOWEVER, from my experiences, if you actually go and ask the parents nicely, they'll often make a real effort. I think it is very reasonable that we expect kids not to dive on the approaches and run around, however, with regards to them wandering over to our approaches, not giving way and 15 of them being on the approach - well, that's not rudeness, just ignorance and often if you explain or ask nicely, you won't have any problems.
Post by: dizzyfugu on November 24, 2009, 07:07:04 AM
Besides ignorance about other players' "right" to en joy their game, I think many parents (and even social bowlers) underestimate the sublime dangers of a bowling alley, from backswings through "masses in motion" to black holes with lots of mechanical parts at the ball returns.
Besides, social bowlers are always a source of fun when you have to play next to a horde of them. Played a tournament last weekend - my pair of lanes broke down, so my squad had to move next to 10 beer bowlers. Not SOOO bad, but after we asked them kindly to wait until a player on our lane (right side of them) had finished his shot and please not to crowd on the approach (we had a free lane between them and us), because we were doing "serious business" here, we almost got into a fight - how we could dare... Seems to be a real matter of (limited) perspective. Really sad - bowling etiquette (at least some BASICS!) should be penetrated much more, and IMHO this is another reason why bowling has such a hard time being regarded as a "real" sport.
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Post by: J_w73 on November 24, 2009, 07:07:15 AM
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I think we've all been there. I went for a practice on Saturday with a friend and we have similar things - flash photography, kids diving on the approach, etc, etc. Unfortunately, that is the risk you take with open bowling.
I have seen a small girl come within inches of being badly hurt after she followed a bowler up the approach behind him. Bowler was unaware and has a big back swing. It was very scary to watch. I've also had small kids come racing round corners and charging into me before. I am not an enourmous girl myself and when I'm carrying 4-6 15lb bowling balls, I am physically unable to move that quickly. It's not nice when they charge into you and make connection with something hard and start crying - it makes me feel horrible. But, it's not our fault.
HOWEVER, from my experiences, if you actually go and ask the parents nicely, they'll often make a real effort. I think it is very reasonable that we expect kids not to dive on the approaches and run around, however, with regards to them wandering over to our approaches, not giving way and 15 of them being on the approach - well, that's not rudeness, just ignorance and often if you explain or ask nicely, you won't have any problems.
I usually explain bowling etiquette to people. It is usually a coin toss whether I do it or not though and the last few times haven't been pleasant. When I asked nicely or explained in a friendly voice the people have not been receptive and pretty much wanted to fight me for suggesting they do something different than they are already doing. Sometimes I feel it just isn't worth taking the chance of getting into a situation. Most people get the hint though when I let them go first or they see me waiting until they are off the approach until I go. Some are just oblivious to any common sense though..
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Post by: dizzyfugu on November 24, 2009, 07:17:08 AM
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I usually explain bowling etiquette to people. It is usually a coin toss whether I do it or not though and the last few times haven't been pleasant. When I asked nicely or explained in a friendly voice the people have not been receptive and pretty much wanted to fight me for suggesting they do something different than they are already doing. Sometimes I feel it just isn't worth taking the chance of getting into a situation. Most people get the hint though when I let them go first or they see me waiting until they are off the approach until I go. Some are just oblivious to any common sense though..
Similar experience here - when doing training, I just try to wait until the neighboring lane is empty. But very often, social players rush - grab a ball, run onto the approach, and wait, while the pin deck has not been swept yet... no chance. And when their shot is done, and I step up onto the approach, the next one is already standing next to you...
Most of the time I really have the impression that these people just do not CARE that there are "others" around, or that these COULD have interests of their own. Lack of etiquette and result of an ego-centric society.
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Post by: Danes07 on November 24, 2009, 07:59:01 AM
They were kinda screwing around and being quite annoying, but really hadn't done much wrong and they were on the very end pair, so they were out of the way. Then one of the geniuses decided to show off for his friends and took an 8lb ball and threw it hard as he could. It hit the top of the gutter, bounced to the right, off the wall, then down the walk way leading to out behind the lanes.
One of the young guys that works there, who also bowls on my team in our mens league, walked down and asked them to stop messing around and doing that, they could damage something or hurt someone. They all kinda laughed at him and one said "Just go away, don't worry about it....we're having fun".
