Author Topic: Scotch brite pads (Read 32445 times)

justinmill14 · « **on:** June 05, 2009, 02:21:06 PM »

Does anyone have much experience with using these? I figured I would try these out for resurfacing my bowling balls on the spinner since they are fairly cheap. Heres the info I have found so far
The pads are color coded:
White 1000 grit
Light grey 600-800 grit
Green 500-600 grit
Maroon 320-400grit
Brown 280-320 grit
Dark grey 180-220 grit
Tan 120-150 grit

Now I know this may sound stupid but does anyone have a picture of the gray and light gray pads, because I can not find one anywhere and would like to know how much of a difference there is between the two as far as color goes. That way I can purchase the right one and don't use the wrong grit.

J_Mac · « **Reply #16 on:** June 06, 2009, 07:22:15 PM »

A little off topic perhaps, but I look forward to the new Micro finishing pads that Brunswick has started to use in their factory.

People have reported that the Valentino sanding pads are lasting longer than abralon, and word is that the ones from Big B will last longer as well.

justinmill14 · « **Reply #17 on:** June 06, 2009, 08:26:27 PM »

Right now all I have is the burgandy and the like gray, I just finished my ball spinner today so figured I would try it out on an old ball. Used the burgandy on it and after I was done there was a lot of white powder type stuff on the pad (obviously from sanding the ball)

I was just wondering if its okay to just rinse that off of the pad with water? Will the pad be good to go after that?

I also found out that the white pad is around 2000 grit. Atleast thats what someone from buddies pro shop told me.

Edited on 6/6/2009 8:29 PM

azguy · « **Reply #18 on:** June 06, 2009, 08:33:59 PM »

JW, I found the SB pads wear fast. Maybe I put to much pressure, but soon they are smooth no matter what grit I start with.

AB Pads last longer for me but I use a CAB, small side and only 1/3 of the pad at a time. Water flowing to keep the particles washed away. If you say a 2000 shines more than a 4000, then I'd have a guess that you are not using enough water or moving the pad enough, but, I've not seen how you use them ...just a guess.

For me, the shortest lasting is a 4000, 2000 then a 1000 AB Pad. The 180's will last a very long time as long as you use enough water. I have seen videos from Innovative, I think, where they use them dry. Not my way but just goes to show, there's more than one way to skin a cat.

Very seldom do I ever use anything over 1000, to much oil here for mush higher. I will use the 2000 and 4000 pads once they are shot, to clean with or turn the pad over and polish with the sponge side if I use polish on any ball.

If you are saying your SB pads will give you the same grit for how many balls ? You are only getting the AB pad grit on 5 or 6 balls ? My guess would be you need to clean the pads with a small scrub brush to get the particles out of the weave, again, just a guess.

As for me and SB pads, they will wear hole in the area I work with, I adjust and will wear a hole again, that's what I don't use them much but to clean with.

Again, all my observations are a guess as I don't know how you use one or the other. The pads , IMO, are like cars, some like one brand some like another. What ever you feels works best for you is the right one for you.
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los2003 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 06, 2009, 08:49:24 PM »

The Valentino ones do last longer but always seem to be backordered.. atleast on the site.. I have found sandpaper with a sponge or something kind of sofft behind works as well as abralon pads and is a fraction of the cost..

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A little off topic perhaps, but I look forward to the new Micro finishing pads that Brunswick has started to use in their factory.

People have reported that the Valentino sanding pads are lasting longer than abralon, and word is that the ones from Big B will last longer as well.

charlest · « **Reply #20 on:** June 06, 2009, 08:57:51 PM »

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Right now all I have is the burgandy and the like gray, I just finished my ball spinner today so figured I would try it out on an old ball. Used the burgandy on it and after I was done there was a lot of white powder type stuff on the pad (obviously from sanding the ball)

I was just wondering if its okay to just rinse that off of the pad with water? Will the pad be good to go after that?

You shouldn't see "white stuff". You should see just a gray or colored slurry. I bet you did a no-no. I bet you didn't use water as a lubricant and to keep the resin dust from being sucked into your lungs!!

Yes, an old toothbrush or similar used, old household brush and running water should have that pad good to go in 10 or 15 seconds work.

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I also found out that the white pad is around 2000 grit. Atleast thats what someone from buddies pro shop told me.

