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bowler100

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School me on the Brunswick Danger Zone HPH
« on: November 21, 2018, 06:14:10 PM »
Has anyone thrown one of these in the past or at least know something about it? What was the reaction like? I had a gentleman give me a used one for free (he said he liked his) and I figured that I might give it a try. As I gave the ball to my pro shop operator for a plug and redrill, he commented that he thought the ball is a complete P.O.S. Is it really that bad?

 

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Re: School me on the Brunswick Danger Zone HPH
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2018, 09:31:02 AM »
 No schooling on the ball here, but a little advice.

 DO NOT make your mind up by hearing others opinions. Some balls are great for some, and terrible for others.

 The Storm El Niño Gold was one of Storms releases that most people just raved about, but I hated mine so bad that I sold my other Storm ball, and GAVE the El Niño Gold to the guy who bought the Bolt from me.

 The H.P.H. is a good ball. It has/had a reputation as a very high maintenance ball that picked up lots of oil, and needed de-oiling and regular surface maintenance, but you should expect that with any older particle ball.

It may fit your needs, and it may not. Not every ball is for every bowler.
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Re: School me on the Brunswick Danger Zone HPH
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2018, 12:22:24 PM »
An interesting ball and one that I liked very much back in the day.
If I recall, it is a solid particle with a high rg, high diff core which could really pick up in the midlane.  Could still be decent on short patterns or crispy back ends but will look very pukey by today's standards on longer oil.
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bowler100

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Re: School me on the Brunswick Danger Zone HPH
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2018, 02:48:17 PM »
An interesting ball and one that I liked very much back in the day.
If I recall, it is a solid particle with a high rg, high diff core which could really pick up in the midlane.  Could still be decent on short patterns or crispy back ends but will look very pukey by today's standards on longer oil.
Sounds like it has that Danger Zone hook/set reaction with a significantly earlier roll and less angularity due to the particle. That is exactly the reaction I am looking for. Combining a short hook window with early traction will result a pukey look (Ebonite Riptide, I am looking at you) like you said. At the same time, I have a higher axis rotation so it would work in my favor on wet/dry house conditions.

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Re: School me on the Brunswick Danger Zone HPH
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2018, 02:58:02 PM »
Brunswick put out the best high particle load balls during that era.   I had great success with some of them.  However I don't think   they match up with the newer oils all that well. 
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bowler100

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Re: School me on the Brunswick Danger Zone HPH
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2018, 03:10:42 PM »
Brunswick put out the best high particle load balls during that era.   I had great success with some of them.  However I don't think   they match up all that well with the newer oils all that well.
For the most part, you are absolutely right with them not match up on today's conditions. The Pro Zone Azure is amazing riding the gutter on heavier sport patterns 40 feet or shorter but SUCKS on longer oil.

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Re: School me on the Brunswick Danger Zone HPH
« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2018, 11:40:33 AM »
The HPH was a great oiler for me back in the day. It did have a high RG core (2.60), but with a very aggressive, high load particle coverstock. I was often able to play quite deep on long patterns with in and still get good back end "pop" with it. Unfortunately, my HPH died an early death, as did most of my particle coverstocks back then despite attempts at resurfacing, rejuvenating, etc. They were never the same after a while. I also doubt that the HPH could compete on today's lane oils, even if you were lucky enough to find one that is new.

As an example, I also had great success with Brunswick's original Danger Zone when it first came out. Although not a particle ball, it still could not come close to performing for me when I threw it last year. It skated like a dart. A lot of it depends on the bolwer's release. Power players will usually have more success with vintage balls like the HPH than will lower rev players. 

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Re: School me on the Brunswick Danger Zone HPH
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2018, 11:17:32 AM »
It's made in Mexico. You can way better with the bowling balls made in the USA.
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Re: School me on the Brunswick Danger Zone HPH
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2018, 01:01:29 PM »
HPH was about 4 years before the move to Mexico, but whatever.... #MAGA I guess.

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Re: School me on the Brunswick Danger Zone HPH
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2018, 01:20:53 PM »
HPH was about 4 years before the move to Mexico, but whatever.... #MAGA I guess.

Hush up with your facts.

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Re: School me on the Brunswick Danger Zone HPH
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2018, 01:57:23 PM »
Alternative Facts, lol

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Re: School me on the Brunswick Danger Zone HPH
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2018, 02:24:38 PM »
HPH was about 4 years before the move to Mexico, but whatever.... #MAGA I guess.

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Re: School me on the Brunswick Danger Zone HPH
« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2018, 03:57:24 PM »
It's made in Mexico. You can way better with the bowling balls made in the USA.
Cool story, bro.

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Re: School me on the Brunswick Danger Zone HPH
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2018, 04:12:03 PM »
I had a Danger Zone HPD and Danger Zone 2 back in the day, but my buddy who is a lefty had a Danger Zone HPH for oil.  We used to give our bowling balls nicknames and we would call the HPH the "High Priced Ho".  Why did we call the HPH a "whore"?...  Because every time he threw it, he felt like he was getting "f@cked".  LOL.   That P.O.S. ball would not hook in oil at all.  And the DZ2 was no better, even on the dry.

I couldn't sell my DZ2 fast enough.  And my buddy hated the HPH in the end.  He never purchased another Brunswick ball after that.  LOL.

The HPD was money for me though.  One of my favorite all time Big B balls.  Word of advice from someone who saw the HPH in action in league every week, don't buy it.  If you do, then you'll understand why we gave it that nickname.  LOL.   ;) :D

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Re: School me on the Brunswick Danger Zone HPH
« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2018, 09:03:23 AM »
It is a high load particle ball I think came out in late 1990s.  I think it is a spinoff of the Quantum line with the higher RG core.  They were known for dying pretty quick.

These were out the same time at the Attitude balls with the Quantum core -- these are all pre-Inferno era.