Well, 5 minutes later the kid did the same thing again...this time the owner of the place saw it happen and was informed that this wasn't the first time and that they had been asked to stop once before. He went over, told them all they were done bowling and to bring their shoes up to the desk. He went up to the desk and shut the lanes off....but one of them decided he was still gonna throw a shot down the lane.
Once their parents got their to collect them, he asked the parents to come inside and informed them that they are no longer welcome in the bowling alley and to please leave.
It was nice to see something be done about these kids...cause I see so many places that are afraid to do anything in fear of the reaction from the parents.
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Post by: tc300 on November 24, 2009, 08:00:09 AM
lmfao gota love open bowln!!!
Post by: tc300 on November 24, 2009, 08:05:32 AM
Post by: MelvinBrunsTrack on November 24, 2009, 08:18:56 AM
Post by: stealth on November 24, 2009, 08:27:59 AM
Post by: Danes07 on November 24, 2009, 08:57:03 AM
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I would hate to bowl next to any of you pricks
Why, because we'd like a little common courtesy and for parents to control their children? I don't think that's too much to ask for.
I never would have behaved in public the way I see kids behaving now. I don't think its too much to ask that parents keep their children under control and behaved when in public, including a bowling alley. If you can't, then leave. I understand that they are there to have, but so am I. I shouldn't have to keep a constant eye out for kids running underfoot, spilling things, getting too close to me on the approach where it becomes dangerous.
I also don't see where its so hard for parents to not get upset when they are asked politely if they can keep their kids under control or if you politely explain lane courtesy to them.
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Post by: CHawk15 on November 24, 2009, 09:18:28 AM
The only time I'll talk to the parents/ center manager is if a little kid is going to get hurt or if a bunch of spoiled brats are lofting the ball 1/2 way down the lane. I'll be nice and explain to the parents that my concern is solely for the safety of thier child. Unlike some of us that are there to get some serious practice time in, most people are just there to have a good time for a couple of hours with thier family or friends. I think that is forgotten sometimes.
As a matter of fact, I sometimes like to be put next to the rowdy crowd, it helps me work on my focus.
Post by: renaissanceman517kak on November 24, 2009, 09:22:38 AM
On a similar note, I spent most of the summer in an orthopedic boot with two broken bones in my right foot that occured while I was jogging on the local high school track. There is a sign at the entrance of the track that clearly states that nothing on wheels is allowed on the track, yet kids are on there all the time with bikes, skateboards, scooters, and the like. I broke my foot when a kid on a scooter cut right in front of me, and I had to nake a last second dance out of the way to avoid trampling her. Landed awkwardly on my foot, causing the break. Mother was right there, and though she told her daughter to be careful, she, like the mother at the bowling alley, never once addressed or acknowledged me in any way...
Post by: dizzyfugu on November 24, 2009, 09:23:24 AM
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About a year ago, my family and I decided to go do a little opening bowling. It was the day after thanksgiving, so all the high school kids had the day off. There was a group of about 10 boys and girls, about 15 years old or so.
They were kinda screwing around and being quite annoying, but really hadn't done much wrong and they were on the very end pair, so they were out of the way. Then one of the geniuses decided to show off for his friends and took an 8lb ball and threw it hard as he could. It hit the top of the gutter, bounced to the right, off the wall, then down the walk way leading to out behind the lanes.
One of the young guys that works there, who also bowls on my team in our mens league, walked down and asked them to stop messing around and doing that, they could damage something or hurt someone. They all kinda laughed at him and one said "Just go away, don't worry about it....we're having fun".
Well, 5 minutes later the kid did the same thing again...this time the owner of the place saw it happen and was informed that this wasn't the first time and that they had been asked to stop once before. He went over, told them all they were done bowling and to bring their shoes up to the desk. He went up to the desk and shut the lanes off....but one of them decided he was still gonna throw a shot down the lane.
Once their parents got their to collect them, he asked the parents to come inside and informed them that they are no longer welcome in the bowling alley and to please leave.
It was nice to see something be done about these kids...cause I see so many places that are afraid to do anything in fear of the reaction from the parents.
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Post by: tc300 on November 24, 2009, 11:26:52 AM
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I would hate to bowl next to any of you pricks
were talkn bout open play here buddy, not leagues... well unless u bowl at a amf center...
Post by: gsback on November 24, 2009, 11:48:04 AM
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were talkn bout open play here buddy, not leagues... well unless u bowl at a amf center...