Edited on 6/6/2009 8:29 PM

The white Scotch-Brite pad uses talc as the abrasive. It is one of the softest abrasives known. It does not do very much to something as hard as resin, since resin is harder than talc. (Talc, as in talcum powder.)
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ccrider · « **Reply #21 on:** June 06, 2009, 09:55:55 PM »

The assorted hook and loop from supergrit last a long time and is easy to clean. My only problem is figuring the abralon equivalents.

I have use abralon from 180 up but I am never confident as to when to throw the abralon away. For that reason I moving away from abralon.

CC

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The only problem I saw with using sand paper, is the fact that it is so thin

Not this stuff.... http://www.supergrit.com/products/products_sheets-brownredao.asp#red

Very thick paper, lasts a long time and easy to keep clean.
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ccrider · « **Reply #22 on:** June 06, 2009, 10:08:20 PM »

^^^^^^^same here. the sandpaper is much cheaper and actually faster.

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azguy · « **Reply #24 on:** June 07, 2009, 09:55:43 AM »

I use a sponge backing on my paper, folded over the sponge. I soak the sponge and paper before use and after cleaning them. I also spray water as I sand. Might be over kill but IMO you can never use to much water.

(well to a point but you get the idea)
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charlest · « **Reply #25 on:** June 07, 2009, 12:51:54 PM »

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You shouldn't see "white stuff". You should see just a gray or colored slurry. I bet you did a no-no. I bet you didn't use water as a lubricant and to keep the resin dust from being sucked into your lungs!!

Yes, an old toothbrush or similar used, old household brush and running water should have that pad good to go in 10 or 15 seconds work.

I used water, but maybe not enough? Is it better to spray the water straight on the ball or onto the pad when I am sanding?

Spray the ball and soak the pad, so neither of them is ever close to being dry. Both should be kept wet with the sprayer.
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Edited on 6/7/2009 12:53 PM

JessN16 · « **Reply #26 on:** June 07, 2009, 11:55:48 PM »

charlest (and others),

I found a great accessory to have is one of those trays that you use when painting a room with a paint roller. They're square or rectangular with a sloped bottom. I fill the basin portion up with water and soak whatever I'm using -- sandpaper, Abralon, ScotchBrite -- completely through.

It may be a little messy on the ball itself (I've got my spinner in a tub that keeps the slung-off water and slurry from flying around the room), but it works well, cuts down on score marks on the ball (as in, I don't have any) and tends to keep Abralon, especially, usable for longer.

The other thing about those paint trays is that the sloped part has ridges in it. The ridges are there to knock excess paint off the roller, but in this application, you use them as a place to knock slurry off the surface of your pads (sandpaper tends to build up slurry debris quickly).

Jess

Edited on 6/7/2009 11:56 PM

mastergunner · « **Reply #27 on:** June 08, 2009, 09:24:01 AM »

Who sells all of the different colors of scotchbrite pads at the best cost?

leftyinsnellville · « **Reply #28 on:** June 08, 2009, 09:40:50 AM »

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(I've got my spinner in a tub that keeps the slung-off water and slurry from flying around the room)

Tub? I don' need no steenkin' tub!

I like to use my spinner without leaning into a tub...kinda hard on the ol' back. Though my wife bitches about the horizontal stripe across the middle of all my t-shirts!

Edited on 6/8/2009 9:41 AM

azguy · « **Reply #29 on:** June 08, 2009, 09:47:12 AM »

Jess, I use a small bucket that had dry wall joint compound, have several since we redid the shop, and a small nail brush from wal mart to scrub off the excess. I like the small brush because I go different directions and get all the excess off the pad and paper. Easy, cheap and works.

Nice thing about the bucket, easy to refill, dump and they stack. If you have a problem with what to do with wet pads or paper, find a computer desk that has a plastic disk holder in it. Lay them across a small plastic pan, the pads will set in the slots, the paper can be folded to hang dry as well.
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J_w73 · « **Reply #30 on:** June 08, 2009, 12:07:19 PM »

this place seemed like it was the best place to get all the different model numbers at a decent price...

http://metalworking.mscdirect.com/industrial-catalog.html

The next best thing would be to go to a local automotive body shop supply / pain store and see if they have them or can order them for you.

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