Author Topic: Scribing the layout on a ball (Read 19471 times)

leenhouston · « **on:** August 03, 2012, 06:13:03 AM »

Would someone please explain the logic of scribing a layout into the surface of the ball, other than "it is easier to replicate the layout". I see no purpose to it other than to mess up the appearance of a ball and if it is ever re-drilled, the original scribe is now a nuisance, not help and quite frankly, any decent ball driller should be able to easily replicate a layout without having lines to copy.

I like to try new equipment so I pick up a lot of used equipment and plug and drill it myself so that I can save some money. Quite frankly, I will typically pass on a ball that is scribed.

I know it doesn't affect performance but it is a trend I would like to see go away.

If I'm missing something here, please tell me.

Gizmo823 · « **Reply #31 on:** February 15, 2014, 05:16:25 PM »

I've got to agree here. I have no doubts most people here can feel even up to 1/32, but your average customer is a different animal. And where is this implied attitude? Making a statement that the average customer can't feel a difference of 1/16 has nothing to do with his integrity or work, it's a simple statement of fact, not a reflection on his work practices. If he would have followed the statement up by saying, "and since they can't feel it I don't worry too much about being super accurate," then you would have a point. Everybody likes to complain about me bitching about stuff, but there are so many people that go so far out of their way on this site to start an argument or get pissy that it's insane.

Quote from: itsallaboutme on February 15, 2014, 07:47:20 AM

Northface, trust me, you can't do much better than having me behind the press drilling you a ball.

All the guys on this site think they are the typical pro shop customer. There are way more times when a new customer comes into the shop with 3 balls, all three are different and they have no idea they are different, than a guy coming in with 3 the same.

Mike Austin · « **Reply #32 on:** February 15, 2014, 08:13:31 PM »

Gizmo, you contradicted yourself.

" I have no doubts most people here can feel even up to 1/32"

Aren't most people here average? There sure aren't many tour players here, so that makes MOST of the people regular average joes that bowl and love bowling.

"but your average customer is a different animal"

Why? The average customer deserves and gets the best possible service which includes the most precise drilling possible. (My previous shop was named my Precision Pro Shop)

The attitude came from allaboutme statement, that most people can't feel a 1/16 and his tone was why bother??

Quote from: Gizmo823 on February 15, 2014, 05:16:25 PM

I've got to agree here. I have no doubts most people here can feel even up to 1/32, but your average customer is a different animal. And where is this implied attitude? Making a statement that the average customer can't feel a difference of 1/16 has nothing to do with his integrity or work, it's a simple statement of fact, not a reflection on his work practices. If he would have followed the statement up by saying, "and since they can't feel it I don't worry too much about being super accurate," then you would have a point. Everybody likes to complain about me bitching about stuff, but there are so many people that go so far out of their way on this site to start an argument or get pissy that it's insane.

Quote from: itsallaboutme on February 15, 2014, 07:47:20 AM
Northface, trust me, you can't do much better than having me behind the press drilling you a ball.

All the guys on this site think they are the typical pro shop customer. There are way more times when a new customer comes into the shop with 3 balls, all three are different and they have no idea they are different, than a guy coming in with 3 the same.

itsallaboutme · « **Reply #33 on:** February 15, 2014, 08:25:54 PM »

In going back and reading what I wrote, the "why bother" attitude is there, but that wasn't how it was meant. But I stand by my assessment of people's feel or lack there of.

northface28 · « **Reply #34 on:** February 15, 2014, 08:44:28 PM »

Quote from: Mike Austin on February 15, 2014, 08:13:31 PM

Gizmo, you contradicted yourself.

" I have no doubts most people here can feel even up to 1/32"

Aren't most people here average? There sure aren't many tour players here, so that makes MOST of the people regular average joes that bowl and love bowling.

"but your average customer is a different animal"

Why? The average customer deserves and gets the best possible service which includes the most precise drilling possible. (My previous shop was named my Precision Pro Shop)

The attitude came from allaboutme statement, that most people can't feel a 1/16 and his tone was why bother??

Quote from: Gizmo823 on February 15, 2014, 05:16:25 PM
I've got to agree here. I have no doubts most people here can feel even up to 1/32, but your average customer is a different animal. And where is this implied attitude? Making a statement that the average customer can't feel a difference of 1/16 has nothing to do with his integrity or work, it's a simple statement of fact, not a reflection on his work practices. If he would have followed the statement up by saying, "and since they can't feel it I don't worry too much about being super accurate," then you would have a point. Everybody likes to complain about me bitching about stuff, but there are so many people that go so far out of their way on this site to start an argument or get pissy that it's insane.

Quote from: itsallaboutme on February 15, 2014, 07:47:20 AM
Northface, trust me, you can't do much better than having me behind the press drilling you a ball.

All the guys on this site think they are the typical pro shop customer. There are way more times when a new customer comes into the shop with 3 balls, all three are different and they have no idea they are different, than a guy coming in with 3 the same.

Don't bother with Gizmo, he's the biggest windbag to grace this site in sometime, and I've been here over a decade.

Mike Austin · « **Reply #35 on:** February 15, 2014, 08:47:28 PM »

Quote from: itsallaboutme on February 15, 2014, 08:25:54 PM

In going back and reading what I wrote, the "why bother" attitude is there, but that wasn't how it was meant. But I stand by my assessment of people's feel or lack there of.

I agree with you, the majority of customers just bowl with it, no matter how bad it is, some don't even know it's bad. But, that's how I earn return business, give them the best customer service possible, show them what I can do for them, and why their balls feel and release the way they do. When I'm done, they are usually very happy, and glad they found me. Unfortunately, there are not many good pro shops in the Houston area, but I own two of 'em!!

northface28 · « **Reply #36 on:** February 15, 2014, 08:53:27 PM »

Quote from: itsallaboutme on February 15, 2014, 08:25:54 PM

In going back and reading what I wrote, the "why bother" attitude is there, but that wasn't how it was meant. But I stand by my assessment of people's feel or lack there of.

No harm, no foul. The overture of your post exuded arrogance and "why bother" tone, that's why I was put off.

Author Topic: Scribing the layout on a ball (Read 19471 times)

leenhouston

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northface28

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