Safety is safety....regardless of open leagues or not.
I worked with son on bowling etiquette since he started bowling at 4 and he does a good job of it at 10....so I can't complain as a parent of a child.
I will admit though....that after talking to teens about being courteous and the possibilty of getting hurt by running up there...I've been known to personally 'stray' to the right when I find them running up on me. Chances of them getting knocked on their butt?? Pretty good actually. After a little embarassment....it usually sinks in as to what I was referring to.
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Post by: jls on November 24, 2009, 11:50:06 AM
But I do feel it would be nice if the people who run the centers would use their heads and seperate league bowlers from moms and the kids...
It's not rocker science...
Moms and the kids start on lanes 1 & 2....
League bowlers start at the other end of the house... Say lane 32....
And then work back to the middle....
So if your a league bowler looking to practice and you get there early, you should be far apart from mom and the kids...
But NO, the centers don't do this....
Because some fat over weight mechanic might have to far to walk for a ball call.....
Which is why bowling gets another black eye.... Just like the black eye it got on last weeks TV show CSI...
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Post by: stealth on November 24, 2009, 12:02:52 PM
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I would hate to bowl next to any of you pricks
were talkn bout open play here buddy, not leagues... well unless u bowl at a amf center...
I realize that "BUDDY" and would still hate to be near you.
Post by: tc300 on November 24, 2009, 12:31:21 PM
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You really shouldn't go out shopping on Friday.....
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Post by: MelvinBrunsTrack on November 24, 2009, 12:35:25 PM
Edited on 11/24/2009 1:36 PM
Post by: tc300 on November 24, 2009, 12:37:59 PM
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I realize that "BUDDY" and would still hate to be near you.
as i would hate to be on your pair or next to you(in league).... sounds like your sayn you act like a 6yr old kid or just a NON competitive bowler whos there to get WASTED and say, "look i hit the head pin and didnt strike!!!"
should change your name to wallyno300
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Post by: renaissanceman517kak on November 24, 2009, 12:42:55 PM
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Posted: 11/24/2009 9:28 AM
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I would hate to bowl next to any of you pricks
Sounds like the parent of an unruly child, or one who has no respect for manners and common courtesy himself...
Post by: renaissanceman517kak on November 24, 2009, 12:47:02 PM
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lil black kid came down from atleast 3 pairs over...
What did his being black have to do with anything?
Post by: Danes07 on November 24, 2009, 01:26:22 PM
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"What did his being black have to do with anything?"
Because 95%+ of the time it's about guaranteed it will be one of the baggy-pants, cap on sidways, droopy-drawered, bling-wearin', swaggerin', gangster-lookin', rap-spewing, foul-mouthed, AA's that do it !!!
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Thats nice...
But where I'm from, "95%+" of those "that do it" are stuck up, preppy kids with mom and dads money and an entitlement complex.
Being an asshole is not race or gender specific.
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Post by: bltbyj on November 24, 2009, 01:33:35 PM
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"What did his being black have to do with anything?"
Because 95%+ of the time it's about guaranteed it will be one of the baggy-pants, cap on sidways, droopy-drawered, bling-wearin', swaggerin', gangster-lookin', rap-spewing, foul-mouthed, AA's that do it !!!
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I spent most of my money on bowling and women... the rest I just wasted!
Thats nice...
But where I'm from, "95%+" of those "that do it" are stuck up, preppy kids with mom and dads money and an entitlement complex.
Being an asshole is not race or gender specific.
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Post by: tc300 on November 24, 2009, 01:38:11 PM
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lil black kid came down from atleast 3 pairs over...
What did his being black have to do with anything?
ummmmmmm cause he was black....??? he wasnt mexican, italian or chinese... LOL
Post by: nospareball on November 24, 2009, 02:03:08 PM
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On the way out a little kid running around not looking runs right into me and falls down. I step over him so that I don't step on him, see he isn't even crying and keep walking as an angy mother yells , " No you didn't just step over my son?".. I turn shrug my shoulders and answer back, "control your kid".. She is lucky I was able to step over him.
Classy. Help the kid up next time, it's not going to kill you to be nice once in a while.
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Post by: J_w73 on November 24, 2009, 02:42:24 PM
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On the way out a little kid running around not looking runs right into me and falls down. I step over him so that I don't step on him, see he isn't even crying and keep walking as an angy mother yells , " No you didn't just step over my son?".. I turn shrug my shoulders and answer back, "control your kid".. She is lucky I was able to step over him.
Classy. Help the kid up next time, it's not going to kill you to be nice once in a while.
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I am nice most of the time.. this time I wasn't... and the fact that the mother came at me with attitude like I did something to her kid made sure I wasn't going to help the kid up..
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Post by: J_w73 on November 24, 2009, 02:47:00 PM
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"What did his being black have to do with anything?"
Because 95%+ of the time it's about guaranteed it will be one of the baggy-pants, cap on sidways, droopy-drawered, bling-wearin', swaggerin', gangster-lookin', rap-spewing, foul-mouthed, AA's that do it !!!
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it isn't a race thing .. it is a culture thing.. there are plenty of white, asian, and mexican kids that want to be part of that street culture where the dumber you look , talk , and act the cooler you are. Or think you are.
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Post by: BrianCRX90 on November 24, 2009, 03:56:34 PM
I have ran into this very problem. I bowl in 2-3 leagues a year at the same house and Brunswick gives me free games for acomplishments in league.
It has become IMPOSSIBLE to practice at this alley. They have either leagues nonstop that usually fill up 90% of the 40 lane alley if not all of it anytime at night. In the day it's not any better. Even during the week in the day there is "senior league", or "housewife league" that take up lanes. The rest of the lanes are filled with rude open play bowlers or kids that have no supervision. Teenagers smoking, cussing and won't shut up. People that never heard of lane courtesy and if you get near some of them they stare you down like you are invading their space. Well I'm done with it and been done with it. No one is going to prevent me from following the rules of the alley even though the alley doesn't care. I used to go on the weekends but there is so many people bowling from leagues, open play and then worse birthday parties. The stupid birthday parties is what is wrong with bowling and they take up 15 lanes that only have 2 or 3 bratty kids on each lane. The kids don't even care what they are doing or hitting. Put up some bumpers, loud annoying music, glow lights, disco balls, spinning colored lights and cameras they don't care. It's worse then Chuck E. Cheese. Sometimes I will take a day off to go to this alley on a Thursday morning and the lanes are nearly filled with a daycare or something else like a mentally disabled crowd. I'm sick of bowling in this enviorment so I have to usually find an other alley across town that doesn't have all that garbage and pay more money per game.
What's the incentive of getting free games if you can't use them in a decent bowler's enviorment?
Post by: nutsforbowling on November 24, 2009, 07:05:18 PM
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Post by: SegaMan73 on November 24, 2009, 11:11:33 PM
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lil black kid came down from atleast 3 pairs over...
What did his being black have to do with anything?
ummmmmmm cause he was black....??? he wasnt mexican, italian or chinese... LOL
The point is that out of ALL the stories that were told here, you are the only one who mentioned someones race. Out of ALL the stories here, I''ll bet you that it''s not 95% black! I''ve had these things happened to me all the time and they were black, hispanic and white.
For me, if you''re not on my lane, I don''t care what people do. Lane courtesy is not not an offense to me, they just don''t know bowling etiquette. I PAID for the lane all the way to the pins and if anyone violates that space more than once we have a problem! That is of course after I explained what you can and can''t do like walking on my lane,throwing a ball at my pins and DO NOT TOUCH MY BALLS!
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Post by: SegaMan73 on November 24, 2009, 11:36:46 PM
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"What did his being black have to do with anything?"
Because 95%+ of the time it''''s about guaranteed it will be one of the baggy-pants, cap on sidways, droopy-drawered, bling-wearin'''', swaggerin'''', gangster-lookin'''', rap-spewing, foul-mouthed, AA''''s that do it !!!
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Post by: David Lee Yskes on November 24, 2009, 11:44:00 PM
But yes, All of those stories are why i dont like open bowling yes, its alot of the business the bowling alley gets but it sucks........
On the other hand i just hate practicing lol......
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Post by: SVstar34 on November 24, 2009, 11:54:17 PM
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Post by: Danes07 on November 25, 2009, 04:36:13 AM
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Ive gone through all this so many times. I like going on Saturdays when I have free time to practice and i'm so used to it that I can block out almost everything while im trying to make my shots. I went last Saturday and got put next to a couple and their two kids and it was one of the easiest times ive had open bowling on a Saturday, the parents had respect and made sure their kids had respect as well which was nice to see for a change.
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I've also run into this quite a bit, and it makes for a very enjoyable time...even if everything around you is terrible, if the people on the lane next to you are polite and respectful.
Over the summer, I was out practicing with my family and the people on the lane next to us were perfect. Mom, dad and two kids...very polite, friendly, talkative. First time a kid ran up on me, dad pulled him back after his shot, and didn't yell at him, but explained lane courtesy to him...kidn ever did it again.
Those kids loved sitting there watching me throw strike after strike...their eyes kept getting bigger. Made me feel kinda good to know that I waa helping make it a memorable experience for the kids. I made one kids day when I gave him a hi-five after he made a spare.
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Post by: jls on November 25, 2009, 09:56:46 AM
Bowling today for many "non League" bowlers is all about having fun...
Most of the parents may not be league bowlers...So therefore they don''t know that you are supposed to wait for the "joe pro" 3 lanes over...
Now this may come as a shock to you league bowlers....
But these bowlers generally PAY more then you do....
They seldom ever complain that the lanes are too dry or have too much oil, etc etc etc....
And these are indeed the bowlers the owners of centers LOVE.....
Now once again...
Anyone with some commonsense knows that TODAY, saturday is kiddy day...
So if you go to the center to bowl..On a saturday...
Put up with it....
Or do what we do....
Show up with 15-20 "league bowlers" and get lanes at the other end of the house.......Manager usually will have no problem doing this...
And let the kids and moms have some fun....
and
lighten up already
Cracks me up to hear some of you knock how the little kids behave...
Have you seen how "league bowlers" behave................
Kicking racks, throwing or bouncing balls, giving the ten pin the official PBA salute while standing at the foul line after still another SOFT 10 pin...
Give me a break, and give the little kids a break.
Cause their the future for bowling.
just in case you wanted to know
now
are we clear
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Post by: gsback on November 25, 2009, 02:34:45 PM
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giving the ten pin the official PBA salute while standing at the foul line after still another SOFT 10 pin...
aka The Walter Ray 10 Pin?
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Post by: jls on November 25, 2009, 03:10:53 PM
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Hey JLS giving that 10 pin the bird keeps my road rage in check...
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Now is it all those 10 pins, or is your road rage cause by the fact that you appear to be a Bears Fan....
Not to worry, they still have the Rams and the Lions to play...
So that 6-10 season, should be a lock.....
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Post by: looseleftie on November 29, 2009, 03:46:35 AM
Parents and kids do not now any bettr, at least when it comes to lane courtesy. Centres do not inform them, or at least mine doesn't.
However, their kids running over other lanes, or behind bowlers, or running down the lanes... OMG!! Parents are trying to hard to be their kids friends these days, and forgetting that these kids need parents firstly, and clear boundaries of what is acceptable behaviour ....Society has gone down the gurgler.. Its all about "my" kids, and that they can do whatever they want for amusement regardless..
My kids are great when I take them bowling (yes I'm a league bowler that helps), but my kids are great when we go shopping, and when we go to a restaurant, or when we go anywhere in public... Its because my wife and I are responsible parents. We make the time to instill a fair set of values that we have, and expect our kids to demonstrate the same values through their behaviour... Its not rocket science, it just takes time and patience.. This should be mandatory for all parents.
When we play mini golf, my kids now how to act, and I'm there watching over them..Thry're not taking anyone elses turn or being pains in the proverbial. Imagine some of these parents and kids on a golf course. Their sh*t would not be tolerated.. Sadly bowling managers are rarely there on weekends. You have counter staff who are not interested, and lack the initiative to act professionally.. One poster mentioned that their are anouncements over the PA at his centre. Great idea... Parents must be made aware that their precious little child does NOT have the right to ruin someone elses bowling experience... That would require good parenting...
The number of times I have seen little kids mucking around, with parents simply oblivious to this, or not caring as they suck down another Bourboun is amazing..These families as another poster stated earlier, are the same running nuts in malls and restaurants... Gee, I'd love to see these kids when they hit 14 and 15 yr, and say "I told u so" to their parents...
Parents reep what they sow...
Everynow and then u meet a great family on the lanes, and that is encouraging. Too few and far between..
Our centre manager needs to take more responsibility for their customers. Or train up your staff so they can better handle situations on the weekend.
Take care
LL
Post by: DON DRAPER on November 29, 2009, 08:43:07 